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Sat May 20, 2017 2:55 pm

I managed to get a deluxe class TLK Barricade from my local Walmart, and I really don't know hat to do with it. Sometimes I wanna open it but then I feel like I could sell it for god money.

EDIT: wtf my spelling on this post was terrible i don't even know how I skipped over it lmao

News Credits: 14 · Sun May 21, 2017 12:02 pm

Unlikely Barricade will appreciate to any significant level in the foreseeable future.

He's widely available, and isn't really anything special.

If you are trying to make money out of these toys, then let me tell you that is never going to work.

Either open it and enjoy it or sell it for retail price. No one is going to pay anything above retail for a Barricade at this point.

News Credits: 241 · Sun May 21, 2017 2:23 pm

Overcracker wrote:If you are trying to make money out of these toys, then let me tell you that is never going to work.

This is worth repeating ad nauseum.

News Credits: 14 · Sun May 21, 2017 3:03 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Overcracker wrote:If you are trying to make money out of these toys, then let me tell you that is never going to work.

This is worth repeating ad nauseum.

O.k then:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Overcracker wrote:If you are trying to make money out of these toys, then let me tell you that is never going to work.

News Credits: 1 · Sun May 21, 2017 3:43 pm

I just would like to understand at which moment / how you went thinking that you could make money by reselling mass-manufactured toy that you purchased in a retail store?

Ok, yes it can happens that some toys became rare for one or other reason, that sometimes there's store exclusives that are popular etc.. but these are very specific cases, not even all gifsets/store exclusive get high demand, some just shelfwarm.

So picking a random transformer in the toy aisle? I don't get it.

News Credits: 10 · Mon May 22, 2017 10:19 am

ExciKaiser wrote:I just would like to understand at which moment / how you went thinking that you could make money by reselling mass-manufactured toy that you purchased in a retail store?

Ok, yes it can happens that some toys became rare for one or other reason, that sometimes there's store exclusives that are popular etc.. but these are very specific cases, not even all gifsets/store exclusive get high demand, some just shelfwarm.

So picking a random transformer in the toy aisle? I don't get it.

I think we sometimes get lucky. I picked up the Universe Nemesis Prime (black mammoth) on clearance for like 10 bucks, because it was so cheap and I thought it might go in my Beast Wars display. But, I got lazy and never opened him. Currently he is going for between $89 and $265 on Ebay unopened.

I should really get around to selling that guy...

At any rate, I don't want to be the type to speculate on TF value on the secondary market. For every Velocitron box set I might sell for buku bucks, I could end up with 10 Energon Towlines that are going for like $12 right now...

Or worse, I can try to convince eBayers that my authentic Human Alliance Barricade is not really one of the myriad of knockoffs available on Ebay to get top dollar. Instead, I like playing with cool stuff... *pew* *pew* *KABOOM* :-D

News Credits: 14 · Mon May 22, 2017 10:43 am

Agamemnon wrote:
ExciKaiser wrote:I just would like to understand at which moment / how you went thinking that you could make money by reselling mass-manufactured toy that you purchased in a retail store?

Ok, yes it can happens that some toys became rare for one or other reason, that sometimes there's store exclusives that are popular etc.. but these are very specific cases, not even all gifsets/store exclusive get high demand, some just shelfwarm.

So picking a random transformer in the toy aisle? I don't get it.

I think we sometimes get lucky. I picked up the Universe Nemesis Prime (black mammoth) on clearance for like 10 bucks, because it was so cheap and I thought it might go in my Beast Wars display. But, I got lazy and never opened him. Currently he is going for between $89 and $265 on Ebay unopened.

True, but that was something of a special case. Target Exclusive release in an awesome color scheme of a toy that had not previously been released in North America. That all adds up to beyond normal appreciation. It has a lot of stuff going for it, even if it is a messy shellformer-y transformation that leaves most of the mammoth unused in Robot mode.

Regular old Deluxe Barricade... that's available everywhere, not so much.

Take 2007 Barricade, still going for around retail price 10 years after the fact. Even mint in box.

Even then, Nemesis can still be had for less than $100 bucks if you look for it.

The point was yes once in a while some retail figure may appreciate to a stupid degree. Most of the time its very much the opposite.

Trying to make money of off a retail figure is futile at best.

News Credits: 241 · Mon May 22, 2017 3:43 pm

Overcracker wrote:Trying to make money of off a retail figure is futile at best.

Case in point: Beanie Babies.

News Credits: 4878 · Mon May 22, 2017 7:14 pm

Aeroblast Jazz wrote:I managed to get a deluxe class TLK Barricade from my local Walmart, and I really don't know hat to do with it. Sometimes I wanna open it but then I feel like I could sell it for god money.

EDIT: wtf my spelling on this post was terrible i don't even know how I skipped over it lmao

Recent movie toys are a horrible investment. Hasbro makes more of them than any other toy. And since others are thinking like you are thinking, that means we will end up with a lot of them still in their boxes for years to come, meaning any money it will be worth later will be equivalent or less than what you bought him for, plus inflation, plus the storage space (which can be seen as opportnuty cost for space you could have used for something else).

And if a toy will be worth more later, it will be worth quite a bit out of the box as well, so you still win.

In the end, if you want to open, him go ahead and if you want to invest, talk to your bank.

Tue May 23, 2017 3:51 pm

A toy's purpose is to be opened/enjoyed. Unless you already bought it at inflated prices or have a buyer lined up at decent profit, OPEN THAT SUCKER UP.

If you're just going to leave it sealed, better to just leave it in the store so some kid can buy it and have a good time with it. IMO anyway. Ultimately it's your money, your property, your decision. But you asked.

Mon May 29, 2017 9:45 am

Optimum Supreme wrote:A toy's purpose is to be opened/enjoyed. Unless you already bought it at inflated prices or have a buyer lined up at decent profit, OPEN THAT SUCKER UP.

If you're just going to leave it sealed, better to just leave it in the store so some kid can buy it and have a good time with it. IMO anyway. Ultimately it's your money, your property, your decision. But you asked.

I agree with this. Reading it would probably give MISB elitists (the kind of people who collect and refuse to open expensive imports with windowless boxes) an aneurysm though XD.

Go ahead and open and enjoy. If you want to sell it later... It's a common Deluxe, so based on the prices I've seen for the Classics/Universe Deluxe Autobots and Seekers you can mark it up to $30 no problem.

News Credits: 1 · Mon May 29, 2017 10:14 am

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I agree with this. Reading it would probably give MISB elitists (the kind of people who collect and refuse to open expensive imports with windowless boxes) an aneurysm though XD.

There's no Misb elitists for mass-release retail movie stuff.

It's not a giftset, an exclusive, a vintage or wathever. It's only one of the 2 billion movie toys which will fill all toy shelves for the incoming months.
There's no Misb elitists for that.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:so based on the prices I've seen for the Classics/Universe Deluxe Autobots and Seekers you can mark it up to $30 no problem.

Except they're movie stuff. They're produced in higher quantities than classics/universe etc, and less popular for collectors.

Here's the sell price for a 2007 barricade still in box : http://www.ebay.fr/itm/TRANSFORMERS-BAR ... SwmCVY9quB

The same as 2007, probably even less in fact.

Mon May 29, 2017 12:46 pm

I know that. I was taking swings at certain collecting and pricing practices.

News Credits: 90 · Tue May 30, 2017 3:11 pm

I feel toys are meant to be opened, played with, and displayed. I collect to display them and I rarely if ever keep any of mine in the box unless I bought doubles of an otherwise difficult to find one.