Rediscovering The Joy of Collecting

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Re: Rediscovering The Joy of Collecting

Postby Jason5billion » Sat Sep 02, 2017 1:08 am

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Re: Rediscovering The Joy of Collecting

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Re: Rediscovering The Joy of Collecting

Postby Jason5billion » Sat Sep 02, 2017 11:30 am

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And I heeded your warning, okay?

When I was getting Decepticon Octone ready to have his picture taken, I found a weapon accessory and was trying to figure out how to put it on him. I then saw that the weapon accessories were already on Decepticon Octone and realized this was Megatron's weapon accessory that had fallen off. Has anyone else had that happen? Oh the joys of playing with these things. I'm planning to go to another store to see if I can find other Voyager class Transformers. I want Optimus Prime, so I can even up the number of leader Transformers; and I hope it's 11 steps per mode instead of 16 or more. I'm pretty sure Broadside doesn't have that many, which just leaves me with Sandstorm and Optimus Prime to hunt for.

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Re: Rediscovering The Joy of Collecting

Postby shajaki » Sat Sep 02, 2017 11:38 am

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I'll get us back on track. I haven't weighed in on your article yet. TLDR, but I've been meaning to. It's just been a hella busy couple weeks :lol:

I might be a rare case, as I collect pretty much everything. And when it comes to the domestic (Hasbro) I still find 90% of them physically hunting local stores. I hear you about ordering online, it's pretty much the least exciting thing ever. eBay is a bit more exciting, as in it's usually a stock of one and you're gettin "a deal".

As for the fix'er uppers, I've done very little of it myself. The G1 Prime I had as a kid has a new (G2 actually) piece in his chest so he's no longer broken. And my recent G1 Jetfire had some missing pieces I'm hunting down, and I recently bought some Repro's. But really, I'm just frustrated with myself that I didn't have a keener eye when I was shopping. In the end I'll probably end up spending the same amount that I would have if I'd just bought one of the pricier "110% complete!!" listings.

But what you describe as "going through the motions" with the modern lines is... kinda how 100% of my collecting goes. Every toy has it's day/week, but then it goes on display like everything else. I find I enjoy them almost as much. But then again, that's compared to my previous collection: comics. You buy them, read them, seal them up, and put them in a box. Its not fun. At least with toys, you can still at least see them on a daily basis, and that's good enough for me.
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Re: Rediscovering The Joy of Collecting

Postby ArmadaPrime » Sat Sep 02, 2017 4:04 pm

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shajaki wrote:I hear you about ordering online, it's pretty much the least exciting thing ever. eBay is a bit more exciting, as in it's usually a stock of one and you're gettin "a deal".

I think you've hit the nail on the head here, actually. Ebay recaptures that "thrill of the hunt" in a way that can hurt you right in the wallet :lol:
There was a little twitter thread the other day about favourite 2017 pickups. Naturally it was full of Masterpieces, 3PMPs, Trypticons, and more, but I realised that what's gotten me the most excited out of my purchases this year was a classics Nemesis Prime I nabbed off ebay in the spring. Never experienced the mold before and it holds up surprisingly well, but more than that it was totally unplanned. I'd never even considered getting one, but I happened to see it there (for less than retail, on an old and semi-exclusive bot!) and thought "ooh, why not?". Doesn't really 'fit' anywhere in my collection nor do I have a 'need' for it, but it's Just Pretty Cool and sometimes that's enough imo.

shajaki wrote:But what you describe as "going through the motions" with the modern lines is... kinda how 100% of my collecting goes. Every toy has it's day/week, but then it goes on display like everything else. I find I enjoy them almost as much.

