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Scifi Wire wrote:The big frakkin' robots appear to have won out over the wooly mammoths after all. Updated studio estimates released today show that Paramount's Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen was No. 1 in the photo-finish race for box-office supremacy this weekend, topping the domestic pack with $42.4 million, according to The Hollywood Reporter.

We reported yesterday that Transformers and Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs were tied for the top spot when preliminary box-office estimates for the July 4 weekend were released.

But morning updates from various studios consistently showed Ice Age in second place with less than $42 million in Friday-Sunday boxoffice. On Sunday, both Paramount and Fox estimated their pictures had taken in a chart-topping $42.5 million in boxoffice over the three-day Fourth of July weekend. Final official data from Nielsen EDI will be released midday today.

Sunday estimates showed Transformers with a cumulative $293.5 million for its first 12 days in domestic release. The Ice Age three-quel boasted a $67.5 million since opening Wednesday.

Me and my two friends contributed to that yesterday. XD

Fun movie.
Even more fun when you're three crazy teenage robot fangirls.

Hum.....
After reading the whopping intake of 42million verses 42.5million this seems like a desperate ploy by Paramount to claim the July 4th weekend, which I know was their targeted goal. Hence why if the race was substantial, it would have been covered by more then this one news group. But maybe it will, pending on how much Paramount wants to stay on top in the polls and charts and advertise their .5 victory.

Even then though, at this sharp drop off of earnings I don't think it will beat out it's predecessor in terms of earnings globally or even domestically. As of right now, domestically it has yet to earn as much as Iron Man and nowhere close to The Dark Night which were last years summer flagships.

Laters,
Josh

Well Chimpanzee that.

Lets see. Numbers from the alltime domestic grosses list at Box Office Mojo.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/domestic.htm

Titanic is still the top at $600,788,188
Dark Knight is already no#2 with an unbelievable $533,345,358 in just a year.

The original TF is currently 20th at $319,246,193.
Iron Man is 21st at $318,412,101

Josh you might not see it doing as well as TDK and lets face it, it will be hard for any movie nowdays to copy those earning but as far as doing well against TF and IM...

TF2: ROTF is currently already 31st with $293,355,885. And there are still huge numbers of people who have yet to go see it.

Even if the numbers it takes halves by next week and again the week after, it will have beaten Iron Man and likely TF.

I not surprised, though I've heard conflicting reports regarding this. Then again, RotF didn't really have much in the way of competition this past weekend. That'll change Friday.

Editor wrote:Lets see. Numbers from the alltime domestic grosses list at Box Office Mojo.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/domestic.htm

Titanic is still the top at $600,788,188
Dark Knight is already no#2 with an unbelievable $533,345,358 in just a year.

The original TF is currently 20th at $319,246,193.
Iron Man is 21st at $318,412,101

Josh you might not see it doing as well as TDK and lets face it, it will be hard for any movie nowdays to copy those earning but as far as doing well against TF and IM...

TF2: ROTF is currently already 31st with $293,355,885. And there are still huge numbers of people who have yet to go see it.

Even if the numbers it takes halves by next week and again the week after, it will have beaten Iron Man and likely TF.

God I hated Titanic too. Damn Deon.....frakken song was everywhere.

It may, it may not. I personally don't think it will surpass it's predecessor unless the movie continues into circulation well into November.

Does Potter come out this Friday? Because if it does then yes, the drop off might be more substantial and this movie may only keep one last week (That being this week) of staying power before Potter and Airbender stake their claims. I would mention GI Joe but I don't know if it's worth even mentioning. But you never know, it could be a sleeper hit, or not. And Ice Age itself being able to keep up with Bayhem is note worthy as well. And the film is largely more child accessible in which case I'm predicting Potter and Ice Age to split the difference of the child demograph leaving the few people left who have or haven't seen it to chose between Transformers, Public Enemies, and the upcoming District 9.

On top of that, I've talked with other people, fans of the first film and not die hard Transformers fans and they noted as not really being too excited to see this film. Especially after hearing mixed reviews, not just from myself but friends and news articles, they're in no rush. So the precentage of people who haven't seen this film by now I don't think will be much of a factor into overhauling it into the $300M gross field. If it does make it, it will limp there as noted by another here on the threads. And the large girl fanbase fascinated with Shia are already well gone oggling Depp & Bale in Public Enemies.

Laters,
Josh

Shia has fangirls? Ladies, please, get some standards. Josh Duhamel I could understand, Tyrese, totally, but SHIA?!?!

Best way to see the movie, I've discovered, is in IMAX and with a bunch of my coworker's kids. (WHY do people trust me with their children!?) Nine year olds + IMAX = awesome.

HK, now, Starscream fangirls...totally makes sense.

As it stands now 12 days in, ROTF is roughly $100 million dollars ahead of the first TF movie at 12 days in. Unequivocally and without a doubt it will surpass it's predecessor. The $400 million that some were saying after it's opening weekend seems like a long shot, but I could see it "limping" to $350 million. And by the way, all films limp to their final total gross. And in regards to all the non-transformer fans I'VE talked to (which in the scheme of things really means nothing) most that have seen it, want to see it again in IMAX, and those who haven't seen it yet are looking forward to disregarding what so many of those out of touch movie reviewers have said, and are excited to see it! - IMHO

I didn't get to see it this weekend, but I will next weekend. I saw it 4 times in its first week. It was great summer action. I hope it sees 400 mil. domestically.

