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Re: Thee G.I.Joe movie thread (Spoilers contained within)

Postby Predaprince » Sat Aug 08, 2009 2:18 pm

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shortround wrote:Brendan Fraser played sgt. stone were did you get that he play sgt. slaughter from? To anyone who wonder who the dark haired girl who demoed the stealth suit when we first saw it that was supposed to be Jinx.



Ok. I've never watched the other G.I. Joe series, so I just looked up who Sgt. Stone is and it did say that was who he was playing.
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Postby Rodimus Prime » Sat Aug 08, 2009 2:51 pm

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If there is a sequel (why wouldn't be?) made, I hope they put Lady Jaye, Wild Bill, and yes, Slaughter in there. And maybe even Dr. Biggles-Jones and Dr. Mindbender more. Also, I think Brendan Fraser could have gotten away with playing Lt. Falcon! :P
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Re: Thee G.I.Joe movie thread (Spoilers contained within)

Postby Lord Grimlock » Sat Aug 08, 2009 3:38 pm

DREADNOKS SHOULD BE IN THE SEQUEL
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Re: Thee G.I.Joe movie thread (Spoilers contained within)

Postby First-Aid » Sat Aug 08, 2009 4:24 pm

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There was one woman in the movie...I don't think she was named- the blonde assistant to Gen. Hawk...good god that girl had what one may call a "heaving" bustline...did anyone else notice that?...

...it just occurred to me that all my posts talk about boobs...huh....go figure... :roll:
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First-Aid wrote:Okay, did anyone else notice that we all get a wonderful shot of Starscreams crotch anytime he sits in that throne? That's unnerving. Couldn't they have put n extra flap in there? It's....weird.


Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...


Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
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Re: Thee G.I.Joe movie thread (Spoilers contained within)

Postby Darth Bombshell » Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:26 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:One character I really really REALLY wanted to see was Sgt. Slaughter, even for a cameo. The wrestler who voiced him and looks like him is about 60, but I think he would have been good just for one shot.


Not likely to happen. Since the "Iraqi sympathizer" angle the character did in the WWE in the early 90's the character's been disassoicated from the franchise.

Just got back from the movie. And I have to agree with what people have been saying, especially in the sense that it's better than ROTF.

Well, I have to disagree on one point.

Rachel Nichols > Sienna Miller.

There I said it.
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Postby Tigertrack » Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:49 pm

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First-Aid wrote:There was one woman in the movie...I don't think she was named- the blonde assistant to Gen. Hawk...good god that girl had what one may call a "heaving" bustline...did anyone else notice that?...

...it just occurred to me that all my posts talk about boobs...huh....go figure... :roll:


She would be named 'Cover Girl' and she was played by a model.
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Re: Thee G.I.Joe movie thread (Spoilers contained within)

Postby Cyber Bishop » Sat Aug 08, 2009 9:42 pm

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Ok, just saw it and thoroughly enjoyed it.

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One thing about the movie, I was totally surprised by Cover Girl's death.

And it definitely warrants a sequel.
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Re: Thee G.I.Joe movie thread (Spoilers contained within)

Postby jacksonspade » Sat Aug 08, 2009 9:54 pm

I guess I'm in the minority because I really didn't like this movie. The story was ok, it's a basic origin story but Snake Eyes didn't get nearly enough screen time and when he did he didn't do much with it.

The CGI was horrible. I've seen better work on a made for Sci-Fi Channel original movie. Every time they did some big CG shot it took me right out of the mood

The explanation as to why Rex becomes evil is laughable even the reveal of Cobra Commander and Destro, just plain sloppy writing, and yes, Transformers suffers from a bit of that as well.

