I just came across this a second ago. He was my favorite of the Headmasters. I need to know if he is the real deal or not. Can someone help?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Transformers-G1-Hea ... 3cbac227e0
Real or Knock Off?.......
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NTESHFT - Brainmaster
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Re: Real or Knock Off?.......
- Motto: "The only good is knowledge, and the only evil is ignorance."
I've yet to see KO's of Nightbeat, but I still would avoid sellers like him. He has to have come across a nice volume of toys for a reason, and the most likely reason (to me) is that they're KO's being sold as the real deal. I'm a bit paranoid about that.
If I were you, I'd look elsewhere, especially if you're planning on opening him up. $150 for one MISB Nightbeat is a bit too rich for my blood, unless it was his transgendered repaint Minerva.
If I were you, I'd look elsewhere, especially if you're planning on opening him up. $150 for one MISB Nightbeat is a bit too rich for my blood, unless it was his transgendered repaint Minerva.
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Looking for:
- TR Furos (Hardhead's head) and Crashbash (lost him

- PotP Punch head
- TR Galvatron right arm (the gun one)
- CW Brake-Neck/UW Wildrider, CW Offroad
- TR Twinferno & Grotusque
- Greenlight, Lancer and PotP Elita-1
- Legacy Core Slug, Sludge & Snarl
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Re: Real or Knock Off?.......
- Motto: "Science can't move forward without heaps!"
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Judging by the damage to the boxes, and comparing them to a known, graded example, I would tentatively ID those as being real. I'd be willing to bet they're NOS (probably been sitting in a warehouse or shipping container these last 24 years), rather than from someone's collection though.
They're all sold now anyway, so the point's moot.
They're all sold now anyway, so the point's moot.

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Skyfire77 - Headmaster
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Re: Real or Knock Off?.......
- Motto: "Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici"
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These are most likely real. There was a pretty well recorded 2007 or early 2008 warehouse find of G1 Nightbeat cases: all in European (French / Dutch language) boxes (as these are). The only thing 'wrong' with the item listing is his statement that these are "extremely rare seen" versions. They are actually relatively common and regularly pop up on eBay, at around the price these are going for, BTW. They are indeed officially licensed Hasbro products, but re-released in China in 1995.
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I've dealt with this seller before and he's dependable. I actually think he's the original finder, and he's been dripping these Nightbeats onto eBay since 2008 (check his feedback). Judging by his feedback, he also found a stock of Landcross'es, Road Caesar's and perhaps even some LioKaisers.
Looks like he's selling these from best quality to worse... So this might mean he's slowly running out of stock.
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I've dealt with this seller before and he's dependable. I actually think he's the original finder, and he's been dripping these Nightbeats onto eBay since 2008 (check his feedback). Judging by his feedback, he also found a stock of Landcross'es, Road Caesar's and perhaps even some LioKaisers.
Looks like he's selling these from best quality to worse... So this might mean he's slowly running out of stock.
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Thanks for the input.

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Re: Real or Knock Off?.......
Skyfire77 wrote:Judging by the damage to the boxes, and comparing them to a known, graded example, I would tentatively ID those as being real. I'd be willing to bet they're NOS (probably been sitting in a warehouse or shipping container these last 24 years), rather than from someone's collection though.
They're all sold now anyway, so the point's moot.
As of august 10,2011 at 11:57 pm their are still 4 left in that ebay auction.
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Re: Real or Knock Off?.......
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deathy wrote:Skyfire77 wrote:Judging by the damage to the boxes, and comparing them to a known, graded example, I would tentatively ID those as being real. I'd be willing to bet they're NOS (probably been sitting in a warehouse or shipping container these last 24 years), rather than from someone's collection though.
They're all sold now anyway, so the point's moot.
As of august 10,2011 at 11:57 pm their are still 4 left in that ebay auction.
Huh, so they are. Weird. I swear they were all sold when I looked.


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Skyfire77 wrote:deathy wrote:Skyfire77 wrote:Judging by the damage to the boxes, and comparing them to a known, graded example, I would tentatively ID those as being real. I'd be willing to bet they're NOS (probably been sitting in a warehouse or shipping container these last 24 years), rather than from someone's collection though.
They're all sold now anyway, so the point's moot.
As of august 10,2011 at 11:57 pm their are still 4 left in that ebay auction.
Huh, so they are. Weird. I swear they were all sold when I looked.
I think he put more up for sale. Somebody mentioned earlier he has a whole bunch and has been slowly putting them up for sale.
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Re: Real or Knock Off?.......
- Motto: "60% of the time, it works every time!"
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Hopefully i'll get the cash soon for him. My b-day is coming up.
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NTESHFT - Brainmaster
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