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Re: Worst toys, you'd like to see redone

Postby BeastProwl » Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:59 pm

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Overload.
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Seekers.
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Articulation is a GOOD thing.
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Re: Worst toys, you'd like to see redone

Postby NTESHFT » Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:45 pm

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robofreak wrote:They can't add the spark gimmick anymore due to lawsuit back in the 90s where a girl set herself on fire with a spark gimmick in a Barbie toy.

You'll just have to settle for awesome toys that don't have a flint rock in them.


monstergrotusque wrote:I'd like too see the Monsterbots redone. With truely monstrous alt modes and lots of articulation with massive amounts of sparks blasting out of there faces when you press the button. Not a quarter of an inch like the G1 figs.

Fansproject ,i believe, would be the best candidates to pull this off. Minus the flamethrowing part. Hasbro or Takara would never ever touch these guys with a ten foot pole and if they did, they'd be complete shite. :BANG_HEAD:

So my only hope would be from a 3rd party racket of some sort.

Hasbro really surprised me with Gen Wreck-Gar though.....he was a character i desperately wanted to see, next to the Monsterbots ,get a redo and i thought i would never see it happen. So maybe they could surprise me!!? i doubt it....not on this one.


Dude, I didn't know that. I liked the spark gimmick back then.

Here's my list of redo's:

Classics Galvatron
Power Master Prime
Rachet and Ironhide
Classics Astrotrain and Octane
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Re: Worst toys, you'd like to see redone

Postby ratedjko » Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:28 pm

i would like to see a new voyager mold for movie ratchet

and a metallic DOTM sideswipe. :grin:
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Re: Worst toys, you'd like to see redone

Postby Doubledealer93 » Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:26 pm

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ratedjko wrote:i would like to see a new voyager mold for movie ratchet

and a metallic DOTM sideswipe. :grin:


i would kill to have a new voyager ratchet mold -__-
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Re: Worst toys, you'd like to see redone

Postby fenrir72 » Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:47 pm

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1. Godginrai. There actually was a better proportioned Godbomber that got canceled in favor of what we already know(the mass produced unit). Maybe try releasing that with a smaller Super Robot head? Or the other proto type in the 1988 catalog of Powermaster Optimus. The Super Robot mode had actual feet like his box art.

2.Superlink Grand Convoy aka Fatimus Prime. 'nuff said!

3.Henkei Jetfire.......he deserves a larger scale at Leader size

4.Henkei Galvatron, same like Skyfire, too small.
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Re: Worst toys, you'd like to see redone

Postby craggy » Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:50 pm

gonna throw out some weird thinking here, but bare with me.

Bludgeon, as a Deluxe - Generations Thunderwing (and Skullgrin to a much lesser extent) showed that Pretenders characters deserve some love, and when done right can be great. Now, I have ROTF Bludgeon, and he is relatively posable, and does have some pretty cool aspects to him (the way he can store his swords on his hip is pretty cool...shame he can't easily hold them) but Thunderwing is a perfect example of putting out a Pretender shell-looking robot that is still transformable. I also think Bludgeon would have suited the smaller size-class more.

Generations Thunderwing, in a bigger size-class. Voyager-size this guy would feel much more like the uber-powerful deadly leader type he's supposed to be. Maybe add in a power-up mode gimmick like the IDW comics gave him, making there an optional jet mode that'd look a bit like Energon Megatron. I love the look of the figure that we have, but he always seems like he's really far away when he's lined up next to the other Cons.
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Re: Worst toys, you'd like to see redone

Postby Valandar » Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:45 pm

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You DO know that Bludgeon was one of the Decepticon leaders in the comic run, too, right?
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Re: Worst toys, you'd like to see redone

Postby STINGRAY749 » Sat Jul 23, 2011 12:59 am

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i'd like to see a armada sideways with the same amount of articulation that gens wrek-gar but keeping the gimmick withe the minicons.
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Re: Worst toys, you'd like to see redone

