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Re: Rise of the Beasts Toyline Discussion

Postby transformers_va » Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:52 am

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william-james88 wrote:I don't understand this take.

If you don't understand how this:
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Is not a much better toy than these:
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Then I can't help you... you obviously gravitate towards the kiddie toys more.
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Re: Rise of the Beasts Toyline Discussion

Postby Emerje » Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:57 am

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Emerje wrote:I don't like Wheeljack. They did a great job in the last movie with the G1 look, so why does he look like a stereotypical nerd now?

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He look like a nerd?

To me he nails the hippie look.

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Really? All I see is this:

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If I look at it as sunglasses then all I see is this:

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Either way, it's not Wheeljack.

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Re: Rise of the Beasts Toyline Discussion

Postby Flashwave » Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:59 am

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That is a terrible looks for Wheeljack, but I like the toy. And Nightbird. Maybe I will call him Tow Line after the Wnergon news van or something overall ROTB has some great figures coming out.
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Re: Rise of the Beasts Toyline Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Dec 12, 2022 11:10 am

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Re: Rise of the Beasts Toyline Discussion

Postby william-james88 » Mon Dec 12, 2022 11:27 am

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transformers_va wrote:Then I can't help you... you obviously gravitate towards the kiddie toys more.


I don't need help (though I do thank you for reaching out). Asking me what I think of kiddie toys won't get us anywhere since I am not the target audience. You should give all those toys to 5 year olds to see what they think. I only gravitate towards facts. Here is one: G1 optimus prime was a kiddie toy too, a kiddie toy you gravitated towards when you were a kiddie.
And you don't gravitate towards kiddie toys now because you are not a kiddie.
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Re: Rise of the Beasts Toyline Discussion

Postby dbelleman » Mon Dec 12, 2022 11:41 am

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Re: Rise of the Beasts Toyline Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Dec 12, 2022 11:44 am

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Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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Re: Rise of the Beasts Toyline Discussion

Postby SpaceEagle » Mon Dec 12, 2022 11:47 am

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"That's not my Wheeljack!"

Regardless of Geewun familiarity, I think these both look stunning. I am highly certain this version of Wheeljack is meant to look more like Que than the Wheeljack we normally know, especially considering how Geewunny he looked in Bumblebee. But the big glasses and rounder head immediately made me think of DotM Wheeljack (or "Que") who likewise had a very round head and glasses.

Nightbird also looks really cool. I enjoy how the colours come together in robot mode and vehicle mode.
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Re: Rise of the Beasts Toyline Discussion

Postby william-james88 » Mon Dec 12, 2022 11:49 am

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It gets even better when you compare their entire bodies and see that both wear suspenders
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Re: Rise of the Beasts Toyline Discussion

Postby transformers_va » Mon Dec 12, 2022 11:49 am

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william-james88 wrote:Asking me what I think of kiddie toys won't get us anywhere since I am not the target audience.
I didn't ask you... you just injected your opinion, because you think you know more than others. Unfortunately, given your posts throughout the years, your opinions hold no value with me... you tend to favour weak designs.
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Re: Rise of the Beasts Toyline Discussion

Postby Immortal Starscream » Mon Dec 12, 2022 11:55 am

nightbird is just... blegh.
wheeljack looks like bay's version of donatello. I like it, but I also dont like it. I like it as a goofy robot design, I don't like it as wheeljack. every time we turn a character into a stereotype in these movies, it never ends well
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Re: Rise of the Beasts Toyline Discussion

Postby Cheesinator » Mon Dec 12, 2022 11:56 am

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william-james88 wrote:Asking me what I think of kiddie toys won't get us anywhere since I am not the target audience.
I didn't ask you... you just injected your opinion, because you think you know more than others. Unfortunately, given your posts throughout the years, your opinions hold no value with me... you tend to favour weak designs.


"I'm not talking to you and I don't care what you say but I will respond to every comment you make" is a weird look.

Speaking of which...

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They say say God does not make mistakes...but surely he was drunk when he designed this Wheeljack's face.

In seriousness though, it's not for me but I appreciate that they're trying some weirder designs on side characters. Rest of the figure looks pretty solid.
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Re: Rise of the Beasts Toyline Discussion

Postby SpaceEagle » Mon Dec 12, 2022 12:01 pm

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transformers_va wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Asking me what I think of kiddie toys won't get us anywhere since I am not the target audience.
I didn't ask you... you just injected your opinion, because you think you know more than others. Unfortunately, given your posts throughout the years, your opinions hold no value with me... you tend to favour weak designs.

