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News Credits: 331 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Sat May 24, 2014 12:49 am

So basically you can get the Evasion mode Prime with chrome, and a faceplate, in the two pack with Grimlock

OR

Evasion mode Prime without chrome, closer G1 robot mode, with flames, and a faceplate with the 6th or 7th domestic release of the Classic Prime mold, with chrome. Don't know about you but I'm having a hard time figuring out which set I want.

by **Downbeat** » Sat May 24, 2014 12:56 am

Well, I still don't have that classics Optimus mold, and was never able to get any of its other releases. Very, very tempted by this two pack.

News Credits: 3600 · by **Seibertron** » Sat May 24, 2014 12:57 am

chuckdawg1999 wrote:So basically you can get the Evasion mode Prime with chrome, and a faceplate, in the two pack with Grimlock

OR

Evasion mode Prime without chrome, closer G1 robot mode, with flames, and a faceplate with the 6th or 7th domestic release of the Classic Prime mold, with chrome. Don't know about you but I'm having a hard time figuring out which set I want.

I feel like the confusion about which product you prefer is part of the business strategy with all of these repaints. Somewhere in these, if you mix and match parts, is the perfect versions of each of these molds. Curious to see what people come up with.

News Credits: 3600 · by **Seibertron** » Sat May 24, 2014 1:04 am

This is going to be crazy for the galleries by the way ... I finally have my hands on Crystal Convoy, I never did the gallery of Henkei Ultra Magnus, we've got Fire Guts Ginrai coming out and now this one. Oh! And Cloud Convoy as well. 5 galleries of one mold 8 years after it was released after having been so used in the past. Very interesting!

News Credits: 331 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Sat May 24, 2014 1:05 am

Seibertron wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:So basically you can get the Evasion mode Prime with chrome, and a faceplate, in the two pack with Grimlock

OR

Evasion mode Prime without chrome, closer G1 robot mode, with flames, and a faceplate with the 6th or 7th domestic release of the Classic Prime mold, with chrome. Don't know about you but I'm having a hard time figuring out which set I want.

I feel like the confusion about which product you prefer is part of the business strategy with all of these repaints. Somewhere in these, if you mix and match parts, is the perfect versions of each of these molds. Curious to see what people come up with.

I'm just wondering what condition that classic Prime mold is in, I'm expecting much looseness.

News Credits: 331 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Sat May 24, 2014 1:07 am

Seibertron wrote:This is going to be crazy for the galleries by the way ... I finally have my hands on Crystal Convoy, I never did the gallery of Henkei Ultra Magnus, we've got Fire Guts Ginrai coming out and now this one. Oh! And Cloud Convoy as well. 5 galleries of one mold 8 years after it was released after having been so used in the past. Very interesting!

Don't forget Bot Con shattered glass, and the two black versions!

News Credits: 3600 · by **Seibertron** » Sat May 24, 2014 1:08 am

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I'm just wondering what condition that classic Prime mold is in, I'm expecting much looseness.

I love this comment from people. After 30 uses of the Classics Starscream mold, I think we should be able to finally move away from this thought process about molds degrading after time. Those molds are amazing and they will last the test of time. The only question should really be whether or not the original mold was made of "sturdy stuff" or made from a lesser material that gives way after time.

by **Shadowstream** » Sat May 24, 2014 1:09 am

I'm of two minds about this, as on one side it's the same old classics prime mold for the umpteenth time and as much as I like the mold I'm still waiting for someone to one-up it IME, but... DEM CHROME PANTS! :ic$:

News Credits: 3600 · by **Seibertron** » Sat May 24, 2014 1:14 am

chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Seibertron wrote:This is going to be crazy for the galleries by the way ... I finally have my hands on Crystal Convoy, I never did the gallery of Henkei Ultra Magnus, we've got Fire Guts Ginrai coming out and now this one. Oh! And Cloud Convoy as well. 5 galleries of one mold 8 years after it was released after having been so used in the past. Very interesting!

Don't forget Bot Con shattered glass, and the two black versions!

I think you misread what I wrote. I was only talking about galleries that haven't been completed yet. All 3 of the ones you mentioned have had their galleries completed long ago.

News Credits: 331 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Sat May 24, 2014 1:16 am

Seibertron wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I'm just wondering what condition that classic Prime mold is in, I'm expecting much looseness.

I love this comment from people. After 30 uses of the Classics Starscream mold, I think we should be able to finally move away from this thought process about molds degrading after time. Those molds are amazing and they will last the test of time. The only question should really be whether or not the original mold was made of "sturdy stuff" or made from a lesser material that gives way after time.

My classics Ramjet was loose out of the package. Thundercracker, Dirge, and Thrust from Games of Deception all had loose legs. Target Legion Smokescreen and BH Bluestreak were both loose messes. Bluestreak in particular had issues with the arms staying clipped in. It can't all be bad luck. Then again it could, it's me.

News Credits: 3600 · by **Seibertron** » Sat May 24, 2014 1:20 am

chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Seibertron wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I'm just wondering what condition that classic Prime mold is in, I'm expecting much looseness.

I love this comment from people. After 30 uses of the Classics Starscream mold, I think we should be able to finally move away from this thought process about molds degrading after time. Those molds are amazing and they will last the test of time. The only question should really be whether or not the original mold was made of "sturdy stuff" or made from a lesser material that gives way after time.

My classics Ramjet was loose out of the package. Thundercracker, Dirge, and Thrust from Games of Deception all had loose legs. Target Legion Smokescreen and BH Bluestreak were both loose messes. Bluestreak in particular had issues with the arms staying clipped in. It can't all be bad luck. Then again it could, it's me.

