The Energon Pub

I've always been an advocate of plot progression. When it comes to Transformers, my interest has always been piqued during the generational shifts.

The generic Earth based designs of Sunbow Season 1 & 2 gave way to the exciting futuristic space age designs of The Movie and beyond. Beast Wars "organics" gave way to Transmetals which begat Vehicons etc etc

Clearly at these points the creativity and imagination of the HasTak designers runs wild and it's often a great thing to behold.

Other than whenever an all new City Bot Scorponok is released to complete my Modern City Bot collection, my only other ongoing collection is Beast Wars Masterpiece. Should that line end (at season one) and Scorponok be released, the ceaseless glut of G1 reissues/reimagingings/homages etc won't open my wallet again.

I was 3 y/o with Transformers The Movie. I got into Transformers from that point. I enjoy when Transformers goes forward, not back. Just look at He-Man or the failed revivals of any other of Transformers' contemporaries. The longer it goes on, nostalgia is a creative poison. When the fans that crave it go away, so does the series that fails to innovate.

I will be watching, for when HasTak next decides to cast G1 aside as they have done before and give us the 'New' and 'Exciting'. Until that happens, watching is all I'll be doing.

ZeroWolf wrote:I'm going to echo similar comments here by saying I'm bored with g1 theme, the toys on their own look pretty fun, but I'd rather they were all new characters, we need more alpha bravos and less slingshots. Maybe we will get something new once this trilogy is played out, but we shall see...though given how often they like to reuse trademarks to keep them, I think we'll see many more Primes and megatrons in the coming years.

There’ll be an optimus in every line of WFC. That’s a given. Titans return gave us four. FOUR Optimus Primes. I’m baffled potp didn’t release a megatron but I guess maybe it’s too bold to attempt a combiner torso of Megatron(IT WOULDA BEEN AWESOME HASBRO) or some insane concoction of an evolution leader class. But let’s be honest, the leader class in Potp were the leaders that were always planned. Even primal in my opinion(I don’t think the fan votes are really legit).

Anyway, no we’ll be getting an optimus and megatron in every line of this and probably a Starscream and more than likely legends will return and more Bumblebees and other minibots. Maybe some day cliffjumper and hubcap will happen

It's good to remember your roots. G1 was where it all began, so it's nice that it's getting honored in such a way.

To be fair, G1 has been honoured for nearly three decades now. Only the Beast Era and Unicron Trilogy forged their own identity. Even that wasn't entirely free of G1.

Yeah and it’s literally been honored since 2004 when Energon was unloading the G1 homepages in that line . The prime wars trilogy was literally recreating g1 characters with knees and elbows. Some are unique looking while some are...well...look at the original headmasters, superion, devastator predaking and good lord Trypticon.

I guess the best thing to expect is a really nice proportioned Omega Supreme. I haven’t followed much talk but I think we can expect him to be the same height as Devastator and Predaking since he’s not technically a Titan like metroplex, fort max and Trypticon. Right?

why is a member's feelings on something considered news?

("breaking news!!: i don't like/like something!!!")

It's been nothing BUT Geewun-lite ever since Animated died. Even the Aligned continuity started off with the extremely GEEWUN Cybertron games (which are good, but still). We get it, GEEWUN this GEEWUN that. Hell we even saw a resurgence of Beast Wars-bashing with Power of the Primes.

There's enough good in Siege to make it still worthwhile but if this continues and expand we'll end up with lines consisting of the same characters over and over again. I'm tired of Generation 1, it's trite and overplayed. At least give us the parts of Generation 1 (and 2) that haven't gotten constant exposure.

I question slightly the "easily affordable" statement. I've heard on good authority that Siege deluxes will be $30 Canadian. Which makes getting a Reflector team of 3 (characters who probably should have been legends size, not deluxe) $90 plus tax, unless you can snag them during one of Toys R Us's many sales.

It's an editorial. It's also a way to get us all talking as we're all the more likely to see it on the menu to the right. It's something in addition to the news

MeGrimlock78 wrote:I question slightly the "easily affordable" statement. I've heard on good authority that Siege deluxes will be $30. Which makes getting a Reflector team of 3 (characters who probably should have been legends size, not deluxe) $90 plus tax, unless you can snag them during one of Toys R Us's many sales.

Where have you heard this? Walgreens had the siege exclusive deluxe rachet listed for $18.99. Bit of a leap unless you're talking Australian dollars, which I have no idea about.

Octobotimus wrote:why is a member's feelings on something considered news?

("breaking news!!: i don't like/like something!!!")

Our front page "News", labeled as such, also has subcategories. These are noted at the top of the post above the author's name, and you'll note this one as "Site Articles" and "Editorials". The newspaper has editorials, as do news broadcasts and networks. If you don't want to view such content, I recommend using
https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/ to view by category using the drop-down. Hope that helps!

At this point I think Hasbro is just riding our current cultural stasis and obssession with the 1980 and 1990.

Octobotimus wrote:why is a member's feelings on something considered news?

("breaking news!!: i don't like/like something!!!")

It’s called an editorial. They’re a thing. If a memeber on the site wants to do one they can. Just like the comic and episode reviews.

ZeroWolf wrote:

MeGrimlock78 wrote:I question slightly the "easily affordable" statement. I've heard on good authority that Siege deluxes will be $30. Which makes getting a Reflector team of 3 (characters who probably should have been legends size, not deluxe) $90 plus tax, unless you can snag them during one of Toys R Us's many sales.

Where have you heard this? Walgreens had the siege exclusive deluxe rachet listed for $18.99. Bit of a leap unless you're talking Australian dollars, which I have no idea about.

Sorry! I did mean $30 Canadian.

Which is on par with TLK Premium figures.

