The Energon Pub

by **DvDqNoC** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 6:08 pm

Just wondering...

News Credits: 1 · by **Agent 007** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 6:15 pm

they do look rather odd don't they? Maybe something to do with them being Diaclones?

News Credits: 11 · by **Overcracker** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 6:15 pm

http://www.seibertron.com/forums/viewto ... 22960&sid=

News Credits: 4 · by **Briggs** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 6:16 pm

Thinkt hey had diaclone pilots ors omething before they became transformers. don't know the history 100% for sure.

News Credits: 8 · by **Liege Evilmus** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 6:18 pm

Cause they where diaclone forklift worker bots and Hasbro was to lazy to update then to work with the animation.

by **OptitronPrime** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 6:19 pm

because they suck you want a G1 Ironhide get the BotCon exclusive or wait for the classics line

News Credits: 1 · by **Agent 007** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 6:23 pm

OptitronPrime wrote:because they suck you want a G1 Ironhide get the BotCon exclusive or wait for the classics line

great point

by **MegatronBomb** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 7:50 pm

Because they were piloted mecha, then teh Transformers cartoon was made around the figures, so take at easy on these 25+ year old classics.

News Credits: 4 · by **craggy** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 8:10 pm

Really, I want to know why they do have heads? A prime opportunity for some TF continuity to make it more clear that these are alien robots, not beholden to human proportions or anatomy. Of course, that doesn't always work out for the best, but still it'd be interesting to see a G1 cartoon styled version of the characters which adhered a little closer to the toy designs.

News Credits: 1 · by **iron maniac** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:20 pm

by **Swerve** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:37 pm

Deja vu! Didn't we just have this thread discussion like one week ago?

News Credits: 1 · by **Cascadia** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:56 pm

Before Hasbro and Takara developed Transformers, the figures were from the Diaclone line. The majority of the characters of G1 were Diaclone. The G1 molds are exactly like the Diaclone line. So, in terms of Ratchet and Ironhide, they were figures with no heads in both Diaclone and G1. In the Diaclone line, both Ratchet and Ironhide were not designed to be a sentient robot in the Diaclone line (they were piloted by a tiny driver figure who sat in the driver's seat), the toy of Ironhide & Ratchet did not have a proper head, instead having a pilot's seat behind their windshields.

News Credits: 2 · by **Sid Burn** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:20 pm

Mr.Bond007 wrote:
OptitronPrime wrote:because they suck you want a G1 Ironhide get the BotCon exclusive or wait for the classics line
great point

Glad someone said it before I did. I had an entire thread running about this a while back.

by **Icetron** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:22 pm

I was wondering the same thing yesterday actually...thanks for the info. I hope they make a classics Ratchet eventually...

by **Swerve** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:30 pm

Icetron wrote:I was wondering the same thing yesterday actually...thanks for the info. I hope they make a classics Ratchet eventually...

I'm hoping for a Classics remake of both Ratchet and Ironhide as well.

While it's not the quite the same thing, I did start a thread in the Transformers General Discussion forum about G1 accurate <a href="http://www.seibertron.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=23297&sid=">Ratchet and Ironhide</a> models that you can make out of cardstock. There is a link to a site that has a PDF file that you can print out on cardstock.

News Credits: 409 · by **Stormrider** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 2:07 am

Swerve wrote:
Icetron wrote:I was wondering the same thing yesterday actually...thanks for the info. I hope they make a classics Ratchet eventually...

I'm hoping for a Classics remake of both Ratchet and Ironhide as well.

While it's not the quite the same thing, I did start a thread in the Transformers General Discussion forum about G1 accurate <a href="http://www.seibertron.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=23297&sid=">Ratchet and Ironhide</a> models that you can make out of cardstock. There is a link to a site that has a PDF file that you can print out on cardstock.

I'm up for the Classic remake of them.

by **Evil FurryCon** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:09 am

Steal heads from other bots!

News Credits: 2 · by **Sid Burn** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:47 am

Evil FurryCon wrote:

Steal heads from other bots!

See, this is what I cannot for the life of me understand, why didnt takara do this?

The lack of heads keeps me from buying the encore 'hide and ratchet.

News Credits: 3 · by **loomdog32** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:48 pm

Their first comic appearance (Marvel US and UK #1 - after the ark crash and the bots wake up, during the roll call) had them looking exactly like the toy...

News Credits: 2 · by **Sid Burn** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 8:45 am

loomdog32 wrote:Their first comic appearance (Marvel US and UK #1 - after the ark crash and the bots wake up, during the roll call) had them looking exactly like the toy...

True but when you think of Ironhide or Ratchet, I doubt you picture them with chairs where their faces should be.