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Pity he didn't look like this in Prime.

Mindmaster wrote:If Paralon never gets a BW Scorponok redeco, I will forever be disappointed.

Pretty sure Hasbro considers Paralon to already be the BW Scorponok redeco.

Fellow Seibertronians, TFW2005 member Prime135 has found some interesting listings in the Toys R Us computer system. One new listing for an as of yet unknown set entitled 'Decepticon Showdown'. With a price listed as $39.99, it seems like it will be a giftset of some sort, and will likely include several figures, likely representing both factions, although who they are remains to be seen. Another is a listing for a previously unknown RID Power Surge version of Starscream listed as being $29.99. So with two previously unknown figures, Starscream seems to be getting a lot of attention now, might this point to his return to the series? So what do you make of this news? Who do you think is in this giftset? Let us know in the comments below.

Sabrblade wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:If Paralon never gets a BW Scorponok redeco, I will forever be disappointed.

Pretty sure Hasbro considers Paralon to already be the BW Scorponok redeco.

Pity they couldn't even do that right then, and give him his proper colors

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:If Paralon never gets a BW Scorponok redeco, I will forever be disappointed.

Pretty sure Hasbro considers Paralon to already be the BW Scorponok redeco.

Pity they couldn't even do that right then, and give him his proper colors

Its not like they did in the past:


Transformers Beast Wars Scorponok (Scorpos) Gallery

william-james88 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:If Paralon never gets a BW Scorponok redeco, I will forever be disappointed.

Pretty sure Hasbro considers Paralon to already be the BW Scorponok redeco.

Pity they couldn't even do that right then, and give him his proper colors

Its not like they did in the past:


Transformers Beast Wars Scorponok (Scorpos) Gallery

I don't get what you're trying to say

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:If Paralon never gets a BW Scorponok redeco, I will forever be disappointed.

Pretty sure Hasbro considers Paralon to already be the BW Scorponok redeco.

Pity they couldn't even do that right then, and give him his proper colors

Hasbro exec 1: "So, now that we have this new Scorponok toy, what can we redeco/retool it as?"

Hasbro exec 2: "Hrm, well, he's already Scorponok. Are there any other scorpion-based TFs?"

Hasbro exec 1: "Let's see... Hey, Beast Wars had a Scorponok that was very different from most Scorponoks!"

Hasbro exec 2: "Okay, let's do that! What color was he?"

Hasbro exec 1: "Kinda dark, I think. Purple, maybe?"

Hasbro exec 2: "Yeah, I think that sounds right. We'll go with that."

Hasbro exec 1: "Purple it is! My man!"

Hasbro exec 2: "My man!"

*body slam*

william-james88 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:If Paralon never gets a BW Scorponok redeco, I will forever be disappointed.

Pretty sure Hasbro considers Paralon to already be the BW Scorponok redeco.

Pity they couldn't even do that right then, and give him his proper colors

Its not like they did in the past:


Transformers Beast Wars Scorponok (Scorpos) Gallery

In defense of the original toy, the toy came before the show design. The show deviated from the toy, rather than vice versa.

Hellscream9999 wrote:I don't get what you're trying to say

Hasbro's BW Scorponok toys were never the samecolour as the show, thats all I meant.

However, giving it a closer look, he's not that far off:

Sabrblade wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:If Paralon never gets a BW Scorponok redeco, I will forever be disappointed.

Pretty sure Hasbro considers Paralon to already be the BW Scorponok redeco.

Pity they couldn't even do that right then, and give him his proper colors

Hasbro exec 1: "So, now that we have this new Scorponok toy, what can we redeco/retool it as?"

Hasbro exec 2: "Hrm, well, he's already Scorponok. Are there any other scorpion-based TFs?"

Hasbro exec 1: "Let's see... Hey, Beast Wars had a Scorponok that was very different from most Scorponoks!"

Hasbro exec 2: "Okay, let's do that! What color was he?"

Hasbro exec 1: "Kinda dark, I think. Purple, maybe?"

Hasbro exec 2: "Yeah, I think that sounds right. We'll go with that."

Hasbro exec 1: "Purple it is! My man!"

Hasbro exec 2: "My man!"

*body slam*

I honestly can believe that, which is really, really sad. It honestly feels like every bw 'celebratory' thing they try to do ends up being awkward and half-a$$ed, and ends up coming across as a slap in the face to bw fans... 'Hey we're not going to celebrate the anniversary this year', 'hey here's a bmach figure from rid dressed up as g1 prime', 'hey, here's an inappropriately colored bw scorponok homage'... all they had to do was give him black plastic (or whatever color he was translucent gunmetal maybe, some of the photo's look like it)

william-james88 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:I don't get what you're trying to say

Hasbro's BW Scorponok toys were never the samecolour as the show, thats all I meant.

However, giving it a closer look, he's not that far off:

Yeah, but he's not purple, he's a weird gunmetal blue-grey-ish lavender, I honestly don't know what color he is, but the paralon colors are not that, they aren't even close

You sound so surprised. John Warden is pretty much a hard-core GEEWUNer who refers to Beast Wars as the "dark times". There's a reason over at /toy/ we call him John "Not Muh GEEWUN, Not Getting Done" Warden (along with John "Beast Wars was a mistake" Warden, John "Hollow Torso, Limbs Even Moreso" Warden etc).

