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MyFigureCollection.net collection · by **Emerje** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 6:37 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Not when Taobao is a C2C site rather than a B2C site. It's like if some Joe Shmoe were to have put up those same listings on eBay, and we'd certainly know better than to view something like that as truth.

Thanks for clearing that up, I thought it was a legit retail site.

It's legit, but it's like Amazon in that anyone can sell anything on there so if a seller hears a rumor and wants to get the jump on others incase they're real they list them.

There are a few problems with the listing that I posted here, but I'll summarize:

Price - They list them at 8,400jpy when until the highest price of cars have been about 7,000jpy. Maybe a bigger figure like Ironhide would cost that, but not Tracks and Road Rage.
Release order - Takara Tomy now staggers similar molds. Wheeljack -> Bumblebee -> Exhaust -> G2 Bumblebee.
Numbers - Even when Takara Tomy does announce figures they don't always announce their number until later in production. It's not normal to give them numbers this early.
Fembot - Road Rage might work as an exclusive repaint, but as a Masterpiece she'll look mighty funny in a masculine body. This isn't Binaltech. And really, Road Rage before Arcee? I don't know about that.

Now, that's not to say we won't get Tracks and Ironhide, but the listing has too many issues.

Emerje

News Credits: 4 · by **padfoo** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 6:42 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Desslok2201 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Syn_13 wrote: I'd be well up for that, but I wouldn't know what mould they'd use. Possibly Prime/Menasor, but again, not sure if they'd use it a 3rd time.

Or fourth time if the Defensor rumours are true.

They'll use a mold until it spontaneously combusts. How many iterations of the classics seeker mold are there?

Well to be honest, I do love that seeker mold.

The seeker mold is indeed amazing! :BOWDOWN:

News Credits: 6 · by **Dr. Caelus** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 7:18 pm

Syn_13 wrote:I appreciate the little tweaks to what is essentially the same mould with the Aerialbots. They could've easily done a Seeker mould thing and just simply recoloured the 4 bots, but they at least made slight changes. I do think that was the reason why they threw in Alpha Bravo, simply because they didn't want it becoming too repetitive.

The CW aerialbots definitely don't all use the same basic mold. Firefly I transformed out of the package without a hitch, but Skydive I was stumped even trying to follow the instructions, because his shoulders transform weird. The only bit I can imagine is the same across those figures is the combiner jack, because you would definitely want that to be standardized. Otherwise they're about as similar as Jazz and Prowl traditionally are.

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 7:33 pm

Seibertronians Downshift and Dead Metal have made us aware that there is more news and rumours coming from Toyfair HK, another show going on right now. An attendee summarized the transformer highlights in a post on actoys.net. It adds more detail to some of the recent rumours and gives more information regarding Generations Devastator, along with listing more G1 rereleases. The original post is translated below by cybertron.ca user chroma 23.

美版:美复G1铁甲龙、三尖头套装、闪电和大火车套装、录音机和感知器套装(磁带好像是钢钎和犀牛，感知器的肩炮有特殊用处类似能看幻灯片)

US re-release tripticon, conheads set, blitzwing & astrotrain set, Perceptor & Blaster set: cassettes included looks like to be the animals, and the shoulder cannon on perceptor has some special purpose, rumored to be able to view slide shows

idw的大力神确实不错绝对泰坦级，因为是全年龄的所以单体的变形大家就别指望了，展示品都是手工未完成品貌似肘关节不能动，组合方面下半年还有一个守护神，但只展示了热点感觉也一般。滑翔机还有一个紫色狂派重涂不知道叫什么，同级别还有个战戟，还有几个没记住。坦克威确实不错还有个绿色。

IDW Devastator is indeed Titan class, because it's designed for all ages, do not expect much in terms of individual bot's transformations (complexity i presume). displayed toy looks like a WIP hand-made (or painted) prototype and joints do not seem to move (my guess it's like the combiner wars at SDCC where the joints are hot glued?). for combiner wars, the latter half of the year will feature defensor, but for now they only showed hotspot but doesn't look too interesting. powerglide will have a purple decepticon repaint but dunno what the new name will be. other combiner wars legend class (like powerglide) include warpath and a few others that i couldn't remember. there will be a green repaint for the tank (assuming he's referring to warpath)

日版:会有很多D级人物，都不是主线人物所以没细看，ps擎天柱和md老威不错但站立有些困难。组合方面增加电镀和还原单体成员G1配色。

japan releases: will have alot of deluxe class characters, but they aren't main characters do i didnt pay attention. PSX prime and MD megs is not bad but do not seem to stand pretty well. bundles (my guess is JP releases of generations figures?) will have additional chrome and more G1 accurate colors

MP:今年预计就发5个，mp25和某宝放出的预定款一样，配件是洛尔和收音机，大家去看看52集就懂了，只看了灰模貌似可动性又提高了不少。21G没有斯派克改成飞行背包了比较坑，但官方介绍会降低售价。

MP: there will be 5 MPs this year. MP25 is the same as the rumors going around (tracks/ironhide). accessories include.....something (my guess will be Raoul and a radio (blaster) in reference to season 2 episode 36 "auto-bop"). they showed a gray prototype and looks posability is good. MP21G (G2 bee) will only include a jet pack replacing the exo-suit, but the price will be adjusted and reduced

by **Killraven** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 7:34 pm

OMG, I would love the MP Galvatron and Shockwave. Please take my money

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 7:50 pm

Caelus wrote:
Syn_13 wrote:I appreciate the little tweaks to what is essentially the same mould with the Aerialbots. They could've easily done a Seeker mould thing and just simply recoloured the 4 bots, but they at least made slight changes. I do think that was the reason why they threw in Alpha Bravo, simply because they didn't want it becoming too repetitive.

