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News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:57 am

They existed at a time when things like that just weren't common. Had visionaries came out a few years later they would have likely seen a mega drive/snes game as a cross promotion. After their doomed release no one card enough and even now I just can't see a point, you may as well go play some good rpg games instead.

News Credits: 11 · by **primalxconvoy** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 8:07 am

True. However, I wonder why they didn't release the animals or summoned totems?

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:51 am

Might have been poor sales, I've never looked that deeply into the visionaries so for all I know there might have been plans if fate was kinder to them

News Credits: 11 · by **primalxconvoy** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:55 am

I would have thought just a smaller, non-poseable, transparent coloured animal would have been a good idea. The Real Ghostbusters figures came with similar "ghosts", didn't they?

News Credits: 6 · by **AllNewSuperRobot** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:50 pm

They were just little knights with holograms. The holograms were the selling point, not what the hologram represented. It's a weird marketing angle to consider now, but it wasn't a toyline that was supposed to be that deep and involved to begin with. The vehicles were cool though.

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:36 pm

The hologram thing was big at the time though but realistically, they were fancy stickers...the gimmick was fancy stickers.

News Credits: 6 · by **AllNewSuperRobot** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:56 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:The hologram thing was big at the time though but realistically, they were fancy stickers...the gimmick was fancy stickers.

Yep. The toyline was very basic and generic without the stickers. Only slight variations with the figures: colour, armour decal design, head sculpt etc Otherwise they were all standardised and interchangeable. I'm probably even remembering the vehicles being better than they actually were.

News Credits: 650 · by **ScottyP** » Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:30 am

ZeroWolf wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:
"...the panel above of Leoric guaranteed to wash away any desire you had left to see the 80s cartoon Burt Reynolds looking version of the character..."

Nope.

I think it's completely possibly to bring back a design that homages they original look, without it looking cheesy.

That’s certainly a tall order, personally his redesign is one of the best things about this comic...it might be the only good thing about it actually.

ZeroWolf gets to the point of what I was trying to say here

I think Leoric's new look is fantastic! He's got this fierceness to him that gives him battle credibility - which the story promptly destroys, unfortunately. Regardless, he looks like he just stepped out of a franchise like Dragonball or Street Fighter, then donned some Spectral Knight gear, and is now ready to seriously kick butt.

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:46 pm

ScottyP wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:
"...the panel above of Leoric guaranteed to wash away any desire you had left to see the 80s cartoon Burt Reynolds looking version of the character..."

Nope.

I think it's completely possibly to bring back a design that homages they original look, without it looking cheesy.

That’s certainly a tall order, personally his redesign is one of the best things about this comic...it might be the only good thing about it actually.
ZeroWolf gets to the point of what I was trying to say here I think Leoric's new look is fantastic! He's got this fierceness to him that gives him battle credibility - which the story promptly destroys, unfortunately. Regardless, he looks like he just stepped out of a franchise like Dragonball or Street Fighter, then donned some Spectral Knight gear, and is now ready to seriously kick butt.

There would have been a fair few fighting games where his look would fit in just fine, like darkstalkers or guardian heroes. Maybe this series can turn it around to something readable, I want to have faith in the writers. The story missteps though are shaking it

News Credits: 650 · by **ScottyP** » Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:34 pm

^ I hear that. It wouldn't shock me if they only really outlined enough plot to cover two issues then stretched it out to cover a TPB's worth of content. This is what I'm telling myself to try and keep some faith that the end might be good.

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Mon Feb 12, 2018 2:45 pm

ScottyP wrote:^ I hear that. It wouldn't shock me if they only really outlined enough plot to cover two issues then stretched it out to cover a TPB's worth of content. This is what I'm telling myself to try and keep some faith that the end might be good.

I'll be down here waiting in the Gutter of Disappointment to console you.