Delta Magnus wrote:You sound so surprised. John Warden is pretty much a hard-core GEEWUNer who refers to Beast Wars as the "dark times". There's a reason over at /toy/ we call him John "Not Muh GEEWUN, Not Getting Done" Warden (along with John "Beast Wars was a mistake" Warden, John "Hollow Torso, Limbs Even Moreso" Warden etc).

Really? I didnt know that. Any links to quotes that show how he feels about Beast Wars?

I like very much this Warrior Starscream that just came from the RID line, mix between G1 movie and Armada.

william-james88 wrote:

Delta Magnus wrote:You sound so surprised. John Warden is pretty much a hard-core GEEWUNer who refers to Beast Wars as the "dark times". There's a reason over at /toy/ we call him John "Not Muh GEEWUN, Not Getting Done" Warden (along with John "Beast Wars was a mistake" Warden, John "Hollow Torso, Limbs Even Moreso" Warden etc).

Really? I didnt know that. Any links to quotes that show how he feels about Beast Wars?

I'm afraid I don't have any quotes on me, no. It's funny, I could have sworn I'd seen it somewhere but it seems to have been scrubbed from the internet. Doesn't help the biggest compendium of TF knowledge (TFWiki) is run by literal Hasbro shills who actually go out of their way to scrub anything that goes against the "Party line" from the wiki, so they probably would have removed it.
EDIT: Never mind, found a screenshot courtesy of the Allspark. It is from David Willis/ItsWalky though so YMMV on reliability.




Anyway, this is off topic and I apologize.

I wonder what TAV Starscream is going to look like?

Hellscream9999 wrote:Yeah, but he's not purple, he's a weird gunmetal blue-grey-ish lavender, I honestly don't know what color he is, but the paralon colors are not that, they aren't even close

Does it really matter at all in the grand scheme of things?


Lavender and Purple are hardly different colors their just different shades of the same thing Paralon is a Beast Wars Homage not actually the Beast Wars character himself.


Why don't you just paint it if you don't like the color palette and if you can't paint then get a buddy too that's what I do.

Ok, I want to get that Starscream, and I want to get that version of Prime. The Thunderclash vehicle mode colors just work for me, especially with the robot mode. I'm ignoring the repaint decepticons, so this guy will go the same way as Scatterspike

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Ok, I want to get that Starscream, and I want to get that version of Prime. The Thunderclash vehicle mode colors just work for me, especially with the robot mode. I'm ignoring the repaint decepticons, so this guy will go the same way as Scatterspike

I got them all. While I dont like repaints, I got Paralon because I just wanted to try out that mold and this one came out first. Plus that head is amazing, gorgeous paint apps on it. He has great paint and colour all around with a nice mix of plastic colours. I will be reviewing them all tonight

For now, here is the box assortment, where we can see that Starscream makes up half of the box. This may be an indication that Hasbro is aware of how sought after this toy would be and that this was indeed the first planned release of this mold.

Huh, interesting. I may be making my run tonight so we'll see if US TRU has this guy

I was able to purchase the three Toysrus Exclusive Clash of the Transformers 2016 figures from the Robots in Diguise Line. Pictures with comparisons to others toys, along with a written review of each will be posted later and in the meantime I wanted to point out the box assortment and post some clearer images of the art and official stock images found on the boxes, which also showcase the transformation.

Here is the box assortment, where we can see that Starscream makes up half of the box (with two Primes and two Paralons). This may be an indication that Hasbro is aware of how sought after this toy would be and that this is indeed the first planned release of this mold and the main release of this character in the warrior class.



Below you will find the box bar codes along with the side art. Only Starcream's art is accurate. Optimus is reused with no change in colour (unlike the toy) and Paralon has the wrong head.

Those images are followed by the back of the box of each of them, which showcases Hasbro's 3d rendered stock images which will probably be featured when these figures are officially revealed. You can also see the transformation steps.











While it seems Starscream has the least steps, he actually turns out to be the most complex. We will dive into this more with the upcoming pictorial reviews so stay tuned.

Will, not sure if you've opened them yet, but does it look to you like Optimus's forearms are the same as the previous Warrior toy's? Wondering if they would need that same fan mod.

Man, the stock photos make 'Scream look a lot worse than he is...that's why I look for in hand pictures and reviews, the stock photos often make a good toy look awful...

They do not. The new warrior Power surge Primes have the truck grill end up on the shoulder pads, so the fists are no longer blocked by kibble. no fan mod needed here

Cobotron wrote:Will, not sure if you've opened them yet, but does it look to you like Optimus's forearms are the same as the previous Warrior toy's? Wondering if they would need that same fan mod.

They arent

I will be showing comparison pics tonight. For now, just look at the shoulders, you will see how far they extend which means there is a smaller panel on the forearms.

Sigma Magnus wrote:Man, the stock photos make 'Scream look a lot worse than he is...that's why I look for in hand pictures and reviews, the stock photos often make a good toy look awful...

Well for Starscream, the stock photos are pretty accurate. he doesnt look better than that in hand. The vehicle actually looks a bit worse in hand, this angle is very misleading.