Sounds like bad luck. I don't have those issues with any of those figures. Classics Ramjet wouldn't even make sense of mold degradation since it was the 2nd use of the mold out of "30" times (which is arguable if you want to debate that the mold was split off at some point to do the "Conehead" variants).

News Credits: 331 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Sat May 24, 2014 1:20 am

Seibertron wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Seibertron wrote:This is going to be crazy for the galleries by the way ... I finally have my hands on Crystal Convoy, I never did the gallery of Henkei Ultra Magnus, we've got Fire Guts Ginrai coming out and now this one. Oh! And Cloud Convoy as well. 5 galleries of one mold 8 years after it was released after having been so used in the past. Very interesting!

Don't forget Bot Con shattered glass, and the two black versions!

I think you misread what I wrote. I was only talking about galleries that haven't been completed yet. All 3 of the ones you mentioned have had their galleries completed long ago.

It's been awhile, I forgot, lol

News Credits: 331 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Sat May 24, 2014 1:27 am

Seibertron wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Seibertron wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I'm just wondering what condition that classic Prime mold is in, I'm expecting much looseness.

I love this comment from people. After 30 uses of the Classics Starscream mold, I think we should be able to finally move away from this thought process about molds degrading after time. Those molds are amazing and they will last the test of time. The only question should really be whether or not the original mold was made of "sturdy stuff" or made from a lesser material that gives way after time.

My classics Ramjet was loose out of the package. Thundercracker, Dirge, and Thrust from Games of Deception all had loose legs. Target Legion Smokescreen and BH Bluestreak were both loose messes. Bluestreak in particular had issues with the arms staying clipped in. It can't all be bad luck. Then again it could, it's me.

Sounds like bad luck. I don't have those issues with any of those figures. Classics Ramjet wouldn't even make sense of mold degradation since it was the 2nd use of the mold out of "30" times (which is arguable if you want to debate that the mold was split off at some point to do the "Conehead" variants).

I don't think I could have all that bad luck, especially considering that retail Thrust and Dirge were made from a second production mold and are fine.

News Credits: 1 · by **durroth** » Sat May 24, 2014 1:55 am

one problem with this release. one. they forgot to paint the smokestacks/pistol on classics prime

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Sat May 24, 2014 2:22 am

So are we going to get a beat up rusty brown version of Evasion Mode Optimus Prime?

'cause that's what I want. I've never been fussed with the G1 inspired version, toss some flames on him and he's even more unwanted.

News Credits: 8 · by **Megatron Wolf** » Sat May 24, 2014 2:42 am

dear god are they trying to make evasion prime look more like a KO? If it was painted good id be all over this but they both look terrible so pass. Plus im sure the price will be extremely high.

Website · by **Fires_Of_Inferno** » Sat May 24, 2014 2:55 am

Oh yeah, this is the one I'm getting for sure. I also really REALLY need a version of Nemesis Prime.

by **DinobotScorn** » Sat May 24, 2014 2:57 am

I really wished that helicopter was going to be Cyclonus...wasn't he supposed to be in this thing? :???:

by **Peridot** » Sat May 24, 2014 3:19 am

DinobotScorn wrote:I really wished that helicopter was going to be Cyclonus...wasn't he supposed to be in this thing?

Given his alt-mode (which may or may not be a plot point) I think Cyclonus may have been one of the codenames Hasbro used to obscure the new character's names in case of leaks- So in this case, it might have been Drift's.

News Credits: 15 · by **Ravage XK** » Sat May 24, 2014 4:34 am

Why does Classics Prime have 1984?

I think I prefer the regular version of Evasion Prime, don't like those flames one bit.

News Credits: 4 · by **craggy** » Sat May 24, 2014 5:34 am

Well, i'll be having that! No classics Prime in my collection and it looks like one of the better red versions. I'm not keen on that Evasion mode one but this 2pack will still be cheaper than hunting down a Henkei or Cloud Op.

by **frogbat** » Sat May 24, 2014 5:35 am

i do think the 1984 on the box is a bit misleading.

I really want these 2 figures in my collection, hope I manage

by **Yotsuyasan** » Sat May 24, 2014 6:38 am

Oh my god, that Classics Prime is gorgeous! I never thought I'd see the day where I might think of replacing my 2006 version of the mold. (Although I may do some parts swapping... Most notably the smokestacks.)

I'm torn on the Evasion Mode Prime included... On one hand, I like the vehicle mode deco and some of the other color choices better on the regular release. On the other hand, this one has a faceplate! I suppose I could just get both, and do some parts swapping between them. Or I could just get this two-pack version, and be happy with it seeing as it was the only TF4 toy I was even mildly interested in, anyway.

by **Peridot** » Sat May 24, 2014 6:56 am

Mindmaster wrote:
Metro Prime wrote:
Va'al wrote:

Wonder if this has anything to do with that Drift Skyhammer repaint we saw the other day?

I have no doubt about it. The color placement is about right (though this is a dark gray rather than the blue we're used to seeing on Drift toys), it's almost the right shape, and it's got missile pods like the Skyhammer mold has. Plus, it's got an Autobot faction symbol slapped on the side, so that narrows it down some.

My guess is that, like Optimus and Bumblebee, Drift has an Evasion mode of some sort. :-?

He's in hiding, disguised as a helicopter (or a Bugatti, it could be either one) and when the Autobots reveal themselves, he scans a different alt-mode. That, or he's a Triple-Changer and Hasbro couldn't engineer that into a Deluxe figure without it looking horrid.

News Credits: 13 · by **OptimalOptimus2** » Sat May 24, 2014 7:02 am

I wonder if this means that there isn't going to be a Voyager Class Optimus Prime (Western Star truck). We can't get enough of that Evasion Mode Optimus.