The Energon Pub

Cybertron Metroplex is the SINGLE WORST TOY IN THAT ENTIRE LINE. No redeco ever would convince me to buy another version of it.

It is shite.

Pure and utter shite.

In a line that I honestly think is the best overall tf that has come out, Cyb Metroplex is the only toy that I have ever regretted buying.

Well SKyWarp I thought it was a good topic, and good digibash too!!

C'mon, Metroplex isn't that bad. The robot mode is ridiculously good with tons of articulation. If you want to hate it because of the alt. mode, that I can understand. To call the entire offering garbage simply isn't true though. For me, buying Transformers has always been about great looking robot modes. Yes, even Generation One. The alt. mode has always come second to me. A far second at that. Just think, a Devestator as posable as Metroplex is? That's an easy sell to me. Don't think I'm saying your opinion isn't valid because well, it's how you honestly feel. I'm just trying to point out the good things in the figure. Yes, there are some good things.

Justicity wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:No, it looks intresting on that pic but so did the original version.

I hate that mold very disapointing and well crap.

I want a real classics dev, with Six bots and looking a bit more G1 ish I never had a Dev so that's what I want.

Yeah, you are right, it's high time we get a G-1 Accurate Devestator with each bot being a voyager size, and once comnined they need articulation and ratcheted joints for superior stability and posing!!! Also he should have a posable head!!

Six bots, voyager sized.... hrrrm... 6 sets of £20.... isn't that £120??? Quite expensive... Nice idea though.

well not if you buy them or they are sold seperately, then it's just get one at a time and once you have them all you can combine them into Devestator.. besides if they sold them as a set, I highly doubt they would scharge full price of one times 6, the most I could see it retail for is 80.00 to 90.00 USD

besides your not just buying Devastator, your buying each individual constructicon, whose got articulation and the best ever representation they have ever been in..because of the being voyager class...

I am so friggin sick and tired of seeing Devastator everywhere I look...

NO! He shouldn't be remolded from Metroplex, it's bad enough we got micromaster Devastator, Universe Devastator and Classics Devastator (and the Energon combiner team that was an obvious homage to Devastator) all in the past few years.

My god, sometimes it feels like it's 1984 every year. All fans ever seem to want are the same old characters over and over again...

That just rocks, I'm surprised that haven't already done a repaint of him.

Err...why not repaint and remold him into Fortress Maximus?

Cyb, Metroplex is a really nice figure IMHO. I mean his robot mode, is very poseable, and articulated. He's got lots of minicon ports to add firepower, and has lots of potential. So his Alt mode is kinda lacking. I just never transform him into his Alt mode. Instead I've given him a Star Cruiser and a City Mode, you can see them here

He's way more than just his alt mode. If you take the time too actually transform him, and play around with him, you'll notice that he is a much better figure than everybody gives him credit for.

With that said, I totally don't think he should be repainted into Devastator colours. We've had enough devastators already. I think a Metrotitan color scheme, or even an Omega Supreme color scheme would work better for him. He's already gotten the helmeted visor head there. So it wouldn't be too hard.

Airlift wrote:That just rocks, I'm surprised that haven't already done a repaint of him.

yeah I don't think it would be that bad... i mean I personally like the Metroplex look.. but it could use some other construction type stuff added to him.. I think his staff should have a winch hook on the end instead of the shovel..

But I don't know, i don't think it's be all that bad.. i wasn't a fan of Classics devastator.. he just didn't really appeal to me.. the original design was the best.. the Metroplex body as a base, if modified could become a pretty cool homage, al be it, without the combiner gestalt ability.. but likeness and playability would be high.. instead of just the combbiner gimmick and basically a statue, that is very much the same size as Prime....come on!!! Metroplex is the right size and blocky enough to get the job done.. but yeah, he needs som changes and more then my Digibash could do..

I think that there is a kitbash of this guy made into fort max. I think that fits him best. I will try to find the link

Skowl wrote:My god, sometimes it feels like it's 1984 every year. All fans ever seem to want are the same old characters over and over again...

I don't think it's so much that we want to see the same characters over and over again, but that we would like to finally have definitive versions of the originals.

I know that's what I would like. Give me a Devastator that looks as close to possible as the original in the cartoon, with as much poseability as possible. Same goes for pretty much every other character. I think that is why the classic seekers are loved so much. They are almost perfect to their cartoon counterparts.

And I think your digibash looks great skywarp-2. I would definitely consider getting that.

Someone already did the fortress maximus kitbash. Don't remember were I saw it I'm sure someone on here could point you to the link.

Geekee1 wrote:

Skowl wrote:My god, sometimes it feels like it's 1984 every year. All fans ever seem to want are the same old characters over and over again...

I don't think it's so much that we want to see the same characters over and over again, but that we would like to finally have definitive versions of the originals.

I know that's what I would like. Give me a Devastator that looks as close to possible as the original in the cartoon, with as much poseability as possible. Same goes for pretty much every other character. I think that is why the classic seekers are loved so much. They are almost perfect to their cartoon counterparts.

And I think your digibash looks great skywarp-2. I would definitely consider getting that.

thanks man!! you just summed up pretty much my whole reasoning for trying to do that digibash in the first place... if they can't do it right and give us a reasonable gestalt, with voyagers, then damnit, give us one bigass bot that looks like it is supposed to in botmode, with a huge construction machine in altmode!! that's all we ask..give us one or the other!!!

I say kudos for the didibash.

I also say no to the idea of having Metroplex as Devestator.

Hasbro need to take a page from the IDW comics, and feature some of the other combiner teams.

i_amtrunks wrote:I say kudos for the didibash.

I also say no to the idea of having Metroplex as Devestator.

