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I like it and I wouldn't be interested in the Apex upgrade anyway. If anyone does get one and is dissatisfied, shoot it my way. Always room for Powermaster Optimus.

Not enough happening there for me. I got all of the FP armors for the Classics prime mold and they all dwarf this attempt at awesomeness. I think the color is what kills it for me...

Great if youre a Prime collector, but not for me.

The more I look at it, the less I want it. Which is a good thing. I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm sure I'll have a fangasm the moment images of a completed and fully armed figure come out, but thankfully it still will have enough I don't want to keep me from temptation.

kirbenvost wrote:Looks potentially awesome, but way too expensive and resin. So, not interested.

Exactomundo. Pricetag and resin are two swift kicks to the balls that will end a lovely evening.

LOST Cybertronian wrote:The concept drawing looks great, the prototype not so much.

To be fair though, the prototype does look very prototype-y. I'd have to imagine if you're targeting the 'MUST HAVE EXCLUSIVES' fans and 'GIMME LIMITED RUN' folks, the item has to be killer. Recall that Master Collector's Nova Prime? I'd still do sexual favors for one of those, resin be damned. I still hit them up about every month to bug them that they need to get with another 3rd party and get a plastic-mass-selling-project going on. I'm sure they hate me at this point, but I hate them for limiting the epic awesome. I'd expect almost the same from the final product in this instance. The Powermaster feel for Classics Prime (something I know others have wanted forever and I've been hitting Fansproject up with as a suggestion about every other week - you can do the same on their website, they allow you to submit ideas!) coupled with some Apex love, there will be a following with the bank to drop on it. The finalized item should kick all sorts of ass, im-suspected-o.

NemesisMonkeySupreme wrote:Why does everything have to be "exclusive this," "convention that"?
Seriously, just sell the damned thing!!!

Damn right. It's not like there's a lack of demand for these things. Definitely has to be a price-driver-upper. But, as much as we all hate it, in this world's economy I can't blame them. I wouldn't do the same, because I don't suck like that, but I can't really blame them.

LOST Cybertronian wrote:I am thinking that G1Uppers Firemaster upgrade will blow this one out of the water. At least I hope.

Sorry, off & on out of the loop on new stuff. What's this G1Uppers Firemaster upgrade?? Does it go with Classics Optimus??

Cyber_Tek wrote:Next year? Forget it. I'll have a Classic Prime and two armor/trailer sets by then. They can keep this "conference exclusive".

Which armor/trailer sets are you referring, out of curiosity? Just wanting to make sure there's not some Classics Prime material out there I'm not either in possession of or looking to pick up already.

Covenant wrote:

LOST Cybertronian wrote:I am thinking that G1Uppers Firemaster upgrade will blow this one out of the water. At least I hope.

Sorry, off & on out of the loop on new stuff. What's this G1Uppers Firemaster upgrade?? Does it go with Classics Optimus??

Actually it goes with Animated Optimus Prime, I know apples and oranges and there is no real prototype yet but it can't be much worse than this.

I hate this, the head is just a cube with a Prime face on one side, the lower legs are far too long and it looks sad and awkward without the apex armour stuff.

Man and to think I was going crazy over how I would be able to get this.

"Which armor/trailer sets are you referring, out of curiosity? Just wanting to make sure there's not some Classics Prime material out there I'm not either in possession of or looking to pick up already."

I've been looking at Classic Prime and Ultra Magnus. So far, I've noticed these armor sets for them at TFSource.com:

*Classics City Commander Trailer set- $249

*TFCon Powered Convoy- $259

And then there is this Vector Zeta Slagacon 2011 Exclusive at $175? Seems a bargain compared to the other two armors. But aren't there other armor sets that care compatible with the Classics Prime?

Cyber_Tek wrote:"Which armor/trailer sets are you referring, out of curiosity? Just wanting to make sure there's not some Classics Prime material out there I'm not either in possession of or looking to pick up already."

I've been looking at Classic Prime and Ultra Magnus. So far, I've noticed these armor sets for them at TFSource.com:

*Classics City Commander Trailer set- $249

*TFCon Powered Convoy- $259

And then there is this Vector Zeta Slagacon 2011 Exclusive at $175? Seems a bargain compared to the other two armors. But aren't there other armor sets that care compatible with the Classics Prime?

There were several different types of armor kits

City Commander: Upgrade for the Ultra Magnus repaint

D.I.A. Clone Commander: Homage’s to the deleted scene of a blue, black and red Ultra Magnus. As well as I believe one of the original Diaclones. An upgrade for the Classics OP

Powered Commander: the same as D.I.A. Clone Commander but with chrome details Upgrade for Classics OP

Shadow Commander: It a black and purple repaint that goes with the Shattered Glass SDCC Prime (I think)

Victor Zeta: homage’s God Ginrai, the leader of the Autobots from Super-God Masterforce

WOW. And since all of those armor sets only work with the Classics Prime's/Classics Ultra Magnus/Classics Nemesis, then one of the Classics Prime variants is next on my list.

Cyber_Tek wrote:WOW. And since all of those armor sets only work with the Classics Prime's/Classics Ultra Magnus/Classics Nemesis, then one of the Classics Prime variants is next on my list.

yup, pretty much (start saving, OP figures are mucho $$$)

Yea, but the Classics figures are cheaper than the armor. I found a Classics OP for $69. Think I better order that one right now. Too bad the PP01 has no armor options. I was going to go that route but eh, not at this time.

