The Energon Pub

News Credits: 25 · by **Ironhidensh** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 12:36 pm

Ironhide did eventually grow on me. Inferno still hasnt, and I'll let you know about grapple in a couple hours.

News Credits: 23 · by **Bumblebee21** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 3:19 pm

Ironhidensh wrote:Ironhide did eventually grow on me. Inferno still hasnt, and I'll let you know about grapple in a couple hours.

plz do

News Credits: 25 · by **Ironhidensh** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 3:25 pm

On today's episode of "Ironhidensh makes no goddamn sense at all", I still hate Inferno, but I'm really digging on Grapple. Not sure why, but there you go.

News Credits: 4838 · by **william-james88** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 3:38 pm

Ironhidensh wrote:On today's episode of "Ironhidensh makes no goddamn sense at all", I still hate Inferno, but I'm really digging on Grapple. Not sure why, but there you go.

I am surprised you spent the big bucks to get these two. They are just too much for me (as was Magnus).

News Credits: 25 · by **Ironhidensh** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 5:03 pm

I only got Inferno after reading positive review after positive review. I figured that many people couldn't be wrong. What I've come to realize, is that most of those (most, not all) reviews come from people who are not very big fans of the 3rd party market. Ignoring the superior 3rd party offerings, Inferno is amazing. Its all perspective.

With Grapple, I preordered when they first became available, just in case, and decided to stick with it. I've heard MMC's Grapple didn't come out as well as Inferno, so there we are.

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 7:29 pm

Ironhidensh wrote:On today's episode of "Ironhidensh makes no goddamn sense at all", I still hate Inferno, but I'm really digging on Grapple. Not sure why, but there you go.

It's the "zing"! :lol:

That and Grapple has those disc thingies on his shoulders and the extra grooves on his shins.

by **Oberon22** » Thu Mar 02, 2017 1:12 pm

I like both Grapple and Inferno and have ordered Artfire too. I probably won't be ordering Hauler though. The figures are incredible. The only thing that is really disappointing to me is the lack of back lights on the vehicles and lack of rear view mirrors. More chrome would have been cool too.

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Thu Mar 02, 2017 7:00 pm

Oberon22 wrote:I like both Grapple and Inferno and have ordered Artfire too. I probably won't be ordering Hauler though. The figures are incredible. The only thing that is really disappointing to me is the lack of back lights on the vehicles and lack of rear view mirrors. More chrome would have been cool too.

Hauler is confirmed? :shock:

Anyways mine just got shipped yesterday

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Thu Mar 02, 2017 7:11 pm

fenrir72 wrote:
Oberon22 wrote:I like both Grapple and Inferno and have ordered Artfire too. I probably won't be ordering Hauler though. The figures are incredible. The only thing that is really disappointing to me is the lack of back lights on the vehicles and lack of rear view mirrors. More chrome would have been cool too.

Hauler is confirmed?

As for the chrome, Don't be too excited about that because in my MP IH case, the chrome has corroded in such a short time (mine is the first JP release and handled minimally at the front bumper with latex gloves)

As for the "details", you can use this:

or wait for the official "Grapple" decal by Ocean decals which is an officially licensed Hasbro product.

Anyways mine just got shipped yesterday

by **Oberon22** » Thu Mar 02, 2017 8:40 pm

Hauler is not confirmed but can we have even the slightest doubt they will miss the opportunity for the repaint?

I am actually fine with the details. But alt modes are the most important for me. Starting with Ironhide they stopped making rear view mirrors and now even back lights. That's like leaving the vehicle incomplete.

I didn't know Hasbro would make official decals for Grapple??? How is that?

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Mar 02, 2017 9:32 pm

Oberon22 wrote:Hauler is not confirmed but can we have even the slightest doubt they will miss the opportunity for the repaint?

Well, Takara, Hasbro, Fun Pub, e-HOBBY, and all others never did a Hauler redeco of the Universe Inferno/Reveal the Shield Solar Storm Grappel mold.

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Thu Mar 02, 2017 10:14 pm

Oberon22 wrote:Hauler is not confirmed but can we have even the slightest doubt they will miss the opportunity for the repaint?

I am actually fine with the details. But alt modes are the most important for me. Starting with Ironhide they stopped making rear view mirrors and now even back lights. That's like leaving the vehicle incomplete.

I didn't know Hasbro would make official decals for Grapple??? How is that?

Officially sanctioned by Hb Asia Decals. Got the info it straight from Hb Australia.
They are transfer decal types. kinda a pain in the azz to aply so it's up to you how much bling you want to add.

Though I am kinda stumped where this red square goes to. Maybe the ladder?

Inferno's decal set more or less approximates the same details as Grapple so you can add them or wait for the actual Grapple set.

News Credits: 34 · by **Logan.** » Fri Mar 03, 2017 4:54 am

MP Inferno and Grapple Gifts Comparisons in (my) hand

News Credits: 5 · by **REMINATOR** » Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:47 pm

I won't be getting my MP Grapple and the little UM until Hero Hobby Tiny Magnus is in stock. So these images will have to be my entertainments for now. In regard to the mini UM, I'm glad they made him bigger than Prime just like the real toy. On the downside, it's a poor choice the way they oriented his lower hand and the way he held the gun. Looks so awkward.

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Wed Mar 08, 2017 3:11 am

Getting frustrated here ... what's the trick to getting the crane to sit flush?

From what I've seen (there's very few pictures of his back) the flap on his head/neck should fit over the fold of the crane yeah?

I can't get the crane to sit forward enough in the chest. grrrrrr

-edit-

Girlfriend figured it out. I'd missed the step in folding the hook down (I folded the hook, but not the arm it was attached too).

