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orangeitis wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Gojira101 wrote:Did anyone watch the video? I'm wondering if there are magnets at play. For example when he transformers Lazerbeak or when he puts it on SW arm and shoulder. Made me think of those Bakugon type toys and all the possible uses te magnets could maybe have. Just a thought, like launching the cassette using
Magnetic force and having it instantly transformer as it does so.

They hid the Condor transformation from us. One guy transformed it while another guy covered it up with his hands so we wouldn't see how it transforms.

It don't seem that hard to figure it out though. From condor mode:

-Turn the wings forward, then fold them in
-Pull the silver weapon mounts to his sides, over the wing joints
-Fold the weapon mount wings downward to wrap completely around
-Straighten legs out, then turn feet around
-Push head in

Seems pretty simple IMO.

It went from tape to bird, and was an unpainted gray prototype.

Sabrblade wrote:

orangeitis wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Gojira101 wrote:Did anyone watch the video? I'm wondering if there are magnets at play. For example when he transformers Lazerbeak or when he puts it on SW arm and shoulder. Made me think of those Bakugon type toys and all the possible uses te magnets could maybe have. Just a thought, like launching the cassette using
Magnetic force and having it instantly transformer as it does so.

They hid the Condor transformation from us. One guy transformed it while another guy covered it up with his hands so we wouldn't see how it transforms.

It don't seem that hard to figure it out though. From condor mode:

-Turn the wings forward, then fold them in
-Pull the silver weapon mounts to his sides, over the wing joints
-Fold the weapon mount wings downward to wrap completely around
-Straighten legs out, then turn feet around
-Push head in

Seems pretty simple IMO.

It went from tape to bird, and was an unpainted gray prototype.

Irrelevant to my point, but okay. =D

Yeah but wouldn't it be more interesting if the reason they hid the transformation was to protect the extra gimmick. While this maybe a far fetched hypothesis it would be much more interesting way for lazerbeak to transform. Also I remember listening to an interview that the designer made mention that he had an idea that would allow the tapes to eject and transformer. If that stuff Bakugon can do it why not Transformers. Again still a theory of mine.

By the way..... WE'RE GETTING AN MP SOUNDWAVE!!!

Gojira101 wrote:Also I remember listening to an interview that the designer made mention that he had an idea that would allow the tapes to eject and transformer. If that stuff Bakugon can do it why not Transformers. Again still a theory of mine.

That's for Generations Voyager FoC Soundwave. His Diskicons will be able to launch from his chest and autotransform.

At the risk of throwing a negative into the ring with what in terms of design and engineering, look like amazing figures (I haven't been this excited about TFs in a while and tbh I'm not sure if I'm more excited about the "uncruzimatik bore" or the fact that we're finally getting in scale MP Autobot cars); I'm not happy with the way TakaraTomy have handled them on the marketing end of things.

We all know that there are exclusives and with this mould, I completely expected an exclusive Clampdown, Deepcover and Tigertrack. I could even understand a G2 Sideswipe exclusive out of the mold. Heck, if they wanted to go with extras, the idea of bonus coins is a great way to go too, like what robotkingdom is doing.

But for the love of Primus, don't gut every single release but the store exclusive of some of their accessories. At this stage (and please feel free to jump in on the first one if I'm wrong) Soundwave looks like he'll only come with energon cubes as the exclusive version, and Sideswipe is missing his secondary pile drivers (jackhammer versions). If they were going to be made, then that should be the very territory that simply never gets explored. At the risk of invoking the Transformers version of Godwin's Law, I would have thought that both Hasbro and Takara would have learned from Hasbro's mistake with the Games of Deception Boxset.

On top of that, they give the exclusive to an online retailer in Japan that doesn't ship internationally, when they'd know full well that their International customer base for Masterpieces is potentially the whole of Hasro's adult Transformers fan demographic.

I realise that robotkingdom is getting in a limited quantity of these (which due to the limited quantities only a partial workaround), but the problem there is you have to pay for your orders up front, even if they're 6 months away. So in this case, if you wont have the money now but have budgeted for them at the end of the year; you're screwed.


Honestly, I think the lesson TakaraTomy need to take from this is that their engineering and design teams should be allowed to let loose as much as possible with future releases because all they touch appears to be gold. However at the same time, their marketting department needs to be kept on a VERY tight leash in terms of "great ideas".

Just a FYI, if you pre-ordered Sideswipe from BBTS, you may want to check your pre-order. It looks like they didn't automatically send out the discount. Mine was at the old $94.99, and now the price is $83.99.

Check your orders!

Bowspearer wrote:At the risk of throwing a negative into the ring with what in terms of design and engineering, look like amazing figures (I haven't been this excited about TFs in a while and tbh I'm not sure if I'm more excited about the "uncruzimatik bore" or the fact that we're finally getting in scale MP Autobot cars); I'm not happy with the way TakaraTomy have handled them on the marketing end of things.