I agree with the 350 million bit... seems likely to me.

DVD sales will go through the roof though... too bad.

hellkitty wrote:Shia has fangirls? Ladies, please, get some standards. Josh Duhamel I could understand, Tyrese, totally, but SHIA?!?!

Best way to see the movie, I've discovered, is in IMAX and with a bunch of my coworker's kids. (WHY do people trust me with their children!?) Nine year olds + IMAX = awesome.

HK, now, Starscream fangirls...totally makes sense.

Yes, sadly Shia has a girl fanbase. I know a few, and it's strange because not even they could explain to me their interest. They just find him cute. I laughed. They glared, I laughed more. However hands down this same demograph will take Depp over Shia any day of the week. This gave me little hope for them.

On a related note, Starscream does have fan girls, I know a few of them who aren't even fans of the genre, but they love Starscream. Funny world.

tfphatty wrote:As it stands now 12 days in, ROTF is roughly $100 million dollars ahead of the first TF movie at 12 days in. Unequivocally and without a doubt it will surpass it's predecessor. The $400 million that some were saying after it's opening weekend seems like a long shot, but I could see it "limping" to $350 million. And by the way, all films limp to their final total gross. And in regards to all the non-transformer fans I'VE talked to (which in the scheme of things really means nothing) most that have seen it, want to see it again in IMAX, and those who haven't seen it yet are looking forward to disregarding what so many of those out of touch movie reviewers have said, and are excited to see it! - IMHO

I happily disagree that non-fans of the genre mean nothing. It means alot, especially when it can boost a movies sales from $300M to close to a Billion. I can assure you everyone who helped out with The Dark Knight wasn't a Batman fan. Ultimately, it weighs in on a films ability to appeal to everyone as best as it can in it's respective genre. Or if there is enough hype around it and the film itself does deliver. Or sadly if even tragedy surrounds the film. Or all three. If it reaches $350M, well good for Paramount. If it doesn't, well they still made alot of money and probably will continue to world wide if not domestically. Honestly it really doesn't matter being if one side roots for it or not, because we will never see a penny of that profit for one. And it's already made more then enough to green light a 3rd film. It only had to hit $250M really for a movie to be greenlit.

Initally, this threads original subject matter was being called out by me as a ploy by the studio to continue to hype the success of the film if only to lay claim to the July4th weekend. I don't know if it makes a film more bankable or makes the greenlight process easier for production, but I do know it's a factor. It's just sad though that for a film everyone claims is doing so well, Paramount needs to brag about their .5 victory over a childrens movie about Dinosaurs.

Also, I myself am a fan of the first film and even some of the toys (Being I was a designer for a Toy Company in Malibu, and I appreciate the engineering)....but I'm not a "Core" fan, and I didn't like this film as much as the first. I didn't hate it...but I'm in no rush to see it 5 more times in which case if I was, and this feeling was shared by the rest of the States % of non-fans....well thats alot of money I'm sure Paramount would have no issues taking part of. And I wasn't even asking for much, just a story, not a great story just a intact story....and seeing these great designs of the robots which were reduced to Background props by the films ending.

In fact let's throw story out the window for a minute kay? If I were to see this movie based soley on the eye candy....all I would want to see is The Shanghai scene, Optimus final battle with Blackout, Megatron, and Starscream, and the Fusion scene where he rips the Fallen's face off....and I would have already thought this movie dozens of times better then I currently hold it.

So, in short I'm calling out Paramount as being desparate to have their flagship summer movie of 09 earn what they estimated over what they see it pulling.

Any studio alienating either the fanbase or the non-fans is bad. Thats the difference of millions upon millions of dollars in profit. You alienate the fans....you loose out on assured profit and ticket sales. You alienate everyone else...and you loose more money being ANY genre doesn't hold fans which make up the entire population of the US, or the world for that matter.

And Shia does have fan girls....but said girls are quick to ditch for a Pirate or even Batman....so I'm not too worried about the average tween or college girls standards. Especially the average college girls standards. ha ha ha

Laters,
Josh

hellkitty wrote:Shia has fangirls? Ladies, please, get some standards. Josh Duhamel I could understand, Tyrese, totally, but SHIA?!?!

They're actually left overs from the Counterpunch (Seibertron.com Mod) Fangirl squad. There was just too damn many and CP felt sorry for Shia (clearly the hand injury is RSI related and not car accident related as they like you to believe) so he gave him some.

Hell it's not that hard to believe really. Shia's a celebrity, someone's bound to have a crush on him. Heck i'm sure there are even Burn fangirls out there somewhere.
Now if only I could find them ...

Back on track. Suprised by the reaction to Ice Age 3, while I enjoy the franchise and knew it was popular, I didn't realise it was THAT popular.

Burn wrote:Now if only I could find them ...

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