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So I got ROTF Sideways yesterday and couldn't help but notice that his right arm that holds his spinning saw does not matchup with his left arm at all. The detailing is way off, it's made out off less parts, it's fatter and it's shape is strange. If you look at it from the side it looks like a handle sticks out of it a handle meant for pulling or pushing. Taking that in mind and the shape and detail of the arm I believe that this arm was supposed to have a gimmick that would have used gears to spin the blade.

The left arm:


The right arm:

Looks like it.

Good eye.

Yet another reason to ask why they just didn't call this thing Barracade.

hmm.... now that that i look at it.... it does seem like it could have done something

Seems like it to me.

good find, probably another one due to Hasbro's budget

I just assumed it was a different shape because his arm had transformed to reveal the weapon like BB's does in the movie. Maybe you're right.

I've had this figure for a while, there is a lot of things wrong with it... over time though its different look makes you like it more, but the saw is useless and doesn't match or line up with anything.

You are probably right. Looking at mine now I can see it was meant to do something. Sideways uses his saws in the video game for his Melee attack so that was probably meant to mimic that. Oh well.

He is a cool figure I just wish he was randomly red for no reason when he is mostly black and silver in the movie.

Seems you're right. This looks like a neutered gimmick.

As for the figure itself, it's mistransformed.

In the picture I've attached, you'll see I've circled a part of the hood near his head/neck assembly.

Pull the windshield from his back, then take those pieces I've circled, and pull them up. (They do pull up, if you look under the hood, you'll see a hinge for them.)

Now, look at his back and you'll see two pegs coming out of the back, lower than the hood section where the windshield was connected. Snap it onto those lower pegs, and his wings and windshield will be lower on the body, and he'll be more accurate to the CGI model.

Autobot032 wrote:Seems you're right. This looks like a neutered gimmick.

As for the figure itself, it's mistransformed.

In the picture I've attached, you'll see I've circled a part of the hood near his head/neck assembly.

side1.JPG

Pull the windshield from his back, then take those pieces I've circled, and pull them up. (They do pull up, if you look under the hood, you'll see a hinge for them.)

Now, look at his back and you'll see two pegs coming out of the back, lower than the hood section where the windshield was connected. Snap it onto those lower pegs, and his wings and windshield will be lower on the body, and he'll be more accurate to the CGI model.

I know all that, I took the pics from the seibertron galleries as I currently can't upload any of my own.

Dead Metal wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:Seems you're right. This looks like a neutered gimmick.

As for the figure itself, it's mistransformed.

In the picture I've attached, you'll see I've circled a part of the hood near his head/neck assembly.

side1.JPG

Pull the windshield from his back, then take those pieces I've circled, and pull them up. (They do pull up, if you look under the hood, you'll see a hinge for them.)

Now, look at his back and you'll see two pegs coming out of the back, lower than the hood section where the windshield was connected. Snap it onto those lower pegs, and his wings and windshield will be lower on the body, and he'll be more accurate to the CGI model.

I know all that, I took the pics from the seibertron galleries as I currently can't upload any of my own.

Snippy response? Check.

For your clarification, the part about it being mistransformed wasn't aimed at you, or Seibertron. The figure's wrong, right out of the packaging. The instructions don't even mention the tabs in the steps or the diagrams. I posted that info in case folks like me (who just found out) haven't heard about this yet.

It was in no way meant to be a smartassed comment to put you on the spot or crack on anyone.

I thought I was just helping out a bit. I'll do my best not to, in the future.

*insert rolleyes here*

Autobot032 wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:Seems you're right. This looks like a neutered gimmick.

As for the figure itself, it's mistransformed.

In the picture I've attached, you'll see I've circled a part of the hood near his head/neck assembly.

side1.JPG

Pull the windshield from his back, then take those pieces I've circled, and pull them up. (They do pull up, if you look under the hood, you'll see a hinge for them.)

Now, look at his back and you'll see two pegs coming out of the back, lower than the hood section where the windshield was connected. Snap it onto those lower pegs, and his wings and windshield will be lower on the body, and he'll be more accurate to the CGI model.

I know all that, I took the pics from the seibertron galleries as I currently can't upload any of my own.

Snippy response? Check.

For your clarification, the part about it being mistransformed wasn't aimed at you, or Seibertron. The figure's wrong, right out of the packaging. The instructions don't even mention the tabs in the steps or the diagrams. I posted that info in case folks like me (who just found out) haven't heard about this yet.

It was in no way meant to be a smartassed comment to put you on the spot or crack on anyone.

I thought I was just helping out a bit. I'll do my best not to, in the future.

*insert rolleyes here*

Eh for the record I went and fixed my Sideways after reading that.. Hasbro really should have noticed that. I always wondered why the backpack didn't snap on all the way when I transformed him. So thanks for the tip.

I don't think either of you where being snippy or smartassed btw.