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Mon Feb 12, 2018 3:42 pm

Burn wrote:
ScottyP wrote:^ I hear that. It wouldn't shock me if they only really outlined enough plot to cover two issues then stretched it out to cover a TPB's worth of content. This is what I'm telling myself to try and keep some faith that the end might be good.

I'll be down here waiting in the Gutter of Disappointment to console you.

If you're there for ScottyP do I have to book a place?

by **ThunderThruster** » Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:00 pm

I think the old designs can work quite well in modern media, the key is using the appropriate style to do so.

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:00 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:
Burn wrote:
ScottyP wrote:^ I hear that. It wouldn't shock me if they only really outlined enough plot to cover two issues then stretched it out to cover a TPB's worth of content. This is what I'm telling myself to try and keep some faith that the end might be good.

I'll be down here waiting in the Gutter of Disappointment to console you.

If you're there for ScottyP do I have to book a place?

nah, it's a 24/7 gutter party!

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:13 pm

ThunderThruster wrote:I think the old designs can work quite well in modern media, the key is using the appropriate style to do so.

What's that from? It looks garish and also a little like he's taken primes colour scheme.

@burn gutter party? I'll bring the drink :twisted:

News Credits: 11 · by **primalxconvoy** » Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:26 pm

ThunderThruster wrote:I think the old designs can work quite well in modern media, the key is using the appropriate style to do so.

I agree. Perhaps a few adjustments here and there, and we could have an aesthetic that was a more modern representation of the original look.

by **ThunderThruster** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:00 am

ZeroWolf wrote:
ThunderThruster wrote:I think the old designs can work quite well in modern media, the key is using the appropriate style to do so.

What's that from? It looks garish and also a little like he's taken primes colour scheme.

@burn gutter party? I'll bring the drink

That's Spectral Knight Cryotek, who has always had that colour scheme.

: Cryotek.jpg (15.84 KiB) Viewed 13582 times

Not sure whether it's fan art/comic but it is in french.

News Credits: 650 · by **ScottyP** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:21 am

We have "Cryotek" in the gutter! But it's the Transformers one*

*It's the blue repaint of Prime Beast Hunters Voyager Predaking. This is the gutter of disappointment after all.

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:05 am

I liked that predaking mold...for about 5 mins...

@Sorry ThunderThruster but I still don't think the designs hold up, especially when juxtaposed with the IDW tfs... (which again they shouldn't be but what can you do)

by **ThunderThruster** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:22 pm

Always more than one way to get from A - B

News Credits: 11 · by **primalxconvoy** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:04 pm

Thank you! I was googling new redesigns to Visionaries characters, but couldn't find them.

News Credits: 16 · by **Daniel Adkins** » Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:20 pm

https://twitter.com/HasbroUPodcast/stat ... 9991549952

Kinda surprised no one's posted this yet. We get some cool cameos for Visionaries fans. And Cryotek finally shows up!

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Sat Feb 17, 2018 3:39 am

Daniel Adkins wrote:https://twitter.com/HasbroUPodcast/status/964102559991549952

Kinda surprised no one's posted this yet. We get some cool cameos for Visionaries fans. And Cryotek finally shows up!

We always appreciate a tip, thank you!

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Sat Feb 17, 2018 4:05 am

From the regular iTunes source, and via a tip from fellow Seibertronian Daniel Adkins, we have a three-page preview of another IDW Publishing comic featuring Transformers (barely) due out on the 28th of February, bringing the total of issues to cover (preview and review-wise) that week to four: the third chapter in the mini-series of Transformers vs Visionaries!

Take a look at the mirrored pages below, and join the discussion as we see more of Virulina's plan to power take hold over some Spectral Knights too, and the first appearance of a Cryotek character in this new universe for the franchises.

The clock is ticking! Leoric finds himself exiled from New Prysmos by Virulina, who Merklynn has named the new leader of all the Visionaries. Can Leoric and his loyalists save Cybertron from being totally changed into a new homeworld for his people? Should they?