The Energon Pub

If this has been covered by another thread, please lock it.
I checked around and didn't find anything.

OK - let's hear your theories, screenplay ideas, and most wanted characters for the next installment!

Will there be Dinobots?
Will Starscream return to rule?
Will Frenzy revive Megatron? or will we see a 'Galvatron'?
What about a gestalt (sp?). Constructicons? Combaticons?

Thoughts? What about a 'wish list'?

I believe the producers have said that the Dinobots and Soundwave will probably appear. But at this point, it's all speculation until an actual script is written.

I think Galvatron will rise out not Megs

While I hope they make a couple more movies, it's hard to tell if it'll happen.
But you'd think with how well it's done, there has to be serious talk about it.

I think it would be awesome to see a couple combiners...
Maybe Devastator and Superion
(easy characters to get in there as far as both modes).
Of course getting Soundwave in there would be sweet.
I think they would need to bring back Megatron. Or Galvatron.
Starscream needs to be in there, and while I love the Dinobots, not sure they'd make the cut,
just because it may be a stretch to fit them into the story line.

Speaking of which, I wouldn't mind if it were something simple,
as in
Starscream comes back, creates the Constructicons,
and has a plan to try and drain as much of the earth's power as possible (get some energon cubes in the movie!!).
Why? Maybe he wants to rule the planet... Maybe he wants enough power to begin "building" on another planet.
Either way.
In the process, Starscream brings to life some other Decepticons--
Maybe Astrotrain? Shockwave? The Insecticons?
The Decepticons are dispursed throughout the world in their quest for energy, but
they start getting a little sloppy, and what started out as a mysterious lose of fossil fuels, etc. around the world, is uncovered by the Autobots.
Midway through the movie, out of fear (after one of the first major battle scenes),
Starscream revives Megatron (maybe as Galvatron),
and then the real battle scenes are opened up
(some taking place in other areas of the world).
Also, we find that the Autobots have the similar technology as Starscream and have brought to life some of the other Autobots.
As part of the final battle, the Constructicons unite, and Devastator begins dominating.
However, from somewhere else on the planet, the planes that form Superion race in.
At that point I would like to see Superion fall to Devastator, but this help at least relieves the Autobots enough to where they can hold their own against the other Decepticons.
Although I wouldn't want to see Devastator destroyed,
maybe one of the Contructicons gets damaged enough to where they can't unite...
And in the end, MAYBE bust out the Dinobots, who really help turn the tide for the good guys (although, that would be a sweet addition for a third movie)... The surviving Decepticons flea and retreat into hiding to regroup,
potentially on another planet.
OH, maybe if Starscream begins building a base on another planet at the beginning of the movie, they end up there.
While some of the Autobots are severely damaged (a couple get thrashed by Devastator), only 1-2 are killed.
Of course, you have to throw in some sort of human character plot...
I guess you continue with Bumblebee and that kid...
But to me, human stuff is kinda filler.

Anyway, just thinking about all that makes me REALLY hope that another movie will be in the works soon.

Come on, what are some other ideas?

I know there are lots of people out there that at least have an opinion.

acree!

Arcee will come back. Megatron comes back. Starscream comes back with even more powerful Decepticons. Wahoo!

acree comes back? she never went anywhere

autobot comander wrote:acree comes back? she never went anywhere

She was assigned to the Charii star system after the war on Cybertron. By 'come back' I mean come back somewhere closer to us, i.e. Earth.

I can see the sequel starting with Megatron getting dumped in the ocean, on his way down his eye starts glowing red and he mumbles "I still function...."

Later on Starscream would come back with Soundwave, Skywarp (Fingers Crossed) and the constructicons would be cool.

Autobot wise I'm thinkin' Arcee (cuz that seems to be the popular vote) and Jetfire (cuz they need a flier too!)

I'd be ok with Ratchet being able to revive/rebuild/revamp Jazz, too

My ideas on the sequel

Transformers to appear:
Autobots:
Arcee
Wheeljack
Dinobots (maybe have them become a combiner!)