Hasbro need to take a page from the IDW comics, and feature some of the other combiner teams.

I agree maybe Metroplex can't become Devestator, but they should do him right...

I disagree that other combiner teams should come out, until a G-1 accurate Devastator is finally produced.. then My vote after that would be for a Freaking updated and voyager, combiner/gestalt of the one and only.....

Predaking!!!!

Too many Devastators? We only got what, 5 total? G1, G2, Energon, Universe and Classics. That's only five in 20+ years. Now, how many Bumblebee did we get in the past year? 8! 1 Classics and 7 Movie (not even counting the non-transformable ones)!

About 7 devastators since G1. Bumblebee on the other hand, hadn't gotten another mold release since G1.

Classics was the first time we saw Bumblebee in anything but his G1 VW beetle mold.

Movie comes out and we get ohh about 5 different Bumblebees.

Maybe a littler too much. but Devastator has gotten a lot of moulds in the past few years.

And Devastator should always be a combiner. never a single robot. Just like Menasor should always be a combiner, not a drilling machine like in cybertron.

Overcracker wrote:About 7 devastators since G1. Bumblebee on the other hand, hadn't gotten another mold release since G1.

Classics was the first time we saw Bumblebee in anything but his G1 VW beetle mold.

Movie comes out and we get ohh about 5 different Bumblebees.

Maybe a littler too much. but Devastator has gotten a lot of moulds in the past few years.

And Devastator should always be a combiner. never a single robot. Just like Menasor should always be a combiner, not a drilling machine like in cybertron.

Hmm, true, but Bumblebee technicly had four G1 molds: Original, Goldbug(it's the same character), Pretender, and Action Master. Oh yeah, and a Decoy(but not counting that one).

And the Devastator digibash does look awsome.

A) your bash looks good

B) I would probably pass on it just because his alt mode looks like he's gettin ready to take it up the tail pipe...

Let's face it.

Anything aside from a set of 6 Voyager class cons that combine into Devestator is just not going to add up to the big D.

Why I wouldn't support this idea? It isn't enough. Sure, it looks good, but in the end, we would have one more band-aid attempt to give us what we really want.

Big ass combiners.

Counterpunch wrote:Let's face it.

Anything aside from a set of 6 Voyager class cons that combine into Devestator is just not going to add up to the big D.

Why I wouldn't support this idea? It isn't enough. Sure, it looks good, but in the end, we would have one more band-aid attempt to give us what we really want.

Big ass combiners.

QFT.

Heck I'd be happy with a combiner with deluxe limbs and a voyager center piece. In the case of Devastator 6 deluxe sized parts.

Counterpunch wrote:Let's face it.

Anything aside from a set of 6 Voyager class cons that combine into Devestator is just not going to add up to the big D.

Why I wouldn't support this idea? It isn't enough. Sure, it looks good, but in the end, we would have one more band-aid attempt to give us what we really want.

Big ass combiners.

that is why I completely support 6 highly detailed and highly posable combiners in Voyager class..each sold seperately or in a Gift pack..

The voyagers each, would have to be bought, and then you could assmeble Devastator!! And he would be massive, but would also have high amounts of Articulation!! Hasbro would sell out almost immediately.. and if you think it's tooo expensive, then just consider how much Marvel legends figures cost and you have to buy the whole series to put together a sentinel or something like that...so I don't see a real difference...

Hasbro should institute their own Masterpiece Line up, and do the Devastator, forget waiting on Takara Tomy to release one, they have already done Hasbro a Favor with the Optimus and Starscream molds, so why doesn't Hasbro do their own Masterpiece line up? We know they are capable of doing it... they did the movie toys..and that was hard to figure out in itself...

either way, Voyagers of the Constructicons equals 20.00 times 6...but they are characters that could back up your MP Megatron... or once alll assembled, you could have your MP Megatron on Piggy back pointing outwards in attack!! Pricelsss!!!!! I would buy a shelf just for them!!!

Heck we spend 20.00 on voyagers anyways, why not buy the individual constructicons themselves, and once your done you get that Bonus figure of Devastator!!!


Or do a "Hauler" robotic machine thingy that has 5 construction vehicles on it's back, only they don't detach... then as the thing transforms, it turns into a good and completely accurate Devastator in Bot Mode.. similar to how they combined the Titaniums Ultra Magnus trailer to the bot itself... so you'd think to look at it, that the truck thing is hauling all those construction vehicles, but in reality the whole thing is Devastator!!!

It would save Hasbro Money, and us to do him that way, versus the 6 Voyagers...only I would rather do it the hard and expensive way.. I want the full effect and not a Bandaide.....

But if that's what I had to choose from versus the Classics Devastator... I'd choose the damn "one piece Hauler" with the constructicons already combined in over the classics one any day!!! that thing didn't look at all like G-1 Devastator!!! also combining them into one massive toy, would give it better articualtion and stability over the actual Gestalt voyager class (unless improvements to the ratchet joint systems were made) or the crummy legends class classics figure!!!

A good retool and some paint combined w/3-6 bulldozer minicons it would be a great con exclusive.

I currently have 2 Devastators and id love to get one like that.

Overcracker wrote:About 7 devastators since G1. Bumblebee on the other hand, hadn't gotten another mold release since G1.

Classics was the first time we saw Bumblebee in anything but his G1 VW beetle mold.

Movie comes out and we get ohh about 5 different Bumblebees.

Maybe a littler too much. but Devastator has gotten a lot of moulds in the past few years.

And Devastator should always be a combiner. never a single robot. Just like Menasor should always be a combiner, not a drilling machine like in cybertron.

Agreed but I liked the idea behind Titanium Menasor, of course it's never a substitute for a real combiner...

Ah, a classics Menasor. One can dream...