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cyberstomp'n bb is in his 1976 version. I guess wave 1 bumblebee is only the 1976 camero.

well I guess you are all stuck in the past, affrad of change. transformers that are blocky are out of date and are old. but I ca understand if you like the older versions more but you cant really hate something if you haveent got to see it in action yet.

Like the deluxes and Megatron...

Not liking Prime. I don't think this mold does him proper justice. In the movie from the pics I've seen he looks good. This one looks very boxey and unsleek in robot mode, especially in the chest. Poor guy. Maybe I just need to have it in my hand. Maybe it will grow on me then. (sorry if this a repeat, I read a few pages and stopped to reply).

Thanks for the pics Professor Smooth...Liking Jazz and Barricade a lot!!!

So im gussing the pic we saw a while back is bonecrusher

bumblezzz wrote:well I guess you are all stuck in the past, affrad of change. transformers that are blocky are out of date and are old. but I ca understand if you like the older versions more but you cant really hate something if you haveent got to see it in action yet.

not me i love them all no matter what they look like i dont think what they look like makes them the character how they act is what makes the character.

HitsugiKun wrote:So im gussing the pic we saw a while back is bonecrusher

No, this is Bonecrusher

Megatron looks WAY better as a toy than he does as an animation model (though that's damning with faint praise, and intentionally so), and the deluxes all look pretty nice... Well, except for Bumblebee, who is just so-so... Would have been better if it were anyone other than bumblebee. Prime I'll have to see in stores to make my mind up on him. Doubly so for the stompers... If they're big and cheep, I may get one. Where are the voyagers, though? We need more Blackout!

magnusupreme wrote:one word...perfect

one word...blind.

quick question....... when the he11 was there ever mentioned to be a "earth mode" for megs........ last time i checked **SPOILER**
























ther was onle one "mode" for megs and that "mystery toy" prototype that we thought was bonecrusher/earth megs is actually a clone turbo tank http://www.starwars.com/databank/vehicle/turbotank/index.html transformer from episode 3........ i watched today an compared it to the one it the photo.... exact match except fot the gun on top of the toy[/url]

Black_Convoy wrote:

HitsugiKun wrote:So im gussing the pic we saw a while back is bonecrusher

No, this is Bonecrusher

bonecrusher is a garbage truck .jk

something just occured to me(sorry if someone said this already). maybe cyber stompin bumblebee is that voice activated thing that was mentioned a few weeks ago

i realy like prime but he looks so good in his altmode that i hope he isnt one of those figures you cant transform back oh to see the movie listings for the toys go here.


http://www.toywiz.com/trhabcobcoso.html

Optimus Prime is bloody fugly. Realy. Meg's ...Meh. BB and Barricade are too... Minicon ish, 2 B Honest, Barricade looks like the recent Police car minicon. :/
Brawl and Jazz aren't bad, look like E Demolishor and C Sideways respectively, to me.

OK.

I'm sold.

I've given warm comments on some toys and 'bot modes we've seen and cooler on others. I felt fine with the different aesthetic, save only for the faces. As of seeing these full-color shots, however, I'm completely sold on the movie line. They'll probably cost more than I want to spend, so possibly I'll be waiting a while for some, but each figure in that line-up looked pretty impressive. Even Megatron, if you disassociate him from any previous Megatron.

Just think about that feature on the best figures--electronics automatically moving parts to assist in transformation. You'll feel like you're dealing with a bona fide robot in disguise. If they actually get that working without a long list of glitches, that'll be the first gimmick that's come around since G1 that's really and truly new and impressive.

Menbailee wrote:OK.

I'm sold.

I've given warm comments on some toys and 'bot modes we've seen and cooler on others. I felt fine with the different aesthetic, save only for the faces. As of seeing these full-color shots, however, I'm completely sold on the movie line. They'll probably cost more than I want to spend, so possibly I'll be waiting a while for some, but each figure in that line-up looked pretty impressive. Even Megatron, if you disassociate him from any previous Megatron.