This is interesting though. I'm often much the same: get something, enjoy it, shelve it or box it when something else comes along. Recently though due both to being low on cash and to feeling kinda bad about storing so much away and ignoring it, I've taken to grabbing a random figure out and having it be my 'deskbot' for a while. Definitely recommend it to anyone, it's great to rediscover how much fun some figures that have sat in storage for ages can be!
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Re: Rediscovering The Joy of Collecting

Postby shajaki » Sat Sep 02, 2017 6:25 pm

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ArmadaPrime wrote:I realised that what's gotten me the most excited out of my purchases this year was a classics Nemesis Prime I nabbed off ebay in the spring. Never experienced the mold before and it holds up surprisingly well, but more than that it was totally unplanned. I'd never even considered getting one, but I happened to see it there (for less than retail, on an old and semi-exclusive bot!) and thought "ooh, why not?".
There are a million figures on my hit list, but I mostly only buy stuff when the price is right. But then there's the random finds (like your Nemesis Prime) and because they're unexpected.... they tend to be more exciting? I dunno. Leader Movie Starscream and MPM1 Starscream ended up being my favorite figures of the year so far!

ArmadaPrime wrote:This is interesting though. I'm often much the same: get something, enjoy it, shelve it or box it when something else comes along. Recently though due both to being low on cash and to feeling kinda bad about storing so much away and ignoring it, I've taken to grabbing a random figure out and having it be my 'deskbot' for a while.
Haha... I didn't mean to imply that my toys are never touched again after shelved. In our "whats on your desk" thread I want to share all the time, but my... desk... isn't desk. It's actually a couch, my computer sits at the end, and it pretty much is my desk. Point is, I'm pretty much surrounded by toys at all times. The new stuff is always within reach and I'm always grabbing something to transform back and forth :lol:
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Re: Rediscovering The Joy of Collecting

Postby fenrir72 » Sat Sep 02, 2017 7:05 pm

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Slow day thread. I'll bite! G1 still TOPS the best satisfaction HUNTING hands down at ebay! The most dangerous too to get easily BURNED by fakes!
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Re: Rediscovering The Joy of Collecting

Postby itscramtastic » Sat Sep 02, 2017 7:52 pm

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As my local hunting send to always leave me wanting, eBay has been my friend since I first signed up in the late '90s. You get the hunt, and then the thrill of a last second bid to win or lose. Oh man I love some eBay.

Thanks for mentioning that Shaj.

Looking at my jumbled display right now, I see things I want to part with but I also see things that make me want to complete something. Maybe I need to do this more often to rediscover the joy!

I also pulled out some of my SWVC figures..I definitely have some good ones there that ALMOST triggered some purchasing today!! Dang it joy of collecting thread!! :lol:
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Re: Rediscovering The Joy of Collecting

Postby Ironhidensh » Sat Sep 02, 2017 9:13 pm

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This thread makes me a bit sad.


I've rediscovered collecting twice now, I wonder if there will be a third time?

The first time was waaaaay back in '97 or '98, when I was a stupid teenager (sorry to the younger fans, but ALL teenagers are stupid, you'll find this out when you are older ;) ) working part time at Meijer. Star Wars toys were in the midst if the massive revival that was Power of the Force and the beginning of the EU novels, and I spent a lot of time digging through that section in the toy department. On day, I was just wandering the asleep, and noticed the Beast Wars section had something new: Transmetals.

Now, I had a vague awareness of Beast Wars, but as I thought transformer animals were ridiculous at the time, I ignored it. The Transmetals line, however, caught my eye. Maybe it was just that Shiney metallic paint, but I got real interested in a hurry. I bought a couple, discovered in loved them, and fell back in love with all things transformers. I started visiting flee markets and trade shows, and slowly started to build a G1 collection. A few years later, after discovering eBay, and the beginnings of online shopping, as well as RiD 2001 coming out, and I was a full blown collector. It was great, the hunt for the commemorative reissues, finding the new figures at retail, alternators and the start of Masterpiece and Chug. Such a great time.

Then the 1st movie happened.

While I enjoyed it, and some of the toys that came with it, it was a time of change for the Fandom, and on these boards in particular. A lot of change and drama went on, and I got burned out. I stepped back from most of the online scene and dramatically scaled back my collecting. I also started selling things on ebay, and my massive collection began shrinking piece by piece.

