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Coolyfett wrote:

Sonray wrote:

Auto Bot wrote:Hail George Lucas!

Long live George Lucas!

George Lucas is an idiot, and IMO in the same category of bad directors as Uwe Boll.

Whoooaaaa NallY!!! Sonray you can't really mean that Champ? Do you?

Yeah i do. I hate Star Wars. The acting is atrocious, the script is laughable and the editing and directing is pathetic.

I agree with what someone said once that star wars is concieved and designed by geniuses but executed and written by children.

PRiMES┴DESTiNY wrote:

Prowl_83 wrote:Very telling that most people's favourite Star Wars film is Empire - the one he DIDN'T direct...

hmmm...i didnt know he didnt direct that one and it is actually my favorite one out of all of em....hmmm....

He did not do Empire or Jedi. He did Ep 1 2 3 4. But I think he wrote or produced the 5 & 6

Auto Bot wrote:

Tankman wrote:Know that, i did not.

Padawan learner of Master Yoda, are you not?

ROFLMAO!! Very CRAZAMATIC!!!

Shadowman wrote:

Ghaax wrote:Or maybe the humans just didn't know how to use allspark properly? maybe it has instructions printed on it in cybertronian, but humans couldn't read it.

"press button "a" to create mindles killing machines"

"Press Any Key"

Where's the damn "Any" key?!

F***ing classic...

Auto Bot wrote:A lot of stuff up there^^^

I suggest you read the prequel to the movie, either in novel form or comic form or both. It will help you a little bit with understanding the movie.

More specifically, it will explain more about bumblebee's little voice-communicator issue and the first TFs to arrive on earth.

Auto Bot wrote:15.) Sam needs to get to the white building. Ironhide says, "We will protect you". Then Ironhide transforms into topkick, "Sam, get in". Zooms to the building at top speed, door opens, drops Sam out, transforms into robot and pump the bullets away... all in a very quick action sequence.

The only reason I think that wouldn't work is because there were a lot of vehicles and people everywhere on that street, and on top of that, they had to deal with the Decepticons. I'm sure it would've been a lot easier for them to be able to return fire and navagate around the obstacles by viewing everything from above in robot mode.


Otherwize, I pretty much agree with you on some of the minor things, but then it wouldn't have been such a fun movie if they had handled it like that. It would've been too stiff.

i just always figured it was cause they were just made and had no programming or disoriented or something

the movie was that good, its was by far the most enjoyable movie of the summer. though Die Hard 4 pushes has a noteworthy mention.

My only gripe with transformers is no decepticon scheming time. In the prequel you ahve the boyz plannign and scheming. Not in the movie. lets hoep to see some soon. I hope they have some scheming for the DVD if they have the prequel on mars when they destroy the rover, and than have the scene of starscream, blackout and co plannign would be good.

though i doubt it

but overall top film!!

Not sure why bumblee did not use the spark to heal himself, but maybe the power to restore may require the cube to be fully expanded. while the power to give life is inherit in the cube no matter if it is compressed or expanded.

riogrande100 wrote:Not sure why bumblee did not use the spark to heal himself, but maybe the power to restore may require the cube to be fully expanded. while the power to give life is inherit in the cube no matter if it is compressed or expanded.

You would think it would be the other way around, given that it would take more power to create life than to simply repair bots. You would think anyway.

This was another reason why I was thinking the Allspark was evil. It healed Frenzy (lets face it, he never did anything for that to happen and seemed surprised when it did) but it left BB alone.

Insurgent wrote:

riogrande100 wrote:Not sure why bumblee did not use the spark to heal himself, but maybe the power to restore may require the cube to be fully expanded. while the power to give life is inherit in the cube no matter if it is compressed or expanded.

You would think it would be the other way around, given that it would take more power to create life than to simply repair bots. You would think anyway.

This was another reason why I was thinking the Allspark was evil. It healed Frenzy (lets face it, he never did anything for that to happen and seemed surprised when it did) but it left BB alone.

Hmm...good point...i forgot all about that part....seems like we found another plot hole.

Sonray wrote:

Insurgent wrote:

riogrande100 wrote:Not sure why bumblee did not use the spark to heal himself, but maybe the power to restore may require the cube to be fully expanded. while the power to give life is inherit in the cube no matter if it is compressed or expanded.

You would think it would be the other way around, given that it would take more power to create life than to simply repair bots. You would think anyway.

This was another reason why I was thinking the Allspark was evil. It healed Frenzy (lets face it, he never did anything for that to happen and seemed surprised when it did) but it left BB alone.