I realize it's a big dumb action movie and say what you will (haters) but Michael Bay does big dumb action way better than Stephen Sommers (or most other working directors today) and GI Joe is proof of that
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Re: Thee G.I.Joe movie thread (Spoilers contained within)

Postby shortround » Sun Aug 09, 2009 1:12 am

In an interview Stephen Sommers mentioned a one thing that he wants to have second film:

1. cobra temple alpha (the town of springfield)

Now for the joes I would love to see in the second film:

1. wild bill of course

2. tunnel rat

3. a reformed bareness as agent helix
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Re: Thee G.I.Joe movie thread (Spoilers contained within)

Postby Autobot032 » Sun Aug 09, 2009 5:58 am

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Having just seen the film a second time, early this morning, I still have it quite fresh in my mind, so...

I loved it. I'm not even a G.I. Joe fan, but I LOVED this movie. I'm even enticed to go out and buy a few figures when I have the dough.

Pros:
-Sommers proved you could have a great film with a lot of explosions and fun, without taking you into the "I need an intermission so I can take a thumper dumper" time frame. (Though a few extra minutes to flesh out the other characters, plus a bit more story/plot overall, would've helped.)

-Covergirl, Scarlet, and the Baroness were just incredible. That kind of beauty shouldn't be in one movie, because it's an overload to a man's senses. (Side effects include, but are not limited to: Impure thoughts, tongue wagging, excessive drooling, a persecution complex (because you know you'll NEVER get a woman like that. lol), and a S.O. who wants to beat the crap out of you.)

-The Pit. No, seriously, that entire set was just incredibly cool and I hope the playset has even a fraction of that awesome.

-Sgt. Stone. Brendan Fraser cameo FTW! (I wouldn't be surprised if we see other Mummy alums make appearances throughout the sequels. And I think we'd welcome it too, a nice nod for the fans of both movie series.)

-Zartan. Arnold Vosloo was a terrific choice to play Zartan, and it wasn't silly or over the top. He was slimy, he was evil, and he lived up to the master of disguise moniker.

-Ripcord. Say what you will, but I haven't seen the source material much, and know absolutely nothing of Ripcord's origin, but I thought Marlon Wayans was terrific. (No seriously, I'm being honest here.) He was funny, he had a certain charm about him, and he was a more than capable actor in the role.

-Cobra Commander. Joseph Gordon-Levitt was definitely a surprising choice for CC, but dammit, he pulled it off. I thought he was really great, and the voice? Dang. The mask, however, fail. I'd like to see him look more like the original CC at some point. It doesn't have to be a total 1:1 design either, but something that melds the two designs.

Cons:

-Pacing. Moved WAAAY too fast. Never really slowed down long enough to let the story through in some spots.

-Anna & Duke's history. Great, glad to see some actual story behind the characters in the film. (I'll admit, TF movies have dropped the ball here, immensely.) However, they just went on and on with it for far too long. We get it, they were starcrossed lovers, he pussed out because he got her brother killed, her brother turned her into a villain, Duke will save her, blah, blah, blah. We got it. They should've taken a cue from the Snake Eyes/Storm Shadow history. It was just enough to show how they became who/what they are, but not excessive and drawn out.

-The creation of Destro. I'm not sure how it went in the source material, but having his face become the mask...eh... It looked cool, but seriously, it was beyond ridiculous. (And yes, I realize the entire film was full of ridiculous moments.) Though the toy looks badass. Had he looked like that in the film, I'd have been sold, because I could've over looked it.

-The excessive violence. I just wasn't expecting it to be quite so intense. I realize it's G.I. Joe, so it's going to be violent considering they're a military task force, etc. Problem is, this film was also marketed to kids as well as TF/ROTF, and while both were violent (especially Prime when he went all hack choppy on Grindor and the like...) ROTF's violence was primarily giant robots (which do not exist, and kids know this) beating the living crap out of one another. Joe's violence was...bloody, intense, and realistic. Realistic is fine for us, but not so much for kids. Now granted, the same audiences attending ROTF will go see this movie, especially if they have kids. I just want parents to be well informed before taking their children to see it. I watched two families leave during the most violent parts of the movie, one of them being the final battle between SE and SS. I was totally unprepared for Covergirl's death. One second she's talking to Hawk, the next this blade comes bursting through her chest and pokes out of the screen on the tablet PC in front of her. Made me jump, both times, and my jaw hit the floor, both times.