About 3 years ago, I started getting back into chatting online. Masterpiece was going strong. I was really digging the generations updates, and the 3rd party scene became a major player. I was havin TN fun discussions here, and it was all good again. My collection was really growing, and I enjoyed trying to be on of the first to get a new figure off of a pre-order ship.

Earlier this year, late last year, my wife's job went Topsy turvy, and our families income was cut by about 65% (I do well, but she as a nurse is the bread winner). In a bit of a panic, I started selling off my collection on a furious rate, just to make sure we had cash on hand if needed. She quickly found a new job, and all was well, so I immediately began re acquiring the figures I sold. Didn't think twice about it.

Over the last couple months, we both got nice promotions at work. We sat down and took a good look at our finances to a just for the new income/plan for the kids future and out retirement.

Now before I go further, let me add something. Many in this thread have commented on "the thrill of the hunt". That no longer is possible for me, really. Northern Indiana has become a bit of a no man's land for new figures the last couple years. Ever since AoE as a matter of fact. Every store in my area took a massive burn on those figures. Since then, they dramatically scaled back on the ordering of Transformers. Usually the first wave of a new line is stocked very well, but after that? Wave 3 of TR showed up last holiday season, and it is still on the pegs. One store got wave 4, but that is all I've seen. Mass amounts of TLK wave one is still on pegs, and I know of 2 Walmarts that have sent subsequent shipments of Transformers back to warehouse. I pretty much have to reorder online and that kills the fun. Back to my story...

For the first time in my adult life, I've taken a good hard look at how much money I spent on toys, and my friends, at the end of the day, no matter how much we love them, that is what they are: toys. It's a bit appalling. I'm almost 40 years old. I'm married, we have a house, a dog, 401ks and other savings plans, 2 college savings plans, 2 car payments, and above all else, 2 wonderful little boys who bring me more joy and happiness than I new was capable of existing in this world. This isn't a woe is me tale. My family does well, we are very blessed. For the first time, however, it strikes me that there are so many better things to do with my money and time. I look at my collection now, and all I feel is regret. The last few figures I've bought have already been turned over to my sons, as I felt zero joy from them. Even when I go into the "Robot Room" and look at my MPS, I'm not feeling anything like I used to. Regret more than anything.

I dunno, maybe it's just a slump, and I'll snap out of it like before. TLK is a horrible line, and doesn't inspire any joy, but still..... this time feels different. I really hate to use this phrase as I'm sure it may hurt some feelings of those reading, but, I really think I might finally have grown out of collecting. I just don't know how else to put it. Transformers gave me many a happy year. When I was a younger man, having darker years, there is even a good argument that they may have helped save my life.

Time and people, however, change. I guess only time will really tell.
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Re: Rediscovering The Joy of Collecting

Postby Jason5billion » Sat Sep 02, 2017 9:41 pm

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fenrir72 wrote:Slow day thread. I'll bite! G1 still TOPS the best satisfaction HUNTING hands down at ebay! The most dangerous too to get easily BURNED by fakes!


eBay is okay if you don't mind the hassle of opening a PayPal account and paying a lot for older Transformers; but if you get lucky like I did, it's possible to find a figure that old at comic book stores without messing with eBay. Even though Topspin has issues when it comes to changing him into his alt mode, he's quite a joy to have; and I found out that if you push the little black thing down on his chest, you can do it with ease. Now when it comes to TR Voyager class Transformers, those are fun to collect; but I wish Hasbro would've included instructions for getting those things by where the head goes to pop back up when turning them into robots. It took a bit, but I managed to figure out how to do it with Megatron and Decepticon Octone. With Decepticon Octone, if you push that little black thing with yellow stripes that's on the midsection, it works. With Megatron, you have to push that red peg or whatever you call it down to make them go up.