The CW aerialbots definitely don't all use the same basic mold. Firefly I transformed out of the package without a hitch, but Skydive I was stumped even trying to follow the instructions, because his shoulders transform weird. The only bit I can imagine is the same across those figures is the combiner jack, because you would definitely want that to be standardized. Otherwise they're about as similar as Jazz and Prowl traditionally are.

I am really happy to hear that since I thought they were all just minor retools. I cant wait for these now.

News Credits: 3 · by **prjkt** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 8:21 pm

Purple Powerglide... G2 Ransack?

News Credits: 3 · by **prjkt** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 8:22 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Caelus wrote:
Syn_13 wrote:I appreciate the little tweaks to what is essentially the same mould with the Aerialbots. They could've easily done a Seeker mould thing and just simply recoloured the 4 bots, but they at least made slight changes. I do think that was the reason why they threw in Alpha Bravo, simply because they didn't want it becoming too repetitive.

The CW aerialbots definitely don't all use the same basic mold. Firefly I transformed out of the package without a hitch, but Skydive I was stumped even trying to follow the instructions, because his shoulders transform weird. The only bit I can imagine is the same across those figures is the combiner jack, because you would definitely want that to be standardized. Otherwise they're about as similar as Jazz and Prowl traditionally are.

I am really happy to hear that since I thought they were all just minor retools. I cant wait for these now.

Pretty sure Air Raid and Skydive's legs/lower half are the same mould (even the weapons appear the same), but even so, top halves being different, definitely NOT a minor retool.

by **Desslok2201** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 8:34 pm

Wow. If we remove the assumptions made by the writer, in parentheses, the last paragraph tells us that MP25 will be a character which has been mentioned in rumors and includes....something.

by **CrankyOldTruck** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 8:38 pm

"IDW Devastator is indeed Titan class, because it's designed for all ages, do not expect much in terms of individual bot's transformations (complexity i presume). displayed toy looks like a WIP hand-made (or painted) prototype and joints do not seem to move (my guess it's like the combiner wars at SDCC where the joints are hot glued?). for combiner wars, the latter half of the year will feature defensor, but for now they only showed hotspot but doesn't look too interesting. powerglide will have a purple decepticon repaint but dunno what the new name will be. other combiner wars legend class (like powerglide) include warpath and a few others that i couldn't remember. there will be a green repaint for the tank (assuming he's referring to warpath)"

So despite an incredible amount of hype and a very strong start to this new series we can pretty much expect it to end up as a repaint-a-palooza and everyones dreams of the Devastator that they always wanted will wind up being... basically a super-sized RotF Devastator.

I am laughing so hard right now. :lol:

This is the only time I wished T-Macksimus was still around. he could be a bigger prick about this and say I Told You So in a way that I could never hope to match.
It really does look like Hasbro is about to do it to us all over again. #-o

On the plus side, it's nice to know that I can stop collecting this line pretty much after the 3rd wave is released. By that point, I should have every figure that is supposed to come out for the next two years, just not in the colors Hasbro intends to use for them all.

News Credits: 3597 · by **Seibertron** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 8:41 pm

I'm really hoping for a new cartoon accurate head for perceptor. That would be really awesome!

by **Desslok2201** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 8:51 pm

Seibertron wrote:I'm really hoping for a new cartoon accurate head for perceptor. That would be really awesome!

That totally would, but I'd like to have the thinner shoulder mounted microscope barrel from the cartoon also, the thought of it having to be a projector or something also kind of puts me off

by **shockblast2** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 8:56 pm

CrankyOldTruck wrote:"IDW Devastator is indeed Titan class, because it's designed for all ages, do not expect much in terms of individual bot's transformations (complexity i presume). displayed toy looks like a WIP hand-made (or painted) prototype and joints do not seem to move (my guess it's like the combiner wars at SDCC where the joints are hot glued?). for combiner wars, the latter half of the year will feature defensor, but for now they only showed hotspot but doesn't look too interesting. powerglide will have a purple decepticon repaint but dunno what the new name will be. other combiner wars legend class (like powerglide) include warpath and a few others that i couldn't remember. there will be a green repaint for the tank (assuming he's referring to warpath)"

So despite an incredible amount of hype and a very strong start to this new series we can pretty much expect it to end up as a repaint-a-palooza and everyones dreams of the Devastator that they always wanted will wind up being... basically a super-sized RotF Devastator.

