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Actually, Prime FE Cliff did get a U.S. Release at Toys R Us, considering I bought mine after unexpectedly finding it at said toy store.

I know others have already said this, But I managed to luck out and find First Edition Cliffjumper at Toys R Us a couple of years back.

Slashercon wrote:I know others have already said this, But I managed to luck out and find First Edition Cliffjumper at Toys R Us a couple of years back.

Yeah, apparently everyone and their dog managed to get him at retail

I also saw first edition cliffjumper in retail and I passed. The only one I bought from that line was Vechicon and I have never transformed him back to car mode again. Way too complex.

Rated X wrote:I also saw first edition cliffjumper in retail and I passed. The only one I bought from that line was Vechicon and I have never transformed him back to car mode again. Way too complex.

Really? which one? I've heard the non fe version is better, but I never thought that it would be overly complicated

And not a single mention of G1.5 was made ... again ...

Burn wrote:And not a single mention of G1.5 was made ... again ...

He mentioned Thunder Clash and the Predators.

Mentions mean nothing to me. This is just ANOTHER example of Va'al and his cronies blatantly excluding the awesomeness of Stalker just to spite me.

Rated X wrote:I also saw first edition cliffjumper in retail and I passed. The only one I bought from that line was Vechicon and I have never transformed him back to car mode again. Way too complex.

The first edition fogures wer ewqy better than the normal prime figure representations they were way more show accurate and quite worth getting

Bakudora. . .

Starsaber468 wrote:

Rated X wrote:I also saw first edition cliffjumper in retail and I passed. The only one I bought from that line was Vechicon and I have never transformed him back to car mode again. Way too complex.

The first edition fogures wer ewqy better than the normal prime figure representations they were way more show accurate and quite worth getting

I'd say the "mainline" (PRiD subline) has the better Arcee and Vehicon figures, but everyone else is pretty much 10 times better in First Edition.

carytheone wrote:Its already been said, but I found FE Cliffy at my local TRU. At one point they had the FE, Terrorcon and the GDO version on pegs next to each other. I'm glad to see Prime Breakdown in the honorable mentions. I'd add Air Vehicon as well. Two bots I hope to get one day.

I just hot my Jet Vehicon last week - great figure!

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Rated X wrote:I also saw first edition cliffjumper in retail and I passed. The only one I bought from that line was Vechicon and I have never transformed him back to car mode again. Way too complex.

Really? which one? I've heard the non fe version is better, but I never thought that it would be overly complicated

The one I have is the first edition. And it is extremely over complicated. Transforming it is no fun almost on a DOTM mixmaster level. I havent seen the car mode since I ripped it out the package. Never got the other version though. I just wanted the fancy version to incorporate into my classics collection as a generic decepticon.

Ultra Magnus - the one on the right is currently on sale in the UK at £5.99 (about $8)
Victory toys - 4 of the set where released in the UK & I had the tank
Overlord - had a look at his box lots of times back in 1990, quite a few in stock in UK stores in the gold box.

Ironhidensh wrote:It's hard for me to care about a figure that wasn't released in the US since that means he probably doesn't appear in TV or comic books.

Prime Breakdown is one exception

LOST Cybertronian wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:It's hard for me to care about a figure that wasn't released in the US since that means he probably doesn't appear in TV or comic books.

Prime Breakdown is one exception

Prime Unicron was in the show too right? And the US didnt get this toy either.

And people probably dont care but there are 2 toys representing Megatron when he is posessed by Unicron and neither made it to the US:






Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Cyberverse Unicron Megatron Gallery

You know guys, I was thinking, and since I am hoping these lists will be viewed years down the line, I feel it's best that they can be improved on if need be. Since this list was about a country I don't actually dwell with and was more about facts than opinions, I don't mind improving it a bit. So I added to the 4th entry for it to encompass the Prime toys the states didn't get, which actually happen through 4 lines (Beast Hunters Cyberverse, Arms Micron, Construct-bots and the upscaled Legions). While it's too bad some G1 toys were kept to certain georgraphic regions, you would think that today's business practices would have evolved with both Takara and Hasbro being more in sync on some obvious stuff (like Breakdown!), but this showed that it was clearly not the case.