MeGrimlock78 wrote:I question slightly the "easily affordable" statement. I've heard on good authority that Siege deluxes will be $30. Which makes getting a Reflector team of 3 (characters who probably should have been legends size, not deluxe) $90 plus tax, unless you can snag them during one of Toys R Us's many sales.

This is not accurate https://collecticontoys.com/collections ... 3449188410

Unless you meant in Canadough, in which case yes, Deluxe MSRP is close to 30 Canadian dollars (I'm not sure if that listing is MSRP or a little higher, but it's likely close) - which is already the case for Studio Series.

Edit: bad timing! You have pointed out exactly this, ignore me

Randomhero wrote:

Octobotimus wrote:why is a member's feelings on something considered news?

("breaking news!!: i don't like/like something!!!")

It’s called an editorial. They’re a thing. If a memeber on the site wants to do one they can. Just like the comic and episode reviews.

It was still put as news.... and from what i'm seeing, there is no news to be found in it. they can express their opinions and feeling all they want, but this shouldn't be considered news.

Octobotimus wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

Octobotimus wrote:why is a member's feelings on something considered news?

("breaking news!!: i don't like/like something!!!")

It’s called an editorial. They’re a thing. If a memeber on the site wants to do one they can. Just like the comic and episode reviews.

It was still put as news.... and from what i'm seeing, there is no news to be found in it. they can express their opinions and feeling all they want, but this shouldn't be considered news.

Things like the top 5 lists aren't really "news" either, but they still go up on the front page when they're published.

MeGrimlock78 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

MeGrimlock78 wrote:I question slightly the "easily affordable" statement. I've heard on good authority that Siege deluxes will be $30. Which makes getting a Reflector team of 3 (characters who probably should have been legends size, not deluxe) $90 plus tax, unless you can snag them during one of Toys R Us's many sales.

Where have you heard this? Walgreens had the siege exclusive deluxe rachet listed for $18.99. Bit of a leap unless you're talking Australian dollars, which I have no idea about.

Sorry! I did mean $30 Canadian.

Which is on par with TLK Premium figures.

No problem I forgot about the Canadian Dollar when I posted

Quantum Surge wrote:I'd rather have each franchise have it's own identity than have the now obligated Geewunwashing.

how is it Geewunwashing? its what started the whole franchise we never hear of marvel or dc going way off the original designs for new content or dragonballZ or Gundam its always the same look and inspiration, but with transformers its different? we get G1 haters who think we have to have something different every time, NO! we don't! sure we can create new characters but keeping original characters recognizable is key even when we create new stories it wouldn't be transformers if everything about it was unrecognizable

Gundam isn't the best example to use as gundam furthers it's story each time, it doesn't reuse characters all the time, Sunrise have got it in a nice groove now by releasing UC timeline shows and new alternative universe shows.

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Octobotimus wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

Octobotimus wrote:why is a member's feelings on something considered news?

("breaking news!!: i don't like/like something!!!")

It’s called an editorial. They’re a thing. If a memeber on the site wants to do one they can. Just like the comic and episode reviews.

It was still put as news.... and from what i'm seeing, there is no news to be found in it. they can express their opinions and feeling all they want, but this shouldn't be considered news.

Things like the top 5 lists aren't really "news" either, but they still go up on the front page when they're published.

I've also expressed my opinion on those as well, idk why they consider these things as news...

Couldn't be bothered reading the original article, too long, short attention span, skimmed over most of the comments (it's early!).

As someone who was there for G1 and has a very extensive G1 collection of toys and UK comics, I can safely say that I'm over this G1 influence.

Prime Wars Trilogy was fantastic in that a lot of figures were of characters that haven't really seen the light of day for 30 odd years.

But now we're getting Siege, back to the core group of characters, characters that have had so many iterations over the years. Yeah, I know, there's some characters like the Micromasters that are getting updates, but the bulk of the line so far is your standard core group of characters.

Don't get me wrong, I like what's coming and will be collecting it, BUT ... I just want to see some new characters.

For a franchise with a core gimmick about change, we don't seem to get much change.

Octobotimus wrote:I've also expressed my opinion on those as well, idk why they consider these things as news...

While your opinion is appreciated, it would be better if you were to direct your concerns to news@seibertron.com rather than driving the thread off-topic. Cheers.

MeGrimlock78 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

MeGrimlock78 wrote:I question slightly the "easily affordable" statement. I've heard on good authority that Siege deluxes will be $30. Which makes getting a Reflector team of 3 (characters who probably should have been legends size, not deluxe) $90 plus tax, unless you can snag them during one of Toys R Us's many sales.

Where have you heard this? Walgreens had the siege exclusive deluxe rachet listed for $18.99. Bit of a leap unless you're talking Australian dollars, which I have no idea about.

Sorry! I did mean $30 Canadian.

Which is on par with TLK Premium figures.

Well, it's a good thing this line isn't full of special teams one need to complete because that's going to hurt the pocket. Seems like almost a 10$ jump, assuming the price include taxes.

Here's the thing: I grew up on the Bayverse movies. That's what got me into Transformers. Yet, I am truly thrilled that Hasbro is taking this G1 direction with ALL of their toys lines at the moment. I don't want it to stay like this forever, but all I know is I'm ACTUALLY interested in purchasing a Starscream, Shockwave, Optimus Prime, Megatron, Ultra Magnus, Ironhide, Sideswipe and Soundwave figure for the first time in 5-8 years. And on the same note, this is the MOST excited I've ever been for a Transformers Movie. And ultimately, the excitement for all this comes from the G1 designs. To me, that's where things can't go wrong. So even though I have a natural love and devotion to the Bayverse designs/movies (as many people have with G1), These G1 heavy designs being used is the best thing to happen to hasbro for as long as I can remember.