I am laughing so hard right now. This is the only time I wished T-Macksimus was still around. he could be a bigger prick about this and say I Told You So in a way that I could never hope to match.
It really does look like Hasbro is about to do it to us all over again. On the plus side, it's nice to know that I can stop collecting this line pretty much after the 3rd wave is released. By that point, I should have every figure that is supposed to come out for the next two years, just not in the colors Hasbro intends to use for them all.

What is so funny? The fact that this line is pretty much ruined for you in your eyes? That is too bad. I'm personally looking forward to Defensor, all the legends figures no matter what they are, and Devastator. It would be excellent if they were in a more simplified form. Maybe not one steps, but 6-8 would be perfect. As far as the look of it, even the one steps look good these days with all the laser mold cutting tech out there.

This doesn't even consider the rumored Ironhide, Mirage, Prowl, and Sunstreaker figures, AND a Leader Ultra Magnus. Or any other cool legends figures we might see, like Brawn, who has to be up very soon.

It is unfortunate the line sucks in your eyes, because in my opinion, this is one of the best years for the line.

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 9:03 pm

Desslok2201 wrote:
Seibertron wrote:I'm really hoping for a new cartoon accurate head for perceptor. That would be really awesome!

That totally would, but I'd like to have the thinner shoulder mounted microscope barrel from the cartoon also, the thought of it having to be a projector or something also kind of puts me off

only kind of remolding towards G1 figures we.ve ever had is the encore line no? i doubt a hasbro reissue would go to such lengths.

@crankyoldtruck
isnt it a little early for snarky laughs and i-told-you-so's? not only is that kind of thing not appreciated, but theres nothing concrete (like pics or proto's) to laugh about. not yet anyways.

by **Nemesis Maximo** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 9:03 pm

By the sound of it, they have an actual prototype of Devastator on the floor. I certainly hope they release some pics soon.

by **Desslok2201** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 9:04 pm

I'd say given this info on Devastator I'm going to wait for pictures. I'm not really a big fan of IDW designs as it is, and for all we know IDW Devy means Prowl. If so, no sale. I'm not too scared of simplified, I mean, how complex were the G1 constructicons anyway? They were all green, though. And all decepticons.

by **Robogeek1973** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 9:07 pm

I'm not too worried about Devastator being too simplified right now. If he's handled similar to Superion, then I've got the feeling I'm gonna LOVE the thing.

As long as there's six components that is. :lol:

by **Desslok2201** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 9:20 pm

shajaki wrote:
Desslok2201 wrote:
Seibertron wrote:I'm really hoping for a new cartoon accurate head for perceptor. That would be really awesome!

That totally would, but I'd like to have the thinner shoulder mounted microscope barrel from the cartoon also, the thought of it having to be a projector or something also kind of puts me off
only kind of remolding towards G1 figures we.ve ever had is the encore line no? i doubt a hasbro reissue would go to such lengths.

Any other time I'd say you're right, but there is the mention of perceptor being able to view slide shows, which the original cannot do

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 9:40 pm

prjkt wrote:Purple Powerglide... G2 Ransack?

Cobra Rattler.

News Credits: 3597 · by **Seibertron** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 9:52 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
prjkt wrote:Purple Powerglide... G2 Ransack?
Cobra Rattler.

if it's Blue!

News Credits: 41 · by **Cobotron** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 9:53 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
prjkt wrote:Purple Powerglide... G2 Ransack?
Cobra Rattler.

Storm Cloud, maybe?

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 9:57 pm

Seibertron wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
prjkt wrote:Purple Powerglide... G2 Ransack?
Cobra Rattler.

if it's Blue!

Yeah, I'm thinking (hoping) the "purple" is really closer to blue.

After all, the original Walmart listing identified it as "DPT Viper", and the Cobra Vipers did tend to dress more in blue than purple.

by **Nemesis Maximo** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:15 pm

Robogeek1973 wrote:I'm not too worried about Devastator being too simplified right now. If he's handled similar to Superion, then I've got the feeling I'm gonna LOVE the thing.

As long as there's six components that is.

Amen, RG.

News Credits: 1 · by **Gallifreyan Autobot** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:25 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
prjkt wrote:Purple Powerglide... G2 Ransack?
Cobra Rattler.

what i want to see out of a retooled Powerglide is Cybertron Sky-fall with parts for arm and leg for a particular member of the 13

MyFigureCollection.net collection · by **Emerje** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:51 pm

FYI, the original post from ACToys doesn't mention HK Toy Fair, just a conference. HK Toy Fair was last week so either this guy waited a week to share this and somehow after all this time was the first to report anything, or it's a different event. (Or he just made the whole thing up.)

Just remember that the translations are third hand information and required some guess work. The original source appeared to be only a little interested and was very vague in describing some things. For example I think some of the Takara stuff he was looking at was Transformers Adventures (RID) toon stuff while the box sets were the Aerialbots and Stunticons.

Sabrblade wrote:After all, the original Walmart listing identified it as "DPT Viper", and the Cobra Vipers did tend to dress more in blue than purple.

Ah, Viper, that was the name. I kept thinking Rattle or something, but couldn't find the original report that came from. I assume on Cybertron he was a window washer?

Emerje