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News Credits: 191 · by **Kurona** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 12:13 pm

If they were to make a new Liokaiser torso with Jallguar and Leozack - which, to me, seems unlikely - I can still see them using the limbs from Hasbro Liokaiser. They were done fine.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 12:17 pm

In light of this supposed UW Baldigus news, may I ask how many of ya'll here are fans of the RiD 2001 cartoon?

News Credits: 56 · by **o.supreme** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 12:35 pm

Sabrblade wrote:In light of this supposed UW Baldigus news, may I ask how many of ya'll here are fans of the RiD 2001 cartoon?

I'm more of a fan of the original Car Robots. After the HUGE disappointment that was Beast Machines, when I saw the design of the new toys in Japan, going back to vehicles,(at least for the Cybertrons) I was excited for Transformers again. Of course I had no idea that the anime would actually get dubbed in the U.S. (since the other series had never received an official release), so I was all in for Car Robots. I remember at BC 2000 in Ft Wayne trading my exclusive Apelinq & Shockaract for JRX & Baldigus sets (to me it was totaly worth it). I even got a VHS bootleg of the first 4 episodes, and was able to find (though primitive at the time), a streaming service where I could watch Car Robots episodes shortly after they aired in Japan. Of course when it was announced that CR would be dubbed in the U.S. as "Robots in Disguise" I was a bit skeptical. Of course it had its issues...but it was serviceable. To this day however I really enjoy watching Car Robots, and the toy line was excellent. unfortunately the next year when Armada came out, though the toy line had some memorable entries, the series was crap, and it would be another eight years before I could be excited about transformers on TV again.

News Credits: 191 · by **Kurona** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 12:40 pm

I tried to watch it and it bored me to death.
Twice.

News Credits: 127 · by **Counterpunch** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 1:46 pm

Sabrblade wrote:In light of this supposed UW Baldigus news, may I ask how many of ya'll here are fans of the RiD 2001 cartoon?

I definitely am.

News Credits: 4 · by **King Kuuga** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 2:43 pm

Sabrblade wrote:In light of this supposed UW Baldigus news, may I ask how many of ya'll here are fans of the RiD 2001 cartoon?

I enjoyed it at the time, but when my local station stopped carrying Fox Kids I never finished it. Last episode I saw was the cliffhanger where Megatron becomes Galvatron. I have since "acquired" all of Car Robots AND RID but never gotten around to actually watching them. I did meet Neil Kaplan at the one and only Savcon a few years back, though.

by **mblase75** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 2:46 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
mblase75 wrote:Scavenger -> Grimlock (needs a new name)
New name could be Buckethead.

Works for me.

There's also "Demolishor", but he's always been a Decepticon.

Come to think of it, there used to be a Micromaster simply named "Excavator." But again, Decepticon.

I guess they could recycle "Longarm", too.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 2:59 pm

o.supreme wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:In light of this supposed UW Baldigus news, may I ask how many of ya'll here are fans of the RiD 2001 cartoon?

I'm more of a fan of the original Car Robots.

That's cool. I like both versions about equally. The way I see it, Car Robots is the slightly superior version in which more things make more sense and which has the catchier music overall, while RiD has enough things in its version that I felt were either cool or funny enough to even things out with the original, and which did have a small amount things I did like better than in Car Robots (Dr. Onishi being more fatherly to his son in the dub than in the original, for one, or Cerebros's secret being technologically-based rather than Plasma's secret being more fantasy-based).

What I'm about the share also applies to fans of Car Robots as well.

Counterpunch wrote:I definitely am.

King Kuuga wrote:I enjoyed it at the time, but when my local station stopped carrying Fox Kids I never finished it. Last episode I saw was the cliffhanger where Megatron becomes Galvatron. I have since "acquired" all of Car Robots AND RID but never gotten around to actually watching them. I did meet Neil Kaplan at the one and only Savcon a few years back, though.

The reason I ask is because, back in November 2015, I wrote up a big RiD/CR reference guide in the TF cartoon/comics forum section, but it kinda got lost in all the IDW comics talk of the time. With this new CR-related news, I figure now might be a good time to bring back some attention to it.

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 3:02 pm

Wonder if this one will include an onslaught with broken legs too >:oP

News Credits: 4838 · by **william-james88** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 3:09 pm

Hellscream9999 wrote:Wonder if this one will include an onslaught with broken legs too

News Credits: 4 · by **Quantum Surge** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 6:32 pm

Off topic, but what's the likelihood we'd get KO's based on the Unite Warriors line made similarly to how some KO companies do the ROTF Leader Class Optimus Prime reproductions?

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 6:33 pm

Quantum Surge wrote:Off topic, but what's the likelihood we'd get KO's based on the Unite Warriors line made similarly to how some KO companies do the ROTF Leader Class Optimus Prime reproductions?

Reaaaaaally off topic.

News Credits: 8 · by **Flashwave** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 7:17 pm

SWEET!

*Goes and digs out Subscription Service Scourge*

News Credits: 4 · by **Quantum Surge** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 7:26 pm

fenrir72 wrote:
Quantum Surge wrote:Off topic, but what's the likelihood we'd get KO's based on the Unite Warriors line made similarly to how some KO companies do the ROTF Leader Class Optimus Prime reproductions?

Reaaaaaally off topic.