We all know that there are exclusives and with this mould, I completely expected an exclusive Clampdown, Deepcover and Tigertrack. I could even understand a G2 Sideswipe exclusive out of the mold. Heck, if they wanted to go with extras, the idea of bonus coins is a great way to go too, like what robotkingdom is doing.

But for the love of Primus, don't gut every single release but the store exclusive of some of their accessories. At this stage (and please feel free to jump in on the first one if I'm wrong) Soundwave looks like he'll only come with energon cubes as the exclusive version, and Sideswipe is missing his secondary pile drivers (jackhammer versions). If they were going to be made, then that should be the very territory that simply never gets explored. At the risk of invoking the Transformers version of Godwin's Law, I would have thought that both Hasbro and Takara would have learned from Hasbro's mistake with the Games of Deception Boxset.

On top of that, they give the exclusive to an online retailer in Japan that doesn't ship internationally, when they'd know full well that their International customer base for Masterpieces is potentially the whole of Hasro's adult Transformers fan demographic.

I realise that robotkingdom is getting in a limited quantity of these (which due to the limited quantities only a partial workaround), but the problem there is you have to pay for your orders up front, even if they're 6 months away. So in this case, if you wont have the money now but have budgeted for them at the end of the year; you're screwed.


Honestly, I think the lesson TakaraTomy need to take from this is that their engineering and design teams should be allowed to let loose as much as possible with future releases because all they touch appears to be gold. However at the same time, their marketting department needs to be kept on a VERY tight leash in terms of "great ideas".

This is just a gut feeling - the jackhammers will probably come with Red Alert, and they'll probably be a different color, such as gold or chromed red.

Actually if we got black jackhammers, I'd be happy, as I'm not a fan of them being chromed.

Actually one criticism of Soundwave I have is that he doesn't appear to have the same attention to detail as say, Laserbeak, where the camera appears to have been factored in. Two things that I would have liked to have seen with Soundwave are his mechanised spy mic and his head-mounted retractable telepathic beam emitter. Granted the beam emitter to my knowlledge only showed up in War of the Dinobots, but the spy mic had multiple appearances in the catrroon and is really his equivalent of an alternate arm appendage.

Looking at the pictures I noticed something strange. It looks like Sideswipe, Soundwave and Red Alert all have the same hands and they are the same hands as MP-10 Optimus Prime. Not that it matters, just something I happened to notice.

Trikeboy wrote:Looking at the pictures I noticed something strange. It looks like Sideswipe, Soundwave and Red Alert all have the same hands and they are the same hands as MP-10 Optimus Prime. Not that it matters, just something I happened to notice.

It's okay buddy. We got the same hands too I hope right? It's okay if our toys share the same qualities. They're just trying to spread the brolove.

Blurrz wrote:

Trikeboy wrote:Looking at the pictures I noticed something strange. It looks like Sideswipe, Soundwave and Red Alert all have the same hands and they are the same hands as MP-10 Optimus Prime. Not that it matters, just something I happened to notice.

It's okay buddy. We got the same hands too I hope right? It's okay if our toys share the same qualities. They're just trying to spread the brolove.

I hope you don't touch yourself with my hands then . I was just surprised that there wasn't some kind of remolding going on with these two.

Trikeboy wrote:

Blurrz wrote:

Trikeboy wrote:Looking at the pictures I noticed something strange. It looks like Sideswipe, Soundwave and Red Alert all have the same hands and they are the same hands as MP-10 Optimus Prime. Not that it matters, just something I happened to notice.

It's okay buddy. We got the same hands too I hope right? It's okay if our toys share the same qualities. They're just trying to spread the brolove.

I hope you don't touch yourself with my hands then . I was just surprised that there wasn't some kind of remolding going on with these two.

They do look very similar, but Soundwave's hands seem to have an extra joint on the index finger.
Apart from that though, they look identical.

Dead Metal wrote:

Trikeboy wrote:

Blurrz wrote:

Trikeboy wrote:Looking at the pictures I noticed something strange. It looks like Sideswipe, Soundwave and Red Alert all have the same hands and they are the same hands as MP-10 Optimus Prime. Not that it matters, just something I happened to notice.

It's okay buddy. We got the same hands too I hope right? It's okay if our toys share the same qualities. They're just trying to spread the brolove.

I hope you don't touch yourself with my hands then . I was just surprised that there wasn't some kind of remolding going on with these two.

They do look very similar, but Soundwave's hands seem to have an extra joint on the index finger.
Apart from that though, they look identical.

You are right, on closer inspection, Soundwave has Optimus Prime's hands Sideswipe and Red Alert don't have the extra joint on the index finger. I wish they would do away with the fixed thumb though.

Trikeboy wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:

Trikeboy wrote:

Blurrz wrote:

Trikeboy wrote:Looking at the pictures I noticed something strange. It looks like Sideswipe, Soundwave and Red Alert all have the same hands and they are the same hands as MP-10 Optimus Prime. Not that it matters, just something I happened to notice.