-CGI. Awful, awful, awful. A very inconsistent and embarrassing display. The Accelerator Suits were top notch, the rest of the CGI surrounding them? Not so much. The Eiffel Tower made me want to go find a Nanomite and use it to eat the projector. That..."effect" is just AWFUL.

All in all, I thought it was a terrific film, an enjoyable experience, and the cast, while imperfect, performed with skill and tongue planted firmly in cheek, and I'm so thankful for that. If had been a totally serious film, it would've killed some of the charm of it for me. This is a cartoon, comic book, and toyline come to life. I expect silliness, over the top visuals, and humor from something like this, and they delivered. If they had gone the Resolute way, I'd have been a bored and sad panda. Resolute worked great as a 70 minute animated flick, just not on the big screen.

I find it to be no better than ROTF, nor is it lesser than. They are neck and neck in my book, and fighting for the top spot. I'm giving them a tie at #1 in my favorites list for the time being, because it's well deserved.

Good job Hasbro, that's TWO movies, in a single season, that you've pulled off and given us something to truly enjoy and be thrilled by.

Go see this film, folks. It's well worth the price of admission, and you'll come out with a smile on your face. Maybe because you realize it's a guilty pleasure, maybe because it knocked your socks off, either way...a smile will be had in the end.

Friggin' awesome, I say.
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Re: Thee G.I.Joe movie thread (Spoilers contained within)

Postby Cyber Bishop » Sun Aug 09, 2009 8:02 am

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Autobot032 wrote:-Ripcord. Say what you will, but I haven't seen the source material much, and know absolutely nothing of Ripcord's origin, but I thought Marlon Wayans was terrific. (No seriously, I'm being honest here.) He was funny, he had a certain charm about him, and he was a more than capable actor in the role.

Ripcord
http://gijoe.wikia.com/wiki/Ripcord_%28RAH%29
http://www.yojoe.com/filecard/84/ripcord.shtml



Autobot032 wrote:-The creation of Destro. I'm not sure how it went in the source material, but having his face become the mask...eh... It looked cool, but seriously, it was beyond ridiculous. (And yes, I realize the entire film was full of ridiculous moments.) Though the toy looks badass. Had he looked like that in the film, I'd have been sold, because I could've over looked it.

Destro's history
http://gijoe.wikia.com/wiki/Destro_%28RAH%29


Autobot032 wrote:-The excessive violence. I just wasn't expecting it to be quite so intense. I realize it's G.I. Joe, so it's going to be violent considering they're a military task force, etc. Problem is, this film was also marketed to kids as well as TF/ROTF, and while both were violent (especially Prime when he went all hack choppy on Grindor and the like...) ROTF's violence was primarily giant robots (which do not exist, and kids know this) beating the living crap out of one another. Joe's violence was...bloody, intense, and realistic. Realistic is fine for us, but not so much for kids. Now granted, the same audiences attending ROTF will go see this movie, especially if they have kids. I just want parents to be well informed before taking their children to see it. I watched two families leave during the most violent parts of the movie, one of them being the final battle between SE and SS. I was totally unprepared for Covergirl's death. One second she's talking to Hawk, the next this blade comes bursting through her chest and pokes out of the screen on the tablet PC in front of her. Made me jump, both times, and my jaw hit the floor, both times.

This and the occasional "****" are the reasons it was rated PG-13. I had wondered why it got such rating (I figured it would have scenes of intense violence, but the blade through cover girl's chest caught me off guard)

Autobot032 wrote:-CGI. Awful, awful, awful. A very inconsistent and embarrassing display. The Accelerator Suits were top notch, the rest of the CGI surrounding them? Not so much. The Eiffel Tower made me want to go find a Nanomite and use it to eat the projector. That..."effect" is just AWFUL.