Postby craggy » Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:08 am

Valandar wrote:You DO know that Bludgeon was one of the Decepticon leaders in the comic run, too, right?

yeah, but he was never that big compared to anyone else. he seemed average size, and I'd prefer he was agile and swift looking, as opposed to big and lumbering looking.
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Re: Worst toys, you'd like to see redone

Postby joesaysso » Sat Jul 23, 2011 6:21 am

Weapon: Plasma Beam Rifle
Classics Galvatron for sure. I get they don't want to make toys that look like realistic guns but being an alien cannon should get Galvatron a pass. I want to see proper voyager releases of Classics Galvatron, Megatron, and Prime.

The Classics Megatron figure was terrible. Why can't megatron ever get a good figure? The best Megatron figures came from the animated line with WFC Megs a close third. The movie figures are terrible, all of them. The G1.....well it is a classic but it is pretty hideous. The MP....we will just refer to that figure as ole' chicken legs from here on out. The beastwars, armada, energon.....and whatever other lines between G1 and Classics, don't waste my time.

The figure was designed to look like a nerf gun. This is just foul. The colors are horrible. Purple, hasbro really? Purple? The Henkei version is much superior in the color department and would be a great Megatron figure if not for the gigantic kibble on his back. Its not even little. The kibble is nearly as big as the figures bot mode. Its horrendous and completely unforgivable.

Galvatron has been discussed a few times, I won't bother other than to say a proper colored, voyager class, cannon. Hasbro, pay attention!

The Prime figure is the worst offender of the three but I just can't get passed the arm kibble. As usual, Hasbro gave us the severly inferior color scheme while Henkei looks great. A proper laser rifle would have been nice as opposed to the smoke stack, fold up sub-machine gun gimmick.

What bothers me about the classics line is that so many of lesser characters come out great while so of the more note worthy characters look like garbage. Along with the three mentioned, you can throw Grimlock into the mix as his figure is also atrocious.
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Re: Worst toys, you'd like to see redone

Postby ratedjko » Sat Jul 23, 2011 12:59 pm

Doubledealer25 wrote:
ratedjko wrote:i would like to see a new voyager mold for movie ratchet

and a metallic DOTM sideswipe. :grin:


i would kill to have a new voyager ratchet mold -__-


an upgraded DC DOTM Ratchet mold would do. =)
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Re: Worst toys, you'd like to see redone

Postby Doubledealer93 » Sat Jul 23, 2011 2:15 pm

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ratedjko wrote:
Doubledealer25 wrote:
ratedjko wrote:i would like to see a new voyager mold for movie ratchet

and a metallic DOTM sideswipe. :grin:


i would kill to have a new voyager ratchet mold -__-


an upgraded DC DOTM Ratchet mold would do. =)


um yeah, i cant say i love that mold either. i feel ripped off by getting that thing >.< the weapon is cool and im gonna put it with my voyager ratchet from the first movie.
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Re: Worst toys, you'd like to see redone

Postby Autobot-Hellstriker » Sat Jul 23, 2011 2:47 pm

Motto: "Those foolish enough to face me are lucky to survive, even if they only lose a arm."
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Here's a G1 Bludgeon what i want to see.

The Samurai shell
- Supreme or leader class size shell with articulation.

- Light-piping in the Helmet which gives him a evil red eyes in his skull

- A chromed/silver colored katana because you can't have a samurai without a sword and Hasbro failed on that in the 1980's

- A small backpack formed his back which houses a small voice function with some famous Bludgeon quotes from the comics.

- A torn Decepticon war flag in samurai flag style on his back which can also be carried in his left hand and can be used to stab enemies.

Inner Robot
- The inner robot is will be roughly a small scout class or deluxe class sized green tank with maroon robot parts like the original.

