Counterpunch wrote:FP sure does provide some F'd up head.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:[*]Aside from the lack of spelling errors, how do the subtitles of this set compare to those of the Metrodome set? Like, how different is the translation? Do the subs of both say pretty much the same thing, or are there noticeable differences in some places? (I know of at least one difference is that Metrodome titled Episode 1 as "Four Warriors from Outer Space", while Shout! titled it simply "Warriors from Space")
[*]Is all the missing footage from the Metrodome release still missing from this set? Or, was it put back in?
[*]Do they sub the Autobot Headmaster leader's name as "Fortress" or "Cerebros"?
[*]How does Shout! handle the "Scorponok/MegaZarak" name? Is it subbed as "Zarak/Scorponok" instead?
[*]Is there karaoke subs for the insert songs?[/list]
These are my main concerns of this set, since I have not picked it up yet. I'll let ya know if I have any more inquiries.
Sabrblade wrote:
"Scrap." That's gotta be a typo.
Cool.Diem wrote:I haven't had a chance to do a side by side comparison yet. The translation is pretty clean for both versions.
The "next episode" segements, the "pre-episode segments/recaps", and the two pre-episode scenes (only episodes 1 and 25 have these).Diem wrote:By the missing footage do you mean the "next episode" segments?
Aw, man. I hope they aren't all gone. It was especially harmful for episodes 1 and 25, which had episode events occur before the title card came up.Diem wrote:They seemed to be missing again but I'll check that for you tomorrow night.
Darn. It was a very smart move of Metrodome/Madman to keep his Fortress name. Now calling him "Cerebros" makes less sense in the context of Fortress Maximus ("Fortress + Maximus" = "Fortress Maximus"; "Cerebros + Maximus" =/= "Fortress Maximus").Diem wrote:All of the names are played western style so Cerebros flies around in the Battleship Maximus and becomes Fortress Maximus. The karaoke I'll also have to check tomorrow night.
I wonder if this has anything to do with the first five episodes of TF: Prime and its use of "Scrap"? Maybe they thought it would be like some sort of a inoffensive G1 equivalent of "Slag" (even though it was used at least once in G1 season 3).Diem wrote:It's pretty bizarre. It's like:
Daniel: Scrap! He threw my gun away!
Cerbros: Scrap you, Zarak!
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Master Renegade wrote:Not a bad review on the presentation aspect, but one thing that might answer some questions about their choices is the fact that they apparently had to get Hasbro's approval on a number of things, particularly the translation. It seems Hasbro wouldn't allow them to use a translation they hadn't approved, like the previous so-bad-it's-good English audio version. As such they couldn't use fan-dubs, even if the fan;s involved approved, and they didn't feel they could afford to record a new audio track with Hasbro approved translations.
I suspect that also explains the choice of Hasbro's names as opposed to the Japanese names that you mentioned.
I thought Metrodome only used "Fortress" while using the English names for everyone else.Diem wrote:As you can see it's a little baffling! The Metrodome usually uses the Japanese names but refers to the little beige guy as Zarak (and incorrectly, at that point, as commander of the Decepticons).
Could you check and see how episode 15 subs the name transition of Scorponok to MegaZarak?Diem wrote:The Shout version on the other hand can't decide whether the big guy, the little guy or both are Scorponok and the episodes sometimes disagree with their own titles. That said the subtitles on the Shout version are more legible.
Wasn't expecting karaoke, but yeah, BOO to the lack of recaps and next episode previews. Does episode 25 still lack its opening scene with the Decepticons gathered together by Sixshot?Diem wrote:The Karaoke for the inset songs seems to be absent, as do the "previously on/next time on segment". Boo.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:I thought Metrodome only used "Fortress" while using the English names for everyone else.Diem wrote:As you can see it's a little baffling! The Metrodome usually uses the Japanese names but refers to the little beige guy as Zarak (and incorrectly, at that point, as commander of the Decepticons).
I'd chalk up the "Broadcast" bit as another sub error on their part. At two other times, they once called Optimus Prime and Superion "Optimus Maximus" and "Spellion". They also couldn't decide if White Leo was "White Leo" or "Pirate Lion", or if he were a "Beastformer" or a "Battle Beast".
Oh, that's another thing. What terms do they use for he Beastformers/Battle Beasts?Could you check and see how episode 15 subs the name transition of Scorponok to MegaZarak?Diem wrote:The Shout version on the other hand can't decide whether the big guy, the little guy or both are Scorponok and the episodes sometimes disagree with their own titles. That said the subtitles on the Shout version are more legible.Wasn't expecting karaoke, but yeah, BOO to the lack of recaps and next episode previews. Does episode 25 still lack its opening scene with the Decepticons gathered together by Sixshot?Diem wrote:The Karaoke for the inset songs seems to be absent, as do the "previously on/next time on segment". Boo.
Deal. I need some shut eye myself.Diem wrote:I'll have to check all that tomorrow night. There's only so much subtitled cartoonage my wife can take.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
In the infinitely vast great universe...There exists a planet called Seibertron, on which dwell super living robots known as Transformers. However, they, for hundreds of years... Split into the righteous Cybertrons and the evil Destrons, they fought and exhausted the planet's energy. Searching for a new energy in space, both armies left planet Seibertron and came to Earth. And then... after being dormant four million years on Earth, the battle has begun anew. The Cybertron's leader, Convoy, died in battle. The young hero, Rodimus, became the new Commander. On the other side, the damaged Megatron was powered up in Galvatron. Once again, the great battle spreads. At the end of the fierce battle, they controlled Seibertron. Their home planet, Seibertron, was returned to peace. However, in the year 2010... Banished to the ends of space... The Destrons destructive Emperor, Galvatron, was resurrected.And he began an attack on plant Seibertron.However, Convoy was revived, and protected the peace of Seibertron and space. anaother Seibertron was created on the peaceful planet Athenia. There was also a defense base established there. Meanwhile, the Destrons remodeled their fortress of the dark planet called Jarr...making it into a true base.
Seems pretty original in its own translation, but still the same basic meaning as the two DVD subs.The terrible battle between the Destron's Information Officer Soundwave and the Cybertron's Broadcast ends in both being struck down. Soundwave is powered up by the high technology of Scorponok, commander of the Destron Headmasters. Now he is revived as Soundblaster!
SB: Sorry to keep you waiting...
Ratbat: Our officer has revived!
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Japanese Superior, English Inferior!Optimus Prime2265 wrote:While Thats just Prime....
I did enjoy the headmasters but I would have enjoyed it more if they included the English Audio as well!!!!!! I do like Japanisse cartoons But I do wish they would include the English Audio in them for the American/Canadian Releasel's!!!!!
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Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
When I talked to Aaron Archer at BotCon this year, he said that the reason that some footage (like the pre-episode scenes, eyecathces, and next-episode previews) were missing was because Hasbro wasn't able to acquire those bits from Toei when they got the three series for their archives. Which explains why neither the Metrodome nor the Madman DVDs of The Headmasters have them either.leviebaby wrote:i know people talking about i woundering why the eyecatches was edited out like we return to headon and also episode previews but i was great dvd gut yesterday and also some wounder for dead autobots because the movie was released later but cant wait for masterforce and victory
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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