I made an offer to someone for a chance to earn my entire collection of Transformers, but the person got upset for some reason. I do like the collection a lot, so I'm pretty sure the chances of anyone being able to pull it off don't exist.
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Re: Rediscovering The Joy of Collecting

Postby Jason5billion » Sun Sep 03, 2017 11:25 am

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Here's a little chant about Transformers that I made up. It sorta dates back to grade school when dudes in my class would chant about cabbages (presumably cooked as opposed to coleslaw) being tasty. Transformers Transformers extremely fun Transformers Transformer give me some.
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Re: Rediscovering The Joy of Collecting

Postby Cobotron » Sun Sep 03, 2017 1:13 pm

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Jason5billion wrote:Here's a little chant about Transformers that I made up. It sorta dates back to grade school when dudes in my class would chant about cabbages (presumably cooked as opposed to coleslaw) being tasty. Transformers Transformers extremely fun Transformers Transformer give me some.


If you have something to add on the topic of "Rediscovering The Joy of Collecting", GREAT! Chime in on that topic. If not find a topic that best suits what it is you want to say. You have already received a warning in this thread. By my reckoning you have already amassed two warnings. A third will grant you a suspension, a policy of which I'm sure you are aware.

If you would like to not receive another warning, please, stay on topic.

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Re: Rediscovering The Joy of Collecting

Postby shajaki » Sun Sep 03, 2017 1:38 pm

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fenrir72 wrote:Slow day thread. I'll bite! G1 still TOPS the best satisfaction HUNTING hands down at ebay! The most dangerous too to get easily BURNED by fakes!
I get the feels from eBay purchases sometimes. But even the best eBay find doesn't compare to finding something great in person. Example, my uncirculated MP-23 Exhaust coin was about as an exciting of a find as my TR Overlord. Why? Overlord was in person, and SUPER new. While the coin was rarer than rare, all I got for 2-3 weeks was a picture and a receipt. Not only that, it comes with a sense of dread....

I have been burned in the past by careless sellers, and it seems that almost every time I give them the benefit of the doubt I get screwed. Usually what happens is they package half assed and I get a damaged item. So I try to be proactive, message them (politely!) just to confirm packaging practices and even say I'll pay more for additional packaging if I feel its necessary. And seriously, I'm met with hostility like 60% of the time. I start by saying its nothing personal and I'm just being proactive, but then they react like I'm attacking their professionalism. And really, if they simply stated in the auction their packaging practices then there'd be no issues. Hell, I do when I sell things. It's extremely frustrating.
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Re: Rediscovering The Joy of Collecting

Postby Burn » Sun Sep 03, 2017 1:57 pm

shajaki wrote:But even the best eBay find doesn't compare to finding something great in person.

Won't argue with this. Sadly though, such opportunities seem to be rare around my way.

I still hold out hope though that one day I'll turn up at a garage sale one Saturday morning and find a bunch of G1 figures.
(The best I've done is a movie 1 Optimus Prime and a bunch of Lego)
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Re: Rediscovering The Joy of Collecting

Postby shajaki » Sun Sep 03, 2017 2:27 pm

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Burn wrote:
shajaki wrote:But even the best eBay find doesn't compare to finding something great in person.
Won't argue with this. Sadly though, such opportunities seem to be rare around my way.

I still hold out hope though that one day I'll turn up at a garage sale one Saturday morning and find a bunch of G1 figures.
(The best I've done is a movie 1 Optimus Prime and a bunch of Lego)
What kind of shows or conventions do you have in your area Burn?

I'm not one for garage sale'ing (I would, but I'm not getting up that early on a Saturday). My city is pretty decent for conventions though. There's the Pop Culture Fair (2-3 times a year), Edmonton Expo (twice a year?), and a third one I don't remember the name of that's also 2-3 times a year. Obviously they're not TF specific, but there's always TF vendors and these fairs/shows/expos are only getting stronger. I've gotten some great stuff over the years. It brings the hunt back to life, and you'll find things you never expected.

Also I can't stress enough how great it is to connect to local resources. There's an Edmonton TF Facebook group and its also netted me some amazing things. We've also started to congregate and make our own "Botcon" as you will. It's small, but fun. Everyone is dedicated so I have high hopes for the future.
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Re: Rediscovering The Joy of Collecting

Postby Burn » Sun Sep 03, 2017 2:37 pm

shajaki wrote:What kind of shows or conventions do you have in your area Burn?