How off topic is it when I mentioned UNITE WARRIORS? :???:

News Credits: 42 · by **Autobot N** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 7:36 pm

Quantum Surge wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
Quantum Surge wrote:Off topic, but what's the likelihood we'd get KO's based on the Unite Warriors line made similarly to how some KO companies do the ROTF Leader Class Optimus Prime reproductions?

Reaaaaaally off topic.

How off topic is it when I mentioned UNITE WARRIORS?

Because the thread is about official Unite Warriors products, not KOs.

News Credits: 191 · by **Kurona** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 7:37 pm

Yeah, it... relates directly to UW. It's a discussion much better served in the unlicensed toys part of the forum of course, but this thread would easily be the best place to ask first. It's a fine question to put here. I see questions and posts about add-ons and knockoffs in other official product threads because it directly relates to the official product in question so I don't see why it's off-topic here.

News Credits: 4 · by **Quantum Surge** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:11 pm

All that aside, what's the likelihood that there will be an variant that is based on Hasbro's version of Ruination? I know Combiner Wars won't be the place for it, but what about FunPub?

News Credits: 23 · by **Bumblebee21** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:19 pm

Quantum Surge wrote:All that aside, what's the likelihood that there will be an variant that is based on Hasbro's version of Ruination? I know Combiner Wars won't be the place for it, but what about FunPub?

funpub is dead.

at least to :HASBRO:

News Credits: 1 · by **Bumblevivisector** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 9:24 pm

I assumed it'd be Baldigus as much as the next fan, but did anyone consider that if this wasn't the case, the next most logical use of Combaticon molds might be for UW Nexus Maximus?

I'm starting to think no choice of redeco is too out-there for the Unite Warriors line. Heck, they might end up giving us the G2 Protectobots if Hasbro decides that potential set's not profitable.

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 9:31 pm

This UW Baldigus might be the Combiner I'm most excited about yet. :DANCE:

News Credits: 191 · by **Kurona** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 9:33 pm

I would love for there to be a new Nexus Prime or a G2 Defensor from UW.

The only thing is that both of those are American-only concepts that have - as far as I know, at least - never existed in Japanese media. You have some examples of american-only fiction leaking into Japanese toylines recently in Straxus being not only released, but in a much more marvel-accurate colour scheme; and the Legends releases of Ultra Magnus, Brainstorm (UW-09, the voyager) and Skids being even more accurate to IDW than their Thrilling 30 counterparts. But full combiners? That's a difficult one. Maybe they can justify it with him being one of the Primes and G2 Defensor still, of course, being Defensor... but still.

News Credits: 4838 · by **william-james88** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 10:16 pm

Quantum Surge wrote:All that aside, what's the likelihood that there will be an variant that is based on Hasbro's version of Ruination? I know Combiner Wars won't be the place for it, but what about FunPub?

How is Hasbro's Ruination different to Takara's Baldigus?

And just to let you know, Fun Pub no longer has the license, so only Hasbro would release Ruination in the west.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 11:00 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Quantum Surge wrote:All that aside, what's the likelihood that there will be an variant that is based on Hasbro's version of Ruination? I know Combiner Wars won't be the place for it, but what about FunPub?

How is Hasbro's Ruination different to Takara's Baldigus?

Left: Baldigus, right: Ruination

For some reason, Hasbro gave their figure a deco that looks nothing like the guy's cartoon colors.

News Credits: 1 · by **Bumblevivisector** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 12:07 am

Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Quantum Surge wrote:All that aside, what's the likelihood that there will be an variant that is based on Hasbro's version of Ruination? I know Combiner Wars won't be the place for it, but what about FunPub?

How is Hasbro's Ruination different to Takara's Baldigus?
Left: Baldigus, right: Ruination

For some reason, Hasbro gave their figure a deco that looks nothing like the guy's cartoon colors.

Ah, coffee-milk tan.

I think Hasbro was making a misguided attempt at ramping up G1 nostalgia by giving Ruin a deco that was a compromise between Baldy and Bruty. While this unfortunately made the toy accurate to nothing, anyone who really wants a CWUTRID2001 Ruination could just Frankenstein it together from a spare Baldigus and G1 and G2 Brutici (plural?). Say, for that matter, UW Shuttler could be repurposed as the proper G2 Blastoff we didn't get...which could make the Slingshot repaint in the set repurposeable as Botcon Machine Wars CW Skywarp! Alllllllrighty then, I'm suddenly enthused about a set I could've cared less about when it was first teased in the Megatronia comic!

And in defense of Quantum Surge's KO question, because of Hasbro's Ruinationous deco decision, the only toys we've ever see the proper Baldigus deco on in the States are those knock-off giftsets that used to be all over Big Lots and other lower-rent retailers (I think I even saw a downsized one at Tuesday Morning last week), so he does make KOs spring to mind more than your average TF. But speculation is indeed best for a different thread.

News Credits: 12 · by **nycPrime** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 12:14 am

Kurona wrote:If they were to make a new Liokaiser torso with Jallguar and Leozack - which, to me, seems unlikely - I can still see them using the limbs from Hasbro Liokaiser. They were done fine.

You think Takara Liokaiser is still a matter of when and not if? I certainly hope so. He was so kick ass in Victory, but not really feeling the Hasbro offering.