It's okay buddy. We got the same hands too I hope right? It's okay if our toys share the same qualities. They're just trying to spread the brolove.

I hope you don't touch yourself with my hands then . I was just surprised that there wasn't some kind of remolding going on with these two.

They do look very similar, but Soundwave's hands seem to have an extra joint on the index finger.
Apart from that though, they look identical.

You are right, on closer inspection, Soundwave has Optimus Prime's hands Sideswipe and Red Alert don't have the extra joint on the index finger. I wish they would do away with the fixed thumb though.

Personally I'm waiting on a 3rd Party company to make better hands, ala Gundam or the like, even if they would be snap-together kits.

I'm looking at you iGear.

Dead Metal wrote:

Trikeboy wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:

Trikeboy wrote:

Blurrz wrote:

Trikeboy wrote:Looking at the pictures I noticed something strange. It looks like Sideswipe, Soundwave and Red Alert all have the same hands and they are the same hands as MP-10 Optimus Prime. Not that it matters, just something I happened to notice.

It's okay buddy. We got the same hands too I hope right? It's okay if our toys share the same qualities. They're just trying to spread the brolove.

I hope you don't touch yourself with my hands then . I was just surprised that there wasn't some kind of remolding going on with these two.

They do look very similar, but Soundwave's hands seem to have an extra joint on the index finger.
Apart from that though, they look identical.

You are right, on closer inspection, Soundwave has Optimus Prime's hands Sideswipe and Red Alert don't have the extra joint on the index finger. I wish they would do away with the fixed thumb though.

Personally I'm waiting on a 3rd Party company to make better hands, ala Gundam or the like, even if they would be snap-together kits.

I'm looking at you iGear.

You could probably suggest that to Fakebusker83 over on TFW2005. Ariel has awesome stuff on shapeways, including hands.

Trikeboy wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:

Trikeboy wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:

Trikeboy wrote:

Blurrz wrote:

Trikeboy wrote:Looking at the pictures I noticed something strange. It looks like Sideswipe, Soundwave and Red Alert all have the same hands and they are the same hands as MP-10 Optimus Prime. Not that it matters, just something I happened to notice.

It's okay buddy. We got the same hands too I hope right? It's okay if our toys share the same qualities. They're just trying to spread the brolove.

I hope you don't touch yourself with my hands then . I was just surprised that there wasn't some kind of remolding going on with these two.

They do look very similar, but Soundwave's hands seem to have an extra joint on the index finger.
Apart from that though, they look identical.

You are right, on closer inspection, Soundwave has Optimus Prime's hands Sideswipe and Red Alert don't have the extra joint on the index finger. I wish they would do away with the fixed thumb though.

Personally I'm waiting on a 3rd Party company to make better hands, ala Gundam or the like, even if they would be snap-together kits.

I'm looking at you iGear.

You could probably suggest that to Fakebusker83 over on TFW2005. Ariel has awesome stuff on shapeways, including hands.

I would prefer plastic cast hands instead of the materials Shapeways has to offer.
They would feel better, and look better too, plus they would be in the right colour from the start.

Comparing the MP-10 that I have with the pics, I can confirm the hand molds differ from that of Primes.

wewyllenium wrote:Comparing the MP-10 that I have with the pics, I can confirm the hand molds differ from that of Primes.

Agreed. MP-10 has rivets on the backs of his hands, which these don't.
Theses do look like fixed position thumbs.

Regarding those hands, there was a report recently about a new 3rd party company U.F.O. which copied some Shapeways designs but in ABS plastics which may work if customized?

Here's a good look at the colored Soundwave figure

That's just beautiful...

Anyone else realized we can get a G2 Soundwave AND Soundblaster repaints like we got with the Masterpiece seekers?

MasterSoundBlaster wrote:That's just beautiful...

Anyone else realized we can get a G2 Soundwave AND Soundblaster repaints like we got with the Masterpiece seekers?

But the only G2 Soundwave was the Go-Bots one, and he was a car.

Sabrblade wrote:

MasterSoundBlaster wrote:That's just beautiful...

Anyone else realized we can get a G2 Soundwave AND Soundblaster repaints like we got with the Masterpiece seekers?

But the only G2 Soundwave was the Go-Bots one, and he was a car.

G2 comics,he was purple.

Wasn't he? Or is that a different timeline?

MasterSoundBlaster wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

MasterSoundBlaster wrote:That's just beautiful...

Anyone else realized we can get a G2 Soundwave AND Soundblaster repaints like we got with the Masterpiece seekers?

But the only G2 Soundwave was the Go-Bots one, and he was a car.

G2 comics,he was purple.

Wasn't he? Or is that a different timeline?

Well, yes, but he was purple in the whole U.S. Marvel Comics run, G1 and G2 (though, Marvel UK had him correctly colored blue).