None. The closest annual convention is an eight hour drive away.

There's regular meet ups around the country, but they normally only take place in capital cities, which the closest being a two hour plane flight away.

I did put the word out on the Australian forums/FB groups, for anyone around my way but got zero response.

As for stores ... there's a comic book shop an hours drive from here but he only does new stuff.
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Re: Rediscovering The Joy of Collecting

Postby shajaki » Sun Sep 03, 2017 2:54 pm

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shajaki wrote:What kind of shows or conventions do you have in your area Burn?
None. The closest annual convention is an eight hour drive away.

There's regular meet ups around the country, but they normally only take place in capital cities, which the closest being a two hour plane flight away.

I did put the word out on the Australian forums/FB groups, for anyone around my way but got zero response.

As for stores ... there's a comic book shop an hours drive from here but he only does new stuff.
Dang. How big of a city do you live in? Perhaps I'm fortunate, I'm in the capital of my province. Although the city next to us (couple hour drive) is actually much larger and has bigger/better Expo's, and I assume more frequent. It's kind of a Springfield/Shelbyville scenario actually :lol:
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Re: Rediscovering The Joy of Collecting

Postby Burn » Sun Sep 03, 2017 3:57 pm

There's only a few thousand of us here. The nearest city (1 hr drive) probably has around 100K... I think.
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Re: Rediscovering The Joy of Collecting

Postby ExciKaiser » Sun Sep 03, 2017 4:08 pm

shajaki wrote:. And seriously, I'm met with hostility like 60% of the time. I start by saying its nothing personal and I'm just being proactive, but then they react like I'm attacking their professionalism. And really, if they simply stated in the auction their packaging practices then there'd be no issues.

To be honest, as an occasional ebay seller, if you contact me to teach me my role, you'll probably get the same hostility.
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Re: Rediscovering The Joy of Collecting

Postby shajaki » Sun Sep 03, 2017 4:20 pm

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shajaki wrote:. And seriously, I'm met with hostility like 60% of the time. I start by saying its nothing personal and I'm just being proactive, but then they react like I'm attacking their professionalism. And really, if they simply stated in the auction their packaging practices then there'd be no issues.

To be honest, as an occasional ebay seller, if you contact me to teach me my role, you'll probably get the same hostility.
As a buyer, it's about my comfort level. As I said, its not without reason and I don't approach with rudeness. If you wanna talk professionalism, you should be able to answer a simple question to put a potential buyer at ease. Otherwise you shouldn't be selling things.
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Re: Rediscovering The Joy of Collecting

Postby ExciKaiser » Sun Sep 03, 2017 4:35 pm

If you contact a seller by asking him to package correctly, it means you assume he don't package correctly by default.

Apparently you don't seem to realize it, but it's extremely insulting. Wathever way you present it. Not even mentionning things like "don't take it personally". There's absolutely no way to present this kind of request in a not insulting way.

I can understand you laybe had one or two issue in the past, but really, don't do thing kind of things, you only worsen the relation between buyers and sellers.
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Re: Rediscovering The Joy of Collecting

Postby Ironhidensh » Sun Sep 03, 2017 4:38 pm

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ExciKaiser wrote:If you contact a seller by asking him to package correctly, it means you assume he don't package correctly by default.

Apparently you don't seem to realize it, but it's extremely insulting. Wathever way you present it. Not even mentionning things like "don't take it personally". There's absolutely no way to present this kind of request in a not insulting way.

I can understand you laybe had one or two issue in the past, but really, don't do thing kind of things, you only worsen the relation between buyers and sellers.



No.