I'm going out on a limb and think no one asked for your opinions on the offerings for youngsters, either. Funny how that works.
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Re: Rise of the Beasts Toyline Discussion

Postby Solrac333 » Mon Dec 12, 2022 12:02 pm

I don't hate it but why even bother calling him "Wheeljack" if they're giving him a total redesign? I don't see myself getting many of these figures.
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Re: Rise of the Beasts Toyline Discussion

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Mon Dec 12, 2022 12:04 pm

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From the colour palette alone, wouldn't that head sculpt have made more sense as an Aerialbot/Flier?
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Re: Rise of the Beasts Toyline Discussion

Postby william-james88 » Mon Dec 12, 2022 12:05 pm

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Cheesinator wrote:They say say God does not make mistakes...but surely he was drunk when he designed this Wheeljack's face.


Maybe this is proof that there is no God.

(sorry, coudn't resist)

On the flip side, God did give us free will, so a designer was truly free to make something like this, proving God might exist afterall.
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Re: Rise of the Beasts Toyline Discussion

Postby Mr.MicroMaster » Mon Dec 12, 2022 12:06 pm

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Mr.MicroMaster wrote:Wheeljack face is literally nerd face emoji. Other than the face the toy looks pretty good.


I expect the Autobots to ask him why he looks so off from previous, and for him to say that "I just was experimenting with something different." That seems like a Wheeljack-y thing to do and could explain why he looks different. The bots can alter their structure to create weapons and such, why not the ability to alter their facial appearance.

That would be a pretty funny moment.
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Re: Rise of the Beasts Toyline Discussion

Postby SpaceEagle » Mon Dec 12, 2022 12:08 pm

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Solrac333 wrote:I don't hate it but why even bother calling him "Wheeljack" if they're giving him a total redesign? I don't see myself getting many of these figures.

I'm still standing by my assumption that it's to look closer to DotM Wheeljack/Que.
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Re: Rise of the Beasts Toyline Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Dec 12, 2022 12:12 pm

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Solrac333 wrote:I don't hate it but why even bother calling him "Wheeljack" if they're giving him a total redesign?
Well, they named this other guy Wheeljack too, yet he looks a lot more like an evil Sideswipe:

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Re: Rise of the Beasts Toyline Discussion

Postby transformers_va » Mon Dec 12, 2022 12:19 pm

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SpaceEagle wrote:I'm going out on a limb and think no one asked for your opinions on the offerings for youngsters, either. Funny how that works.
Did I ever say anyone had? How about minding your own business there, chief...
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Re: Rise of the Beasts Toyline Discussion

Postby Emerje » Mon Dec 12, 2022 12:21 pm

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Solrac333 wrote:I don't hate it but why even bother calling him "Wheeljack" if they're giving him a total redesign?
Well, they named this other guy Wheeljack too, yet he looks a lot more like an evil Sideswipe:

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Yeah, but we didn't have a wheeljack in Armada before him so it didn't really matter. Then Energon happened and everyone just sort of threw their hands up in the air.

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Re: Rise of the Beasts Toyline Discussion

Postby Emerje » Mon Dec 12, 2022 12:23 pm

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SpaceEagle wrote:I'm going out on a limb and think no one asked for your opinions on the offerings for youngsters, either. Funny how that works.
Did I ever say anyone had? How about minding your own business there, chief...

Dude, that's not how public forums work. Anything you post is fair game for others to reply to, you don't get to choose.

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Re: Rise of the Beasts Toyline Discussion

Postby SpaceEagle » Mon Dec 12, 2022 12:24 pm

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SpaceEagle wrote:I'm going out on a limb and think no one asked for your opinions on the offerings for youngsters, either. Funny how that works.
Did I ever say anyone had? How about minding your own business there, chief...

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Re: Rise of the Beasts Toyline Discussion

Postby 84everfan » Mon Dec 12, 2022 12:26 pm

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william-james88 wrote:Asking me what I think of kiddie toys won't get us anywhere since I am not the target audience.
I didn't ask you... you just injected your opinion, because you think you know more than others. Unfortunately, given your posts throughout the years, your opinions hold no value with me... you tend to favour weak designs.

I'm going out on a limb and think no one asked for your opinions on the offerings for youngsters, either. Funny how that works.

Considering designs didn't look this stupid and uncool when I was a kid, your argument doesn't work. You can't just use "it's for kids" as an excuse when "kids" have been the target audience for going on 40 years. Especially when this movie is targeted at an adult audience. Was SONIC pg-13? No.
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Re: Rise of the Beasts Toyline Discussion

Postby Overcracker » Mon Dec 12, 2022 12:32 pm

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I’m really of 2 minds with Wheeljack. The VW Bus mode looks great, but that head, just does not work for me. Not sure what the though behind the big glasses was. :-B We had a Wheeljack forum smiley all this time and never knew.

In a similar vein, Nightbird’s BMW mode is pretty sleek looking. Her robot mode, looks a but skeletal though, and those feet… 8-|
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