Destro's CGI was especially horrible..

All in all it is a fun, fast exciting movie.
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Re: Thee G.I.Joe movie thread (Spoilers contained within)

Postby Tyrannotaur » Sun Aug 09, 2009 12:09 pm

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I saw it last night. Was enjoyable. I still liked ROTF better, but I did enjoy G.I.Joe alot. I have to say I loved the kinda flashback effect they used to explain backstory. They didn't start off with the back story and go from their. They picked it up from one part in the story and then filled you in along the way. I only wish Transformers and the X-men movies would pick that up. I'd love to see flashbacks to the Great war or something. I also like how they blended the scenes in some shots, like when it goes from Ripcord chasing the missiles to the underwater fight, really nicely done. The Overall CGi was kinda cheesy. I noticed when the "spike plow" was deployed it looked really fake, same with Destro's face. Other stuff though looked great, like the accelerator suits, the jet fighter and Snake Eyes dodging cars. The masks did bother me too and I was never a G.I.Joe fan. Those are kinda iconic things you shouldn't mess with I guess. The "mouth" on Snake Eyes just looked dumb. Cobra Commander could easily just put a hood over that foolish mask and look fine. I also think he should have kept his first voice and not have gone all Dr.Claw/Soundwave on us. Scarlett and Baroness where incredibly hot, yet neither one was a dumb bimbo/ helpless princess. Double whammy Hasbro. Good work. Give the guys something to oogle, and show the girls that they can kick ass too. I have to say I really paid for the Snake Eyes vs Storm shadow fights. they didn't disappoint. Although I'll bet you all Storm Shadow somehow makes it into the sequel. I'd also like to see how they will dig their way out of making Baroness the way they did. I'd really rather they just made her evil..but I guess they needed a conflict. Channing Tatium was eh, Mr. Wayans surprised me. Everyone else did a great job as well.
Overall I liked it. I'd give it a 7.5 if I gave ROTF a 8. The effects kinda killed it a bit for me, but it was still great.

When Scarlett screamed "SNAKE!" anyone else have the urge to finish what she was screaming and yell "SNAKE!!!??? SSSSSSSSNNNNNNNNAAAAAAAAAAKKKKKEEEE!!!!!" Ala Metal Gear Solid. :lol:
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Postby Jesterhead » Sun Aug 09, 2009 12:29 pm

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I've never really been a huge Joe fan, but after seeing the movie, I know I will be soon lol. I really enjoyed the movie. And since Joe figures are on for 5 buck flat at my local walmart, I can get 3 Joes for the price of one Deluxe TF, Finally toys that save ME money :P
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Postby First-Aid » Sun Aug 09, 2009 5:14 pm

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Jesterhead wrote:I've never really been a huge Joe fan, but after seeing the movie, I know I will be soon lol. I really enjoyed the movie. And since Joe figures are on for 5 buck flat at my local walmart, I can get 3 Joes for the price of one Deluxe TF, Finally toys that save ME money :P


Not really if they are making you buy stuff you wouldn't be otherwise..:-P
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Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...


Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
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Postby Elita One » Sun Aug 09, 2009 9:25 pm

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Postby shortround » Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:20 pm

I have read a few review on here and other places complaining about the cg in the film. I think what people tend to forget about is that this film most likely didn't have a big budget, like transformers and transformers rise of the fallen did because they were back by steven spielberg, so they had to make due with what they had to work with and think they did a pretty good job considering. I also think if they get to do a second film they will have the special effects budget to make us all say wow, because by that time it will be a proven franchise that can make money for them.
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Re: Thee G.I.Joe movie thread (Spoilers contained within)

Postby First-Aid » Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:34 pm

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shortround wrote:I have read a few review on here and other places complaining about the cg in the film. I think what people tend to forget about is that this film most likely didn't have a big budget, like transformers and transformers rise of the fallen did because they were back by steven spielberg, so they had to make due with what they had to work with and think they did a pretty good job considering. I also think if they get to do a second film they will have the special effects budget to make us all say wow, because by that time it will be a proven franchise that can make money for them.


