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News Credits: 4 · by **MacrossFA19** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:23 pm

Greyryder wrote:
RavageX-9 wrote:How many VTOL jets actually have turbines that normally point downward? don't most of them merely have jets that can be angled downward OR backwards? (adjustable) in which case all he needs are wings that can rotate in vehicle mode without scraping the ground.

The only fixed wing VTOL I know of with a dedicated lift fan is the Marines variant of the F-35 joint strike fighter. It has a lift fan behind the cockpit, with upper and lower doors that only open when the fan is in use. The problem with lift fans is that they add a lot of weight, that doesn't serve any purpose most of the time.

However, I'm still a sucker for any aircraft that can stop before it lands. I already have a second Starscream set aside to make my own Thrust.

I may be wrong but isn't thrust also a conehead?

by **Greyryder** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 5:20 pm

MacrossFA19 wrote:I may be wrong but isn't thrust also a conehead?

Animation errors, no matter how consistent are still animation errors.

I hate the conehead look. It's the reason I don't plan on buying Ramjet. It looks even worse as a toy, than it did in the cartoon. Besides that, it gives the toy a stubby looking nosecone, and Thrust was always shown with a longer sleeker nose cone.

by **Tramp** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 8:04 pm

MacrossFA19 wrote:
Greyryder wrote:
RavageX-9 wrote:How many VTOL jets actually have turbines that normally point downward? don't most of them merely have jets that can be angled downward OR backwards? (adjustable) in which case all he needs are wings that can rotate in vehicle mode without scraping the ground.

The only fixed wing VTOL I know of with a dedicated lift fan is the Marines variant of the F-35 joint strike fighter. It has a lift fan behind the cockpit, with upper and lower doors that only open when the fan is in use. The problem with lift fans is that they add a lot of weight, that doesn't serve any purpose most of the time.

However, I'm still a sucker for any aircraft that can stop before it lands. I already have a second Starscream set aside to make my own Thrust.

I may be wrong but isn't thrust also a conehead?

Yes, Thrust is a cone-head, just like Ramjet and Dirge. Of the six Seekers, three had normal heads, while three had cone-heads. That wasn't an animation error.

by **RavageX-9** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 11:37 am

Tramp wrote:
MacrossFA19 wrote:I may be wrong but isn't thrust also a conehead?

Yes, Thrust is a cone-head, just like Ramjet and Dirge. Of the six Seekers, three had normal heads, while three had cone-heads. That wasn't an animation error.

Yeah. Wrong terminology. More like an animation DESIGN ... uh... hrm... it's not an error. hell, I don't know what to call it. An animation error would be giving Shockwave two fists. The coneheads were designed that way in the character art for the show.
I dunno about Thrust's vehicle mode being any more long than the other coneheads though. they all had generic middle sections of thier vehicle modes anyways. (animation errors aside

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by **James28210** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 10:03 pm

I am sure he was being funny...thats why he said "no matter how consistent"

I like the cone "heads" in bot mode, but I don't care for the shorter jet noses either.

by **primezimm** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 10:15 pm

I was comparing classics ramjet to my G1 Starscream. They look to be about the same hieght and size. would it be possible to modify the G1 seekers wings for these customs or would it be better to custom build? I never liked the coneheads when they were originally released, but I liked Ramjet enough to buy it and I'm planning on working on the other two. I'm still trying to find Starscream, didn't have the money when I could find him.

News Credits: 3 · by **@l3x** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 12:06 am

Does it affect the stability of the figure at all to not have the bar over the cokpit?

by **Tramp** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 12:12 am

@l3x wrote:Does it affect the stability of the figure at all to not have the bar over the cokpit?

Which one? The one in the front of the canopy or the back of the canopy? Removing neither will affect the structural integrity, but removing then will destroy the transparency of the canopy

by **James28210** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 12:20 am

He is talking about the chest crossmember that was removed from dirge in Macross' picture.

by **ptitvite** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 10:15 am

primezimm wrote:I was comparing classics ramjet to my G1 Starscream. They look to be about the same hieght and size. would it be possible to modify the G1 seekers wings for these customs or would it be better to custom build? I never liked the coneheads when they were originally released, but I liked Ramjet enough to buy it and I'm planning on working on the other two. I'm still trying to find Starscream, didn't have the money when I could find him.

Starscream is all about whats left around here and have'nt seen any Ramjet yet. If I can only get my hands on 3 of them.
Nice work btw!

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