So here is the improved list thanks for all your help!

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/top-5-transformer-toys-sold-at-retail-but-not-in-the-us/33481/

breakdown wins this one easily. i was pissed. what about combiner wars groove?

I figured it had been said enough, and didn't have any plans to comment again on it myself... but since you ended up feeling the need to update #4 after all, how can it still say, "The First Edition figures like Transformer Prime First Edition Cliffjumper were available worldwide aside from the US, who instead only had the less accurate and less detailed Robots in Disguise subline toys in store," after the plethora of people who have commented with evidence to the contrary? Yes, you do go on to say, "Muuuuch later, it seems every toy found it's way to Toysrus though not every location got them and there were not too many to go around." But saying that loophole still allows the inclusion of that toy on the list seems rather silly.

If it was sold at U.S. retail, even if its release was delayed and a bit limited, it shouldn't be on a list titled, "Top 5 Transformer toys sold at retail but NOT in the US." Doesn't seem much room for grey area there.

griftimus prime wrote:breakdown wins this one easily. i was pissed. what about combiner wars groove?

Well Hasbro said "we'll see" so while we can write about it here, I wouldnt feel comfortable putting it on the list.

Yotsuyasan wrote:I figured it had been said enough, and didn't have any plans to comment again on it myself... but since you ended up feeling the need to update #4 after all, how can it still say, "The First Edition figures like Transformer Prime First Edition Cliffjumper were available worldwide aside from the US, who instead only had the less accurate and less detailed Robots in Disguise subline toys in store," after the plethora of people who have commented with evidence to the contrary? Yes, you do go on to say, "Muuuuch later, it seems every toy found it's way to Toysrus though not every location got them and there were not too many to go around." But saying that loophole still allows the inclusion of that toy on the list seems rather silly.

If it was sold at U.S. retail, even if its release was delayed and a bit limited, it shouldn't be on a list titled, "Top 5 Transformer toys sold at retail but NOT in the US." Doesn't seem much room for grey area there.

Well these lists serve as reference so I found it fun to discuss the history of this line and how it started really bad for the states compared to the entire world and it was an indication of things to come. I found it pretty important to point out in an article about the states not getting toys, how they didnt get these figures at first which were for a main show. I still cant wrap my mind about how Hasbro decided to distribute everywhere else instead of the country they are based in. So I feel this is the best place to talk about it. It's not a loophole, just a quick history lesson. And I dont think it should be ignored. I want it to be remembered, because it sure as hell isnt fun to have everyone else get these fun toys at retail when you don't. If ever Canada does get Generations Arcee, for instance, I wont automatically forgive Hasbro for having taken so long to distribute it. And it sucks (for Arcee and all those first edition prime toys) that so many fans are left buying them for a premium not knowing when, if ever, these would be available in retail.

Sorry if you find it silly, I found it important in a list about the woes of distribution.

Oh and another little reason I kept it is because I wanted the comments in this thread to stay relevant to whoever reads them whenever they end up reading this. Now those comments become a celebration of having found some toys that were thought to never come out Everything stays relevant while the content is improved.

Can confirm that Canada at least had a couple of First Edition Cliffjumpers.




Regret not getting it or any other version of the mold.

When I was younger, living at home without the responsibilities of "adult" life, I went on a tear tracking down as many G1 Asian exclusives as possible before my window of opportunity closed. Even though I was able to score a Grand Maximus during that time, Overlord is without a doubt the crown jewel of that search. He defies categorization, being a Godmaster, A Duocon, a city-former, and a triple-changer all in one. Today, if I had to choose, I'd love to get the deluxe DOTM Leadfoot Hasbro yanked here right before US release, but the scalper prices are just too outrageous for a figure not even 10 years old.

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:Can confirm that Canada at least had a couple of First Edition Cliffjumpers.

Regret not getting it or any other version of the mold.

Yup and he was still available in retail as of last year when I picked him up at Archambault (along with first edition starscream and bumblebee) thanks to a tip from kanrabat.