Decepticons:
Soundwave w/ Lazerbeak, Ravage, and Rumble
Shockwave
Cyclonus
Thundercracker
Constructicons (maybe rebuild Bonecrusher into one.)

Story:
It's two years after the first movie, the Autobots are staying with Sam, keeping an optic sensor out for Barricade and Scorponok, two Decepticon survivors. Jazz been rebuilt, and everybody's happy until Optimus receives visions of a possible second Allspark somewhere on a planet far away. Optimus is still worried that the Decepticons will launch an retailitory strike against Earth, so Ironhide agrees to lead a team of Autobots to investigate, summoning the Ark, hidden in an Asteroid belt. So Ironhide, Ratchet, and new arrival Arcee set off for the Allspark. Meanwhile, Optimus' fears are justified when Starscream returns with Cyclonus, Thundercracker, and the Constructicons.

Soundwave and Shockwave, not really loyal to Starcream, set off to look for Megatron's remains. Starscream gathers up Barricade and Scorponok and attack the few remaining Autobots, who receives backup from Wheeljack and the Dinobots. Megatron is discovered by Soundwave and finds that Megatron is still alive, revived and strengthened by the Allspark's power. He scans an Earth jet modeled after Megatrons Cybertron jet.

Now, what started as a force of two, Autobots and Decepticons has now become a force of three, Autobots, Megatron, and Starscream's newly named Combaticons!

I hope there won't be any Dinobots... it will ruin it for the non-G1-fans. And the people who saw the 1st Movie liked it... what will they think of a Robot Dinosaur... that would be telling

I actually really like both of those ideas from Jackson and Ericus...
And Ericus' could potentially help extend the entire story into the 3rd movie, although I'd like to see the Constructicons and Thundercracker turn on Starscream and re-join Megatron and Soundwave.
I'd also like to see Shockwave in there too.
Imo, that's a hefty batch of Decepticons that will do some major damage.

I know some would think that having Bonecrusher back as his true G1 form would be a "down-grade",
but I'd say he's lucky to even be brought back.


Part of me would want to have the Dinobots held out until the 3rd movie... Topping them and Devastator in another movie would be tough.
BUT having them both in the same movie would be so awesome.

And my personal opinion is that this movie should be geared towards fans slightly more than "new-comers".
It's totally justified, and I think more people than you'd think will appreciate the idea.
Especially IF they research or just hear by word of mouth
that the Dinobots are favorite characters from the original cartoon.

Kickback21 wrote:If this has been covered by another thread, please lock it.
I checked around and didn't find anything.

It's been covered by at least two dozen threads.

I think someone should email MB about the concept of slowly kicking it up a notch each movie, or this francise could fizzle and burn out at the second movie. He's not the guy to hold back on effects, and the aircraft carrier idea for a second movie doesn't pan out.

Slowly go from big, to bigger, to massive, and not only make yourself look good by topping yourself in front od the audience each time, but give the guys at ILM time to slowly perfect a new art.

T1- Introduce the base cast= 30' robots
T2- Introduce the Dinobots and Devastator= 90' robots
T3- Introduce Metroplex (the beloved carrier) and Trypticron (even better hulking monstrocity)= 200' robots
T4- Complex battles (with many, many TF's and pan-outs)
T5- Space Battles (Total CGI)
T6- Unicron= Coup d' gras

I have a few ways it will work out in the 2nd movie...if it happens.

A) I have a feeling Megatron and Starscream will be rescued by Shockwave and a few other Decepticons (praying for the Constructicons or the Stunticons.) The others who are on the bottom of the ocean are too mangled and destroyed by the oceans natural forces to be rescued. Meg and Screamer get rebuilt by shockwave and get new alts and bring the war back to earth.