ACtually, the budget for GIJoe was $175 million...which is LARGER than the first Transformers.

On another note, did anyone notice the mask that covered Ripcord's face when he ejected from the Night Raven? It was identical to the original pilot for the Cobra Rattler- Wild Weasel, if memory serves. Thought that was a nice touch.
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Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...


Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
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Re: Thee G.I.Joe movie thread (Spoilers contained within)

Postby Autobot032 » Sun Aug 09, 2009 11:45 pm

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First-Aid wrote:ACtually, the budget for GIJoe was $175 million...which is LARGER than the first Transformers.


Ah. So then there's really no excuse for the lackluster effects. Again, I say, it's Sommers.

The movie's great, but his choice in special effects is just awful.

The man's perplexing to me, he really is. He has an eye for cinema and is quite capable in bringing it to life, yet he can't get the CGI right? Yeesh.
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Re: Thee G.I.Joe movie thread (Spoilers contained within)

Postby galvamus prime » Mon Aug 10, 2009 12:29 am

First off:
When Scarlett screamed "SNAKE!" anyone else have the urge to finish what she was screaming and yell "SNAKE!!!??? SSSSSSSSNNNNNNNNAAAAAAAAAAKKKKKEEEE!!!!!" Ala Metal Gear Solid. :lol:


Hell yes.

Now,my review:

Speaking as a pretty big G.I. Joe fan(G.I. Joes and TFs were some of the very first toys I ever played with.), I really enjoyed this movie. It's silly and ridiculous,absolutely, but it works. If they make G.I. Joe too serious, it ceases to become slightly superheroey fun and more of a straight military action flick(for me anyways). The movie isn't logical, but it makes itself seem logical by establishing it's own crazy logic. Does that make sense?

I'm having hard time trying to explain the movie.. It pretty much is the cartoon come to life. It's G.I. Joe and Not-Quite-Cobra-Yet fighting over a crazy doomsday device with ninja fights and lasers! That's all you really need to know. Also,Snake Eyes was sooooooooooooo awesome. Every time Snake Eyes was on the screen I was just like "Cool."

Same for Storm Shadow and Cobra Commander. Really good performances. They really just "were" the characters. When I first heard about this whole "The Doctor" angle they were playing for C.C. and the fact he was going to be played by Darlene's boyfriend from Roseanne, I was kinda iffy. But, it really,really works.

LEAPS AND BOUNDS BETTER THAN ROTF. Easily. You know why? Because I don't hate myself when I watch it. ROTF is my guiltiest pleasure. It makes me feel like I just jerked off to My Little Pony. It makes me feel that guilty for supporting Michael Bay's horrible,horrible film-making and rampant racism, and his continued attacks on TF.

G.I. Joe does not. It respects the source material to a degree, but most importantly, it respects the spirit of it. Things make sense.

It isn't perfect,obviously. Two major problems:
Bad CGI. Don't need to elaborate on that.

Fairly Minor Complaint:
Scarlett and Ripcord pairing. No,no,no. It's not a race issue. It's not JUST because it's Marlon Wayans. It's because Snake Eyes and Scarlett have always been, to me anyways,like one of those fictional couples you don't **** with(I've heard in the cartoon, she was paired with Duke, but I never really noticed.). I don't think I would've cared quite as much if it was any other character besides Marlon Wayans. It's like if Lois Lane **** the Plasticman.

I really need to stop with these bizarre similes don't I?