Just think about that feature on the best figures--electronics automatically moving parts to assist in transformation. You'll feel like you're dealing with a bona fide robot in disguise. If they actually get that working without a long list of glitches, that'll be the first gimmick that's come around since G1 that's really and truly new and impressive.

what gimmicks were impresive in g1 i didnt notice any?

bumblezzz wrote:well I guess you are all stuck in the past, affrad of change. transformers that are blocky are out of date and are old. but I ca understand if you like the older versions more but you cant really hate something if you haveent got to see it in action yet.

........excuse me? I thought we got past all this crap months ago. If "blocky" TF's are so out of date....why have they been Hasbro's bread & butter for so many years? Better yet, Why did Beast Machines fail? Why did they ditch Transtech designs & RID designs for the Unicron trillogy...which was nothing but "blocky"? Why did Hasbro decide to use "blocky" G1 designs as the base for the filler line between Cybertron & the movie line? No sir, blocky robots are not out of date just because a few key people in high places in hollywood are trying to shove the idea that they are down people's throat.

I guess the reverse could be said about people favoring change.....they're stuck on anything "new" or "different"...afraid of clinging onto anything for more than a brief second for the fear that they might get left behind if they do....or better still, they're not true TF fans, because they don't want the Transformers, they just want generic movie monsters with the Transformers logo slapped on it.

.......but then again, that would be ignorant to say, because everyone is entitled to their opinion, & everbody will love or hate what they want based on nothing but their own tastes....

Aside from that, what I posted earlier just about sums up any other thoughts about your baited post:

I think the problem a lot of people have is that these movie characters are meant to represent their G1 counterparts, where applicable, & yet most of the designs seen so far look nothing like who they represent, & those that do are really stretching it. I mean honestly, have you heard anybody complain about Blackout? hell, I think he's awsome myself, but Megs....he's supposed to be representing ol' Nazi handgun, & looks nothing like him, save the fact that he's gray. On their own, these designs are pretty neat, & I really think Hasbro did a good job of coming up with designs that are "blocky" enough to satisfy die-hard fans...except maybe Beast Warrior(no offense, dude, everybody's entitled to their opinion)....but as representatives of G1, they fail miserably.

.....& I'll probably get at least 1 version of every last one of them.

Nemesis Cyberplex wrote:

bumblezzz wrote:well I guess you are all stuck in the past, affrad of change. transformers that are blocky are out of date and are old. but I ca understand if you like the older versions more but you cant really hate something if you haveent got to see it in action yet.

........excuse me? I thought we got past all this crap months ago. If "blocky" TF's are so out of date....why have they been Hasbro's bread & butter for so many years? Better yet, Why did Beast Machines fail? Why did they ditch Transtech designs & RID designs for the Unicron trillogy...which was nothing but "blocky"? Why did Hasbro decide to use "blocky" G1 designs as the base for the filler line between Cybertron & the movie line? No sir, blocky robots are not out of date just because a few key people in high places in hollywood are trying to shove the idea that they are down people's throat.

I guess the reverse could be said about people favoring change.....they're stuck on anything "new" or "different"...afraid of clinging onto anything for more than a brief second for the fear that they might get left behind if they do....or better still, they're not true TF fans, because they don't want the Transformers, they just want generic movie monsters with the Transformers logo slapped on it.

.......but then again, that would be ignorant to say, because everyone is entitled to their opinion, & everbody will love or hate what they want based on nothing but their own tastes....

Aside from that, what I posted earlier just about sums up any other thoughts about your baited post:

I think the problem a lot of people have is that these movie characters are meant to represent their G1 counterparts, where applicable, & yet most of the designs seen so far look nothing like who they represent, & those that do are really stretching it. I mean honestly, have you heard anybody complain about Blackout? hell, I think he's awsome myself, but Megs....he's supposed to be representing ol' Nazi handgun, & looks nothing like him, save the fact that he's gray. On their own, these designs are pretty neat, & I really think Hasbro did a good job of coming up with designs that are "blocky" enough to satisfy die-hard fans...except maybe Beast Warrior(no offense, dude, everybody's entitled to their opinion)....but as representatives of G1, they fail miserably.