Hmm...good point...i forgot all about that part....seems like we found another plot hole.

You mean there are plot holes? In Tranformers? Are ye mad??

Not paying attention there Sonray?

Insurgent wrote:

riogrande100 wrote:Not sure why bumblee did not use the spark to heal himself, but maybe the power to restore may require the cube to be fully expanded. while the power to give life is inherit in the cube no matter if it is compressed or expanded.

You would think it would be the other way around, given that it would take more power to create life than to simply repair bots. You would think anyway.

This was another reason why I was thinking the Allspark was evil. It healed Frenzy (lets face it, he never did anything for that to happen and seemed surprised when it did) but it left BB alone.

Did Allspark created all the Autobots as well? I'm not quite clear about that.

Allspark created all tf's in the movie continuity.

Insurgent wrote:Allspark created all tf's in the movie continuity.

Which brings up another question...if it has been destroyed, how will new robots be created?

Sonray wrote:

Insurgent wrote:Allspark created all tf's in the movie continuity.

Which brings up another question...if it has been destroyed, how will new robots be created?

well, when a mommy bot and a daddy bot do some special hugging....

My guess would be that what ever TF's are alive at this point are it. And since we don't know how many left Cybertron, there could be 100's or millions.

Decepticon Spike wrote:

Sonray wrote:

Insurgent wrote:Allspark created all tf's in the movie continuity.

Which brings up another question...if it has been destroyed, how will new robots be created?

well, when a mommy bot and a daddy bot do some special hugging....

My guess would be that what ever TF's are alive at this point are it. And since we don't know how many left Cybertron, there could be 100's or millions.

But still that basically means its the end of their species. No more TF's can be created....thats a rather saddening prospect because sooner or later, they will all die and there wont be anything left to replendish (sp?) the species.

Sonray wrote:

Decepticon Spike wrote:

Sonray wrote:

Insurgent wrote:Allspark created all tf's in the movie continuity.

Which brings up another question...if it has been destroyed, how will new robots be created?

well, when a mommy bot and a daddy bot do some special hugging....

My guess would be that what ever TF's are alive at this point are it. And since we don't know how many left Cybertron, there could be 100's or millions.

But still that basically means its the end of their species. No more TF's can be created....thats a rather saddening prospect because sooner or later, they will all die and there wont be anything left to replendish (sp?) the species.

do transformers die of age?

autobot comander wrote:

Sonray wrote:

Decepticon Spike wrote:

Sonray wrote:

Insurgent wrote:Allspark created all tf's in the movie continuity.

Which brings up another question...if it has been destroyed, how will new robots be created?

well, when a mommy bot and a daddy bot do some special hugging....

My guess would be that what ever TF's are alive at this point are it. And since we don't know how many left Cybertron, there could be 100's or millions.

But still that basically means its the end of their species. No more TF's can be created....thats a rather saddening prospect because sooner or later, they will all die and there wont be anything left to replendish (sp?) the species.

do transformers die of age?

I dunno, but given their violent history I doubt we'll ever find out.

But maybe there's a way for them to continue the species...

I see the All Spark as being kind of like the alien robot equivalent to cloning, only it's souls and not bodies. They're creating a new spark from scratch.

Perhaps if they take a hint from us... If they'd be willing to partner up, I'd lay good odds on the probability of their being able to create new sparks that way, like we make babies.

Spark A + Spark B = Spark A, Spark B *and Spark C*

It may not work as well, as it'll be slower and require some effort on the creators' part, but I'm betting it'll work.

Sonray wrote:

Decepticon Spike wrote:

Sonray wrote:

Insurgent wrote:Allspark created all tf's in the movie continuity.

Which brings up another question...if it has been destroyed, how will new robots be created?

well, when a mommy bot and a daddy bot do some special hugging....

My guess would be that what ever TF's are alive at this point are it. And since we don't know how many left Cybertron, there could be 100's or millions.

But still that basically means its the end of their species. No more TF's can be created....thats a rather saddening prospect because sooner or later, they will all die and there wont be anything left to replendish (sp?) the species.

Barring wars, or accidents, can TF's die of natural causes?

Decepticon Spike wrote:

Sonray wrote:

Decepticon Spike wrote:

Sonray wrote:

Insurgent wrote:Allspark created all tf's in the movie continuity.

Which brings up another question...if it has been destroyed, how will new robots be created?

well, when a mommy bot and a daddy bot do some special hugging....

My guess would be that what ever TF's are alive at this point are it. And since we don't know how many left Cybertron, there could be 100's or millions.