Anyways, yeah, solid flick. Hoping for Serpentor in the sequel. Or a TF crossover.
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Re: Thee G.I.Joe movie thread (Spoilers contained within)

Postby shortround » Mon Aug 10, 2009 1:04 am

175 million is not a big budget for a movie today, A budget between 200-400 million is a good budget to get everything you want done with a film including cg and standard old school stunts and make it look really. Also I think sommers does better with the old school stunts and special effects like the car chase threw the paris streets but that is just. Over all I really liked the film even destro mask and rex "the doctor" lewis I can't wait to get his figure.
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Re: Thee G.I.Joe movie thread (Spoilers contained within)

Postby Rodimus Prime » Mon Aug 10, 2009 1:41 am

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One thing I forgot to mention in my previous post.

Props to the 2 kids who played Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow in the flashbacks. They got mad skillz!

And Bombshell, I disagree. Other than a bigger bra size, Rachel Nichols has nothing on Sienna Miller in this movie.
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Re: Thee G.I.Joe movie thread (Spoilers contained within)

Postby tom brokaw » Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:46 am

gi joe was good, kinda cheesy, but overall a decent movie. personally i liked it more than rotf
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Re: Thee G.I.Joe movie thread (Spoilers contained within)

Postby Steamed_Ham » Mon Aug 10, 2009 3:09 am

Took me a while to get into it, but when I did I had a blast. I enjoyed this much more than either TF movie (and unlike many I didn't hate ROTF), and I'm certainly a bigger TF than Joe fan. It had a pleasingly goofy and innocent quality to it, as opposed to th TF film's cynicism and fratish brashness, and I find that tone more appropriate for a film spun off from a toyline. Is the film silly and kind of corny? Yes, and for some people who don't have already have a place in their hearts for G.I. Joe that may be all they see, my friend wasn't all the impressed. But if this thread is anything to go by, thankfully it seems like some who aren't all that familliar with the franchise will have a blast too. I loved it, I sat there in awe for much of it and it made me feel like I was 6 years old again. And I kind of wish I was, because then I could go trick or treating as Storm Shadow this year. Byung-hun Lee owned this movie, and maybe even the summer.
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Re: Thee G.I.Joe movie thread (Spoilers contained within)

Postby vectorA3 » Mon Aug 10, 2009 4:22 am

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Hasbro, Paramount, Bay, Goldner, and Di Bonaventura -everybody - I hope you're listenin. GI Joe SMOKED TF: ROTF. Why couldn't the character development, action, pacing and story be like this for ROTF?? Oh that's right you let the director film with a 30 page outline during a strike, make up stuff on the day, and just HAAAAD to meet the deadline for the greedy investors. And Star Trek and GI Joe were not enough for a movie year. :roll: Oh yeah, that's right. :evil:

If you can't tell, seeing how good Joe was makes me really pissed about TF2. Abrams - GRAND SLAM!! Sommers - HOME RUN! Bay - HBP.
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Re: Thee G.I.Joe movie thread (Spoilers contained within)

Postby Autobot032 » Mon Aug 10, 2009 5:39 am

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Oh, one thing I forgot to go into in my earlier posts.

Storm Shadow isn't dead. If Stephen Sommers can bring back Imhotep for The Mummy Returns, he damn well can bring SS back.

And it's easily explained away. The stab wound, while dangerous, most likely won't be fatal for some reason or another. His death fall ended with him falling in freezing cold water, which will preserve his body until the right people can get to work on fixing it. Cue Cobra Commander and his nanomite toolkit.

I don't think we've seen the last of Storm Shadow, not yet. Had he vaporized in the laser, that'd be impossible to come back from, but this? Oh they'll find a way.

EDIT: Am I the only one who thought Marlon Wayans was terrific? Seriously, I don't understand all the hate towards him and his portrayal. I get it that he's not the Ripcord ya'll know and love, but this isn't quite the same G.I. Joe that ya'll know and love. Some of it's definitely a redesign with some glaring changes. Knowing that going in, I fail to see how it's giving you the green light to complain now. The best advice I can give you is this: Go and see the film, and have a good time, or cling to the past and don't waste the money or the time.
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