I've sold a lot on ebay as well, and have been contacted many times with packaging requests. It is in no way insulting. It's the buyers item. Own, and they have every right to make requests. If you find that insulting, eBay is perhaps not the place for you.
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Re: Rediscovering The Joy of Collecting

Postby shajaki » Sun Sep 03, 2017 4:53 pm

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ExciKaiser wrote:If you contact a seller by asking him to package correctly, it means you assume he don't package correctly by default.
That is not how I approach the situation. Because they don't detail their packaging practices, I simply ask how. If it's something very sensitive (and really, with TF's it usually isn't) I ask if they can provide more at MY expense obviously.

ExciKaiser wrote:Apparently you don't seem to realize it, but it's extremely insulting. Wathever way you present it. Not even mentionning things like "don't take it personally". There's absolutely no way to present this kind of request in a not insulting way.
That's your opinion. If they're confident in their abilities then they should have no issues answering a question, especially if it's not detailed in the auction.

ExciKaiser wrote:I can understand you laybe had one or two issue in the past, but really, don't do thing kind of things, you only worsen the relation between buyers and sellers.
One or two issues?? Why would you make an assumption like that, when you literally have no idea what my experiences have been like? I have been eBay'ing for years and have had countless issues due to simple carelessness. I'm not on there to waste my TIME or MONEY anymore.

But this is off topic now, so if you want to continue we'll do it elsewhere.
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Re: Rediscovering The Joy of Collecting

Postby lakebot » Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:55 pm

Couple of notes:

BURN: I'd be happy to know what you plan on selling as I am looking to add a few thing which might help you out if you are selling.

Shajaki: Totally agree on your ideas on shipping. There are some sellers who are clueless as to how to ship properly and I'm not going to lie, the post office is less than delicate with items at times. You buy something and it comes ruined due to either toe PO or a seller not shipping safely, even you can get a refund by then you have lost time and money plus you're still out the item. Not fun!

As for the topic at hand, I really find myself agreeing with Ironhidensh. A lot. As a collector of many things in the past from toys, to comics, to sports cards and autographs, I can honestly say I have really grown away from the idea of "collecting" anything. I never thought in a million years I'd hear myself say those very words. And I have had some staggering collections. But I have been like many others here were and tried to be a completist no matter the collection. I had to have it all. I've worked and worked and worked on my collections. But the more I got the less I enjoyed it. The collecting wasn't even about the items themselves after a while, but more about just the act of acquiring and amassing.

I'm in my mid 30's and when I stop to think about what I've spent on collecting things, it truly is mind boggling. With that money(it adds up over time) I could have had a boat. A lot of vacations with the family. New cars. Whatever. More money in my pocket really.

And I think over the last few months, I have really started to think things differently. I want a collection I can enjoy. But something I don't have to add to unless I feel like it and the budget allows. Something that can be easily replaced if need be. And one that is lighter on the wallet. I got tired of thinking what would happen if a fire, tornado, hurricane, or break in occurred. And things I have worked years to acquire were gone in an instant. Finding out what a nightmare collectible insurance can be and also made that idea tougher to sit and stew over.

So I've basically whittled it down and now am only after very specific items and things that are not very costly. Tired of worrying about it. Collecting is supposed to be fun. Not a full time job!
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Re: Rediscovering The Joy of Collecting

Postby itscramtastic » Thu Sep 21, 2017 6:45 am

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I agree with everything you wrote, INCLUDING the shared thoughts and concerns on eBay!

I just don't need the list from Burn on what he's selling :lol:

I guess I'm starting to look at it this way, I've got as much time left in collecting as the amount of time my child wants to play with toys. The great thing is I've already been able to share things and it's amazing to give some of the items new life. It sort of reminds me of Andy going to college in Toy Story 3 and passing his toys off to Bonnie.

But, if I pared things down to EXACTLY what I had in mind for a collection in the first place, I could basically be finished. Sure, they might not all be Has/Tak official, but I could have the Ark bots/cons and the new bots/cons from TF:TM and be happy and finished.

I guess one of the things I seem to do is get distracted by the "new shiny" and forget about what I already have. If I could REALLY focus in on things and part ways with the clutter in my collection and in my mind, I could probably rediscover the joy!
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