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I have some questions and would appreciate your thoughts....

I am an avid collector of the toys and would like to know for fact if any of the following actually transform and do something in the movie: Stratosphere, Dune Runner, Jolt, Dead End, Breakaway, Smokescreen, Reverb, Swerve, Ransack, Knock Out, Dirt Boss, Depthcharge, Blaze Master, Rollbar.....I think Hasbro made a bunch of extras like they did in '07. I know that Cannon Bumblebee, Interrogator Barricade, and Deep Desert Brawl are extras. Bumblebee never had cannons like that, Barricade interrogated in T1 not T2, and I didn't see Brawl but could've missed him in the final battle, maybe.

I have identified Chromia and Arcee, but aren't there are three motorcycle autobots?...who is the third one??

Which one do the Decepticons kill to resurrect Megatron?? (kill the little one)

I also have a plot flaw/question. How are Rampage, Long Haul, and Mixmaster part of Devastator and also separate in the final battle at the same time?? All three are part of Devastator and are taking apart the pyramid while the battle is going on. I have now seen the movie three times and can't explain this. Rampage gets in a fight with Bumblebee, Long Haul is part of the battle alongside Megatron, Soundwave, and Starscream, and Mixmaster is the one that Jetfire takes apart when he finally gets in the battle; again, all three are part of Devastator as well. Am I the only one who saw this?????

Alright Jolt is the only one u listed that is actually in the movie. Bumblebee did use those cannons in the first movie. Trust me you're not the only on to notice this one; it's been known that either Devi has clones or more likley he is a single bot made up of constructicon vehicles that don't transform. The third bike named Flareup, she's the purple one. No currets plans on a toy. The one they killed to resurect megatron is likley a Scrapper clone.

Your questions have been answered, the only correction I would make is that "ze littel wan" is called Hightower. I am not 100% sure, but a lot of people have agreed on this.

And also, it seems Barricade was in RoTF, if only for the moment it took to kidnap Sam's parents. Not really "interrogator."

Rodimus Prime wrote:Your questions have been answered, the only correction I would make is that "ze littel wan" is called Hightower. I am not 100% sure, but a lot of people have agreed on this.

And also, it seems Barricade was in RoTF, if only for the moment it took to kidnap Sam's parents. Not really "interrogator."

he looked more like scraper to me besides I don't recall seeing a crane amung the bots that jumped off the cargo ship

It was actually a completely different Constructicon that transformed into a normal sized yellow excavator. The character is not named and has no current toys, nor none planned at this moment.

As for Sam's parents kidnapper, I think that was another Blackout clone like Grindor. Makes sense, as I don't believe Barricade could have gotten them from France to Egypt as easily as a helicopter could.

But yes, Interrogator Barricade and Bumblebee are new and improved to be more Movie 1 accurate. So if you don't have either from the 1st movie, they are worth picking up.

And TECHNICALLY, Stratosphere IS in Revenge of the Fallen, but only in vehicle mode. So it can be debatable exactly how essential to a "only in the movie" collector this piece really is.

According to some pics I've seen, Bumblebee does infact have those cannons.

Flare-up.

Edit: I don't know anymore.

Two Devastators.
One made up of robots not seen with seperate robot modes.
And one where the seperate robot modes are seen.
The second Devastator was not made because they killed one of the constructicons.

Remember, two Devastators = more toys.

Ill answer who they killed to revive Megatron since the other questions are pretty much answered.
The character they killed for parts for Megatron was indeed Scrapper. The Decepticons who went down to revive Megatron were
Ravage
Scalpel/ the doctor
Mixmaster
Long Haul
Rampage
Scrapper
Ive watched this scene over 23 times, its not Hightower, as Hightower's robot mode doesnt appear in the movie ever. People who suspect the one killed for parts was also Overload, but once again Overload never transformers in the movie.

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Ze_little_one

TexHex wrote:I have some questions and would appreciate your thoughts....
I am an avid collector of the toys and would like to know for fact if any of the following actually transform and do something in the movie: Stratosphere, Dune Runner, Jolt, Dead End, Breakaway, Smokescreen, Reverb, Swerve, Ransack, Knock Out, Dirt Boss, Depthcharge, Blaze Master, Rollbar.....I think Hasbro made a bunch of extras like they did in '07. I know that Cannon Bumblebee, Interrogator Barricade, and Deep Desert Brawl are extras. Bumblebee never had cannons like that, Barricade interrogated in T1 not T2, and I didn't see Brawl but could've missed him in the final battle, maybe.

Jolt is in the movie. He is a late arrival to the Autobots. Ransack is one of the old seekers Wheelie pointed out. Depthcharge, Dune Runner, Blaze Master and Stratosphere are based off vehicles in the film. Breakaway is in the Video Game. I would have liked him in the film actually. He is really cool. The Barricade and Brawl are just rehashes. Same with Bumblebee. Hasbro does that alot.

I have identified Chromia and Arcee, but aren't there are three motorcycle autobots?...who is the third one??

Flareup is the third, she is the purple bike.

Which one do the Decepticons kill to resurrect Megatron?? (kill the little one)

Apparently it was a unnamed Volvo Front loader. See the other posts or that Wiki article.

I also have a plot flaw/question. How are Rampage, Long Haul, and Mixmaster part of Devastator and also separate in the final battle at the same time?? All three are part of Devastator and are taking apart the pyramid while the battle is going on. I have now seen the movie three times and can't explain this. Rampage gets in a fight with Bumblebee, Long Haul is part of the battle alongside Megatron, Soundwave, and Starscream, and Mixmaster is the one that Jetfire takes apart when he finally gets in the battle; again, all three are part of Devastator as well. Am I the only one who saw this?????

Devastator is sorta like Voltron or a Megazord in the movies. He transforms from a giant robot into a bunch of construction vehicles. Hasbro just named them for selling purposes. They all are actually just devastator components.
There is another set of constructicons that don't form devastator. They are Demolisher (Red Excavator, killed in shanghai), Long Haul (Giant green Dumptruck, in Egypt battle, helps revive Megatron), Rampage (Red Bulldozer, Toy is yellow, Fights Bumblebee), Mixmaster (Black cement mixer, killed by Jetfire), Scrapper (Yellow Front load shovel, Seen chasing Sam in Egypt).
Overload and Hightower are never seen transforming. They may just be Devastator components.

Hope that helped.