Autobot032 wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:Seems you're right. This looks like a neutered gimmick.

As for the figure itself, it's mistransformed.

In the picture I've attached, you'll see I've circled a part of the hood near his head/neck assembly.

side1.JPG

Pull the windshield from his back, then take those pieces I've circled, and pull them up. (They do pull up, if you look under the hood, you'll see a hinge for them.)

Now, look at his back and you'll see two pegs coming out of the back, lower than the hood section where the windshield was connected. Snap it onto those lower pegs, and his wings and windshield will be lower on the body, and he'll be more accurate to the CGI model.

I know all that, I took the pics from the seibertron galleries as I currently can't upload any of my own.

Snippy response? Check.

For your clarification, the part about it being mistransformed wasn't aimed at you, or Seibertron. The figure's wrong, right out of the packaging. The instructions don't even mention the tabs in the steps or the diagrams. I posted that info in case folks like me (who just found out) haven't heard about this yet.

It was in no way meant to be a smartassed comment to put you on the spot or crack on anyone.

I thought I was just helping out a bit. I'll do my best not to, in the future.

*insert rolleyes here*

We have a smily for that:

When I read your post it sounded as if you aimed it at me and what was so snippy about my response? I only stated that I knew what you said. I also don't know if the instruction mention that or not as I never used them and just chucked them away like I always do, so I thought it was common knowledge that you have to flip them up and peg the backpack in.

I agree i feel that they removed the gimmick. Dont know about yours but on mine the "gimmick arm" is completely lose. Im guessing they removed the parts that would've made the gimmick work and just left it.

Dead Metal wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:Seems you're right. This looks like a neutered gimmick.

As for the figure itself, it's mistransformed.

In the picture I've attached, you'll see I've circled a part of the hood near his head/neck assembly.

side1.JPG

Pull the windshield from his back, then take those pieces I've circled, and pull them up. (They do pull up, if you look under the hood, you'll see a hinge for them.)

Now, look at his back and you'll see two pegs coming out of the back, lower than the hood section where the windshield was connected. Snap it onto those lower pegs, and his wings and windshield will be lower on the body, and he'll be more accurate to the CGI model.

I know all that, I took the pics from the seibertron galleries as I currently can't upload any of my own.

Snippy response? Check.

For your clarification, the part about it being mistransformed wasn't aimed at you, or Seibertron. The figure's wrong, right out of the packaging. The instructions don't even mention the tabs in the steps or the diagrams. I posted that info in case folks like me (who just found out) haven't heard about this yet.

It was in no way meant to be a smartassed comment to put you on the spot or crack on anyone.

I thought I was just helping out a bit. I'll do my best not to, in the future.

*insert rolleyes here*

We have a smily for that:

When I read your post it sounded as if you aimed it at me and what was so snippy about my response? I only stated that I knew what you said. I also don't know if the instruction mention that or not as I never used them and just chucked them away like I always do, so I thought it was common knowledge that you have to flip them up and peg the backpack in.

It did come across as a bit snappy. I know you didn't intend it but that's the trouble with written word - it's so easily missinterpreted.

I didn't know about those little flip up bits until I'd posted repaint pics in the repaints forum and someone pointed it out so there are definately people who need these little things pointing out! It hasn't been mentioned in the toy forum before.

Tyrannotaur wrote:Eh for the record I went and fixed my Sideways after reading that.. Hasbro really should have noticed that. I always wondered why the backpack didn't snap on all the way when I transformed him. So thanks for the tip.

Mykltron wrote:I didn't know about those little flip up bits until I'd posted repaint pics in the repaints forum and someone pointed it out so there are definately people who need these little things pointing out! It hasn't been mentioned in the toy forum before.

Glad it worked for some of you, at least.

Yeah, me and another fan noticed that at BotCon while checking them out at the Hasbro booth. If you check the back of his card, the figure in that picture actually still have the gimmick functional. I'm guessing it was cut for cost.

Certainly not the only dead gimmick in the ROTF line, Starscream's "pop out" missile launchers come to mind...

Massive Bummer

Doesn't look like an intended gimmick to me. But the pictures made me remember that i promised Sideways that i would give him a good hand of silver paint in a lot of parts. And a black ink washout afterwards.

Good find indeed.
Speaking of and this may have already been discussed, but what's up with that block chunk in Chromia's undercarriage that folds out (attached to the kickstand)? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

alanburk wrote:Good find indeed.
Speaking of and this may have already been discussed, but what's up with that block chunk in Chromia's undercarriage that folds out (attached to the kickstand)? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

Thems the combo tab.
It's used to combine with Arcee and the unreleased Flare up.

That's more or less why I don't bother with these figures.

MunicipalxWaste wrote:That's more or less why I don't bother with these figures.

I wish I could find a Camaro for "$32,00". That would be pretty awesome! jk