.....& I'll probably get at least 1 version of every last one of them.

Yeah but wasnt their a law suit or somthing where bay had to make big changes to transformers so parmount couldnt say they own the original. I do understad that every one is intitled to there own opinion but i still like the sleekdesgins beast wars was not a failure neither was beast machines i didnt car for g1 xuz it was cheasy and boring i like the sleak designs mad fore the movie. But like you said every one has their own opinion. Also i ave a fealing transformers heros is going to be a complete failure. I do agree with bumblezzzz thought i dont think we are ever geting g1 back classics were mearly a aniversary filler line nothing more.

Still thinking this is a disaster in term of the designs but of all of those toys the Prime is the most acceptable

not touching these

HitsugiKun wrote:Yeah but wasnt their a law suit or somthing where bay had to make big changes to transformers so parmount couldnt say they own the original.

It would be the first I've heard of it. Everything I've heard from producers like Don Murphy & Desanto & such was that they tried making blocky designs & Bay's crew decided they liked the exploding kibble designs better.

I like em and Im gonna buy em.

Nemesis Cyberplex wrote:

HitsugiKun wrote:Yeah but wasnt their a law suit or somthing where bay had to make big changes to transformers so parmount couldnt say they own the original.

It would be the first I've heard of it. Everything I've heard from producers like Don Murphy & Desanto & such was that they tried making blocky designs & Bay's crew decided they liked the exploding kibble designs better.

well they do look better and funner to transform cuz g1 was so boring you flip 2 things and wala its done.

HitsugiKun wrote:

Nemesis Cyberplex wrote:

HitsugiKun wrote:Yeah but wasnt their a law suit or somthing where bay had to make big changes to transformers so parmount couldnt say they own the original.

It would be the first I've heard of it. Everything I've heard from producers like Don Murphy & Desanto & such was that they tried making blocky designs & Bay's crew decided they liked the exploding kibble designs better.

well they do look better and funner to transform cuz g1 was so boring you flip 2 things and wala its done.

...the differences are about the same as the differences with video game today and games that were made around the same time as G1.... they're made more intracately, & play time from start to finish is longer (usually 10-40 hours as opposed to 2 or 3), but by making games longer you lose replay value, because the more complicated designs are more cumbersome & time-consuming to repeat than the older, simpler games. With the newer TF designs, it is also more cumbersome & time-consuming to continually transform the newer toys than the simpler G1 figures did. So as far as simplicity in design, there are strengths & weaknesses in either method, as you'll have some that like one way & some that will like the other. But I will agree that their structual designs, not transformations, are far better than G1's designs, what with ball joints & ratchet joints & plastic injection techniques & such.


Anyway, I've heard of no one that has stated that they wanted this movie to be pure G1 with the movie set in the 80's, & all the toys nothing but G1 reissues. Most people I've heard from just want something more like what they know to be transformers....something along the lines of what they did with the Classics line, or better yet, the Alternators....but no, not a flat-out live action CG remake of the first 3 episodes of G1.

I bet there are more pics on the back of the catalog and the guy forgot to get them up.

Nemesis Cyberplex wrote:
Anyway, I've heard of no one that has stated that they wanted this movie to be pure G1 with the movie set in the 80's, & all the toys nothing but G1 reissues. Most people I've heard from just want something more like what they know to be transformers....something along the lines of what they did with the Classics line, or better yet, the Alternators....but no, not a flat-out live action CG remake of the first 3 episodes of G1.

My thoughts exactly. There is a certain design aesthetic that made the original line so popular and trying to stay 100% faithful would not be realistic but what they have shown is less than 5% which is too bad.