- Inner robot is armed with a small katana and pistol in robot mode

- Robot goes into shell by opening two door panels on chest area of the samurai suit.
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Re: Worst toys, you'd like to see redone

Postby BeastProwl » Sat Jul 23, 2011 7:45 pm

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Autobot-Hellstriker wrote:Here's a G1 Bludgeon what i want to see.

The Samurai shell
- Supreme or leader class size shell with articulation.

- Light-piping in the Helmet which gives him a evil red eyes in his skull

- A chromed/silver colored katana because you can't have a samurai without a sword and Hasbro failed on that in the 1980's

- A small backpack formed his back which houses a small voice function with some famous Bludgeon quotes from the comics.

- A torn Decepticon war flag in samurai flag style on his back which can also be carried in his left hand and can be used to stab enemies.

Inner Robot
- The inner robot is will be roughly a small scout class or deluxe class sized green tank with maroon robot parts like the original.

- Inner robot is armed with a small katana and pistol in robot mode

- Robot goes into shell by opening two door panels on chest area of the samurai suit.

So, Basically stick ROTF TRU Bludeon In a giant customized action figure with a higed chest, like some giant mech suit, or something along those lines?
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Re: Worst toys, you'd like to see redone

Postby Autobot-Hellstriker » Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:06 pm

Motto: "Those foolish enough to face me are lucky to survive, even if they only lose a arm."
Weapon: Automatic Acid-Pellet Gun
BeastProwl wrote:
Autobot-Hellstriker wrote:Here's a G1 Bludgeon what i want to see.

The Samurai shell
- Supreme or leader class size shell with articulation.

- Light-piping in the Helmet which gives him a evil red eyes in his skull

- A chromed/silver colored katana because you can't have a samurai without a sword and Hasbro failed on that in the 1980's

- A small backpack formed his back which houses a small voice function with some famous Bludgeon quotes from the comics.

- A torn Decepticon war flag in samurai flag style on his back which can also be carried in his left hand and can be used to stab enemies.

Inner Robot
- The inner robot is will be roughly a small scout class or deluxe class sized green tank with maroon robot parts like the original.

- Inner robot is armed with a small katana and pistol in robot mode

- Robot goes into shell by opening two door panels on chest area of the samurai suit.

So, Basically stick ROTF TRU Bludeon In a giant customized action figure with a hinged chest, like some giant mech suit, or something along those lines?


Nope RotF Bludgeon is a lame Voyager with a sad excuse for a skull and character interpretion of combining aa samurai suit into a movie universe robot was a terrible idea IMO.

The G1 character robot was no bigger than a common minicon or legends figure would be compared to the old, but that size is too small for such a awesome character so he should be a deluxe class figure that serves as the robotic controller.
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Re: Worst toys, you'd like to see redone

Postby BeastProwl » Sun Jul 24, 2011 2:32 pm

Motto: "Gravity Hurts"
Weapon: Razor Tipped Wing Swords
Autobot-Hellstriker wrote:
BeastProwl wrote:
Autobot-Hellstriker wrote:Here's a G1 Bludgeon what i want to see.

The Samurai shell
- Supreme or leader class size shell with articulation.

- Light-piping in the Helmet which gives him a evil red eyes in his skull

- A chromed/silver colored katana because you can't have a samurai without a sword and Hasbro failed on that in the 1980's

- A small backpack formed his back which houses a small voice function with some famous Bludgeon quotes from the comics.

- A torn Decepticon war flag in samurai flag style on his back which can also be carried in his left hand and can be used to stab enemies.

Inner Robot
- The inner robot is will be roughly a small scout class or deluxe class sized green tank with maroon robot parts like the original.

- Inner robot is armed with a small katana and pistol in robot mode

- Robot goes into shell by opening two door panels on chest area of the samurai suit.

So, Basically stick ROTF TRU Bludeon In a giant customized action figure with a hinged chest, like some giant mech suit, or something along those lines?