Crane magic isn't as much fun as ladder magic.

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:26 am

Surprise surprise!

I was expecting my Kotobukiya Marie Rose figure and Grapple showed up...FIRST ( I paid for him last! 8-}

My impressions (a very biased source).

Subtle differences makes Grapple NOT a lazy retool

Height. Both are basically almost as tall as each other but Grapple's groin/hip/whatchamacallit is slightly lower making/giving him the appearance of slightly shorter than Inferno.

The crane transform voodoo as Burn mentioned is a bit harder to do than the ladder. Locking the back panels takes getting used too (the one that makes up what we humans call the shoulder blades) The peg keeps on popping off.

The extra panels of the crane that don't fold into his back folds up to his back calves.

Obvious ones are the extra panels on his shoulders and shins.

Mine is the JP version so no extra freebies.

Get? Or not? Tough call unless you are into other stuff I recommend him. Just watch out for corroding chrome 1 year from now.

News Credits: 23 · by **Bumblebee21** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:40 am

grapple is shorter than inferno thats why you cant keep the hose hand in vehicle mode.
thhe vehicle mode is shorter than inferno and hes about an inch or two shorter than iinferno

News Credits: 25 · by **Ironhidensh** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:57 am

Burn wrote:Getting frustrated here ... what's the trick to getting the crane to sit flush?

From what I've seen (there's very few pictures of his back) the flap on his head/neck should fit over the fold of the crane yeah?

I can't get the crane to sit forward enough in the chest. grrrrrr

-edit-

Girlfriend figured it out. I'd missed the step in folding the hook down (I folded the hook, but not the arm it was attached too).

Crane magic isn't as much fun as ladder magic.

Noob.

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 9:27 am

Bumblebee21 wrote:grapple is shorter than inferno thats why you cant keep the hose hand in vehicle mode.
thhe vehicle mode is shorter than inferno and hes about an inch or two shorter than iinferno

millimeter/centimeter I believe you mean.

News Credits: 23 · by **Bumblebee21** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 9:32 am

fenrir72 wrote:
Bumblebee21 wrote:grapple is shorter than inferno thats why you cant keep the hose hand in vehicle mode.
thhe vehicle mode is shorter than inferno and hes about an inch or two shorter than iinferno

millimeter/centimeter I believe you mean.

true but its noticable

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 3:32 pm

Ironhidensh wrote:
Burn wrote:Getting frustrated here ... what's the trick to getting the crane to sit flush?

From what I've seen (there's very few pictures of his back) the flap on his head/neck should fit over the fold of the crane yeah?

I can't get the crane to sit forward enough in the chest. grrrrrr

-edit-

Girlfriend figured it out. I'd missed the step in folding the hook down (I folded the hook, but not the arm it was attached too).

Crane magic isn't as much fun as ladder magic.

Noob.

I deserved that ... but then I also have trouble reading Japanese instructions. :-P

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 3:56 pm

Burn wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:
Burn wrote:Getting frustrated here ... what's the trick to getting the crane to sit flush?

From what I've seen (there's very few pictures of his back) the flap on his head/neck should fit over the fold of the crane yeah?

I can't get the crane to sit forward enough in the chest. grrrrrr

-edit-

Girlfriend figured it out. I'd missed the step in folding the hook down (I folded the hook, but not the arm it was attached too).

Crane magic isn't as much fun as ladder magic.

Noob.

I deserved that ... but then I also have trouble reading Japanese instructions.

Could always have Va'al translate

News Credits: 23 · by **Bumblebee21** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:47 pm

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
Burn wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:
Burn wrote:Getting frustrated here ... what's the trick to getting the crane to sit flush?

From what I've seen (there's very few pictures of his back) the flap on his head/neck should fit over the fold of the crane yeah?

I can't get the crane to sit forward enough in the chest. grrrrrr

-edit-

Girlfriend figured it out. I'd missed the step in folding the hook down (I folded the hook, but not the arm it was attached too).

Crane magic isn't as much fun as ladder magic.

Noob.

I deserved that ... but then I also have trouble reading Japanese instructions.

Could always have Va'al translate

i want to see the translations on all the boxes. anyone find that

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:54 pm

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
Burn wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:
Burn wrote:Getting frustrated here ... what's the trick to getting the crane to sit flush?

From what I've seen (there's very few pictures of his back) the flap on his head/neck should fit over the fold of the crane yeah?

I can't get the crane to sit forward enough in the chest. grrrrrr

-edit-

Girlfriend figured it out. I'd missed the step in folding the hook down (I folded the hook, but not the arm it was attached too).

Crane magic isn't as much fun as ladder magic.

Noob.

I deserved that ... but then I also have trouble reading Japanese instructions.

Could always have Va'al translate

It's more the diagrams, they can be hard to read with my eyes at times.

Plus the end of the crane does have two pivot points very close together and the hook pivot was incredibly tight.

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 6:54 pm

The hardness of folding Grapple's extended part is probably due to the hefty layers of paint the put it. When I was running my finger along its length, I'm hard pressed to tell whether it is just glossy plastic or gloss paint.

So wen you first fold in his hook connector, I was like sweating because of the hardness of the joint.I looked at the manual and it folds but I was afraid of damaging the part.

Also, I wonder why no complaints on his having a butt flap this time? UM had one and it was accurate to his animation model sheets. Grapple? Not so sure.

On the matter of his face, I prefer the all orange over the mixed black with yellow ears. A good nod to the ever shifting way he was portrayed in the show.

I wonder if Takara will pull off a Road Hauler and a "toy" version Inferno with all the added sculpting?