But still that basically means its the end of their species. No more TF's can be created....thats a rather saddening prospect because sooner or later, they will all die and there wont be anything left to replendish (sp?) the species.

Barring wars, or accidents, can TF's die of natural causes?

I am not sure. What is their life span? Must be hundreds of thousands of years at least...or are they immortal as long as they arent killed or injured to the point of no repair?

Considering that the TF universe is full of war (thats the main thing that makes the whole franchise exciting so without it TF's would be rather pointless) however its safe to say that every bots life expectancy will be cut short somewhere along the lines....in which case, how will they create more bots if the allspark is no more?

Sonray wrote:

Decepticon Spike wrote:

Sonray wrote:

Insurgent wrote:Allspark created all tf's in the movie continuity.

Which brings up another question...if it has been destroyed, how will new robots be created?

well, when a mommy bot and a daddy bot do some special hugging....

My guess would be that what ever TF's are alive at this point are it. And since we don't know how many left Cybertron, there could be 100's or millions.

But still that basically means its the end of their species. No more TF's can be created....thats a rather saddening prospect because sooner or later, they will all die and there wont be anything left to replendish (sp?) the species.

What if there were someone, say Primus or the Quintessons, that built the allspark, & can build another one? The transformers were created by the allspark, but what created the allspark??? It could be a nice quest for Prime & BB.

((sleep now))

Justicity wrote:

Sonray wrote:

Decepticon Spike wrote:

Sonray wrote:

Insurgent wrote:Allspark created all tf's in the movie continuity.

Which brings up another question...if it has been destroyed, how will new robots be created?

well, when a mommy bot and a daddy bot do some special hugging....

My guess would be that what ever TF's are alive at this point are it. And since we don't know how many left Cybertron, there could be 100's or millions.

But still that basically means its the end of their species. No more TF's can be created....thats a rather saddening prospect because sooner or later, they will all die and there wont be anything left to replendish (sp?) the species.

What if there were someone, say Primus or the Quintessons, that built the allspark, & can build another one? The transformers were created by the allspark, but what created the allspark??? It could be a nice quest for Prime & BB.

OOOh, yes, maybe we will hear Primus being mentioned, or maybe even seen, in the next TF movie. That is of course if, and its a big if, they stay that close to the source material.

I think now though that the first movie has proven to be a huge success for both general audiences and the fans, i think we will start to see even more G1 referances and homages thrown in, which will hopefully include Primus. Hopefully not the quintessons as i never liked them much. I found the whole sub plot that they created the transformers in G1 a bit stupid personally so i hope they do away with that part if they go into the origins of the transformers in the next 2 movies.

Justicity wrote:

Sonray wrote:

Decepticon Spike wrote:

Sonray wrote:

Insurgent wrote:Allspark created all tf's in the movie continuity.

Which brings up another question...if it has been destroyed, how will new robots be created?

well, when a mommy bot and a daddy bot do some special hugging....

My guess would be that what ever TF's are alive at this point are it. And since we don't know how many left Cybertron, there could be 100's or millions.

But still that basically means its the end of their species. No more TF's can be created....thats a rather saddening prospect because sooner or later, they will all die and there wont be anything left to replendish (sp?) the species.

What if there were someone, say Primus or the Quintessons, that built the allspark, & can build another one? The transformers were created by the allspark, but what created the allspark??? It could be a nice quest for Prime & BB.

((sleep now))

how do you know that primus or quintisons exsits in this countinuaty?

We don't. All we have is the Allspark, with Optimus Prime and Megatron being the closest to the communion of Cybertronian creation.

autobot comander wrote:

Justicity wrote:

Sonray wrote:

Decepticon Spike wrote:

Sonray wrote:

Insurgent wrote:Allspark created all tf's in the movie continuity.

Which brings up another question...if it has been destroyed, how will new robots be created?

well, when a mommy bot and a daddy bot do some special hugging....

My guess would be that what ever TF's are alive at this point are it. And since we don't know how many left Cybertron, there could be 100's or millions.

But still that basically means its the end of their species. No more TF's can be created....thats a rather saddening prospect because sooner or later, they will all die and there wont be anything left to replendish (sp?) the species.

What if there were someone, say Primus or the Quintessons, that built the allspark, & can build another one? The transformers were created by the allspark, but what created the allspark??? It could be a nice quest for Prime & BB.

((sleep now))

how do you know that primus or quintisons exsits in this countinuaty?

They have yet to build upon it. But theres a good chance it will be featured in one of the next 2 movies...