Nope RotF Bludgeon is a lame Voyager with a sad excuse for a skull and character interpretion of combining aa samurai suit into a movie universe robot was a terrible idea IMO.

The G1 character robot was no bigger than a common minicon or legends figure would be compared to the old, but that size is too small for such a awesome character so he should be a deluxe class figure that serves as the robotic controller.

NO! TRU Bludgeon. he's a re-paint of wreakage. he's a deluxe...
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Re: Worst toys, you'd like to see redone

Postby craggy » Sun Jul 24, 2011 6:37 pm

joesaysso wrote: The Henkei version is much superior in the color department and would be a great Megatron figure if not for the gigantic kibble on his back.

are you not allowed access to a screwdriver?
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Re: Worst toys, you'd like to see redone

Postby BeastProwl » Sun Jul 24, 2011 7:02 pm

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Weapon: Razor Tipped Wing Swords
craggy wrote:
joesaysso wrote: The Henkei version is much superior in the color department and would be a great Megatron figure if not for the gigantic kibble on his back.

are you not allowed access to a screwdriver?

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Re: Worst toys, you'd like to see redone

Postby dinojack86 » Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:22 am

A few Beast Wars I'd say-
1. Rhinox- his original toy was terrible- looked only vaguely like his cartoon counterpart. I'd say make one much more cartoon accurate without the face mask and give him his twin gatlin guns!
2. Silverbolt- Needs to be a Voyager- that way he can pose next to Transmetal 2 Blackarachnia. Plus you could get so much more detail in that way.
3. Dinobot- of all the BW toys his is the one that deserves a better one. Both the original and Transmetal 2 versions hold little to be desired. The Transmetal 2 is only slightly above the original in my eyes. I'd say make a Voyager or even a Leader with cartoon accurate bot mode (face, etc.) remove the face mask and any other kibble (as much as possible) and give him green light piping in the eyes :)
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Re: Worst toys, you'd like to see redone

Postby Twitchythe3rd » Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:48 pm

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Re: Worst toys, you'd like to see redone

Postby Optimus1138 » Thu Jul 28, 2011 6:30 pm

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I want new a Deluxe figure of Movie Jazz, and a new Deluxe or Human Alliance figure of Bumblebee as the '74 Camaro. Jazz has a cool design and vehicle mode, but his toy's robot mode is pretty bad, between the squat build and the weird "arms" and "hands," and I really like the '74 Camaro, but the toy's robot mode wasn't very good. A HA figure of him would be a good rival for HA Barricade.
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Re: Worst toys, you'd like to see redone

Postby dirk2243 » Thu Jul 28, 2011 7:08 pm

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Optimus1138 wrote:I want new a Deluxe figure of Movie Jazz, and a new Deluxe or Human Alliance figure of Bumblebee as the '74 Camaro. Jazz has a cool design and vehicle mode, but his toy's robot mode is pretty bad, between the squat build and the weird "arms" and "hands," and I really like the '74 Camaro, but the toy's robot mode wasn't very good. A HA figure of him would be a good rival for HA Barricade.


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Re: Worst toys, you'd like to see redone

Postby trence5 » Thu Jul 28, 2011 7:40 pm

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I would love see a classics revamp and updated version of Apeface and Snapdragon. Maybe Triggerhappy and Sluggslinger too
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Re: Worst toys, you'd like to see redone

Postby SentinelA » Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:53 am

G1 Megatron, Ironhide and Ratchet and Hound
G2 Megatron - although the original is cool I'd like to see more articulation, just make a bigger version of the Hero version
Universe 2.0 Galvatron - this was just a disgrase
G1 Optimus Prime - although the original is a favorite, I'd like to see a new slightly bigger version with articulation.
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Re: Worst toys, you'd like to see redone

Postby RhA » Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:56 am

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t$money$49 wrote:i'd like to see a armada sideways with the same amount of articulation that gens wrek-gar but keeping the gimmick withe the minicons.


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