B) Megs and Screamer get recovered by a rich evil Billionaire (Archevil or similar to.) His money rebuilds megs and screamer. megs contacts decepticons on the remains of cybertron.

those are just a few ideas in running around in my head.

I would hope Megs and Screamer get new Alts for the 2nd movie. Along with more a few more decepticons and a Gestalt or Bigger robot.

With the Autobots it would be nice to see a few new autobots or goup join them. Aeiralbots, Protectobots or something, Maybe Metroplex.
_________________

Optimus Prime007 wrote:I have a few ways it will work out in the 2nd movie...if it happens.

A) I have a feeling Megatron and Starscream will be rescued by Shockwave and a few other Decepticons (praying for the Constructicons or the Stunticons.) The others who are on the bottom of the ocean are too mangled and destroyed by the oceans natural forces to be rescued. Meg and Screamer get rebuilt by shockwave and get new alts and bring the war back to earth.

B) Megs and Screamer get recovered by a rich evil Billionaire (Archevil or similar to.) His money rebuilds megs and screamer. megs contacts decepticons on the remains of cybertron.

those are just a few ideas in running around in my head.

I would hope Megs and Screamer get new Alts for the 2nd movie. Along with more a few more decepticons and a Gestalt or Bigger robot.

With the Autobots it would be nice to see a few new autobots or goup join them. Aeiralbots, Protectobots or something, Maybe Metroplex.
_________________

Screamer's out in space.

DesalationReborn wrote:I think someone should email MB about the concept of slowly kicking it up a notch each movie, or this francise could fizzle and burn out at the second movie. He's not the guy to hold back on effects, and the aircraft carrier idea for a second movie doesn't pan out.

Slowly go from big, to bigger, to massive, and not only make yourself look good by topping yourself in front od the audience each time, but give the guys at ILM time to slowly perfect a new art.

T1- Introduce the base cast= 30' robots
T2- Introduce the Dinobots and Devastator= 90' robots
T3- Introduce Metroplex (the beloved carrier) and Trypticron (even better hulking monstrocity)= 200' robots
T4- Complex battles (with many, many TF's and pan-outs)
T5- Space Battles (Total CGI)
T6- Unicron= Coup d' gras

While I agree with your stance on "building-up" from movie to movie,
at the same time, I'd say stretching it out to 6 movies is too much.
If each movie (from 2 or 3 on) is TOTALLY action-packed, with minimal human storyline,
people are going to complain that the movies are too predictable and similar, drawn-out, etc.
People, maybe even fans may say,
"How many movies of battling robots do we need?"
Are there enough characters to make each movie unique?
Possibly.
But my opinion is just throw more of them into the same movies.
And I understand one may argue,
"adding 6-8+ new characters in one movie doesn't allow each one to 'shine' enough".
BUT, I think part of that solution is
#1 Get rid of too much human storyline. They should be secondary to the TF's.
#2 Remember, some of the characters never had the chance to show a lot of personality anyway.
If you're gonna have all 6 Constructicons in a movie,
there's no reason to give each one a ton of dialogue.
Show all of them in a couple battle scenes, a little dialogue, and forming Devastator in a mind-blowing battle,
and that should be enough. Not to mention, they could survive and be in the next movie too.
Which brings me to #3...
Have most of the characters live into at least half if not most of the next movie(s).
Imo, evenif you have someone like Shockwave destroyed in the first 15 minutes of the 3rd movie, that just opens it up to add another great character for the rest of it, and maybe live into the 4th.

I just think in 4 movies, you could see a TON of awesome stuff, that includes a good story, and plenty of characters in outstanding battle scenes.
And I'd be okay with the last movie being open-ended...
Just for down-the-road possibilities.
I just really hope this doesn't get lame, like AvP...

And lastly, another reason I don't want to see too many movies,
is because I want to see Prime in all of them.
In these movies, no one else can take his place.
Not Rodimus, Ultra M., etc.
That was cool in the cartoon flick, but not in these.

I really hope Jetfire and maybe Hotrod appear in the next movie