Cyber_Tek wrote:Yea, but the Classics figures are cheaper than the armor. I found a Classics OP for $69. Think I better order that one right now. Too bad the PP01 has no armor options. I was going to go that route but eh, not at this time.

yes you are right about that, also I've been searching for years to find a good price for both, so you're very lucky!

godzillabot wrote:

Cyber_Tek wrote:Yea, but the Classics figures are cheaper than the armor. I found a Classics OP for $69. Think I better order that one right now. Too bad the PP01 has no armor options. I was going to go that route but eh, not at this time.

yes you are right about that, also I've been searching for years to find a good price for both, so you're very lucky!

I pulled the trigger on that order. TFSource.com. Around $80 plus shipping. Everywhere else, the same Classics OP was $80 or more before shipping. The Ultra Magnus was $99, so Classics OP it is. It will be very economical to have one OP that is compatible with multiple armor sets. It may even be compatible with my G1 Trailer. We shall see. And I should note that I got a Japanese Classics Prime, not the American Walmart Exclusive Classics Prime, if that matters.

I'm going to ask because I don't know, but what is bad about "resin", regarding the Vector Zeta?

Cyber_Tek wrote:

godzillabot wrote:

Cyber_Tek wrote:Yea, but the Classics figures are cheaper than the armor. I found a Classics OP for $69. Think I better order that one right now. Too bad the PP01 has no armor options. I was going to go that route but eh, not at this time.

yes you are right about that, also I've been searching for years to find a good price for both, so you're very lucky!

I pulled the trigger on that order. TFSource.com. Around $80 plus shipping. Everywhere else, the same Classics OP was $80 or more before shipping. The Ultra Magnus was $99, so Classics OP it is. It will be very economical to have one OP that is compatible with multiple armor sets. It may even be compatible with my G1 Trailer. We shall see. And I should note that I got a Japanese Classics Prime, not the American Walmart Exclusive Classics Prime, if that matters.

I'm going to ask because I don't know, but what is bad about "resin", regarding the Vector Zeta?

I'm not really sure, I think that resin when used in toys becomes rather fragile

Ah... Fragile is indeed bad for Transformers, even if all you do is transform and display them.

godzillabot wrote: Shadow Commander: It a black and purple repaint that goes with the Shattered Glass SDCC Prime (I think)

Not quite. It's for the SDCC Nemesis Prime. No current armor or trailer is specifically for Shattered Glass Optimus.

godzillabot wrote:I'm not really sure, I think that resin when used in toys becomes rather fragile

I've got a couple of resin items (most through Shapeways mind you) but I've never had any problems with fragility.

For the Optimus mold I currently have the first run City Commander (with the FP upgrade missiles and rifle) for Magnus, the FP G3 trailer for Optimus Prime, and the BTS-01B Nemesis Command Center for Nemesis Prime.

If I do manage to pick up the Vector Zed (or whatever random gibberish they call it) I'm not sure if I'd put it on the Classics Prime or the Henkei Convoy.

And after seeing those prices the mold goes for I'm glad I picked them up at retail or on preorder!

godzillabot wrote: D.I.A. Clone Commander: Homage’s to the deleted scene of a blue, black and red Ultra Magnus. As well as I believe one of the original Diaclones. An upgrade for the Classics OP

It's for the Henkei version and yes it's homage to the Powered Convoy toy, which was used for G1 Ultra Magnus.

Powered Commander: the same as D.I.A. Clone Commander but with chrome details Upgrade for Classics OP

No chrome, the DIA version has the chrome.
This one is made to fit the Classics Prime, has a special TFCon Toronto sticker, and a "lunch box" whish is also only available in this version. Also this is the rarer and more expensive one.

zodconvoy wrote:

godzillabot wrote: Shadow Commander: It a black and purple repaint that goes with the Shattered Glass SDCC Prime (I think)

Not quite. It's for the SDCC Nemesis Prime. No current armor or trailer is specifically for Shattered Glass Optimus.

godzillabot wrote:I'm not really sure, I think that resin when used in toys becomes rather fragile

I've got a couple of resin items (most through Shapeways mind you) but I've never had any problems with fragility.

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Yeah I agree. Depending on how the resin is made, it isn't brittle or will fall apart in your hands but it should be handled with care.

zodconvoy wrote:

godzillabot wrote: Shadow Commander: It a black and purple repaint that goes with the Shattered Glass SDCC Prime (I think)

Not quite. It's for the SDCC Nemesis Prime. No current armor or trailer is specifically for Shattered Glass Optimus.

godzillabot wrote:I'm not really sure, I think that resin when used in toys becomes rather fragile

I've got a couple of resin items (most through Shapeways mind you) but I've never had any problems with fragility.

For the Optimus mold I currently have the first run City Commander (with the FP upgrade missiles and rifle) for Magnus, the FP G3 trailer for Optimus Prime, and the BTS-01B Nemesis Command Center for Nemesis Prime.

If I do manage to pick up the Vector Zed (or whatever random gibberish they call it) I'm not sure if I'd put it on the Classics Prime or the Henkei Convoy.

And after seeing those prices the mold goes for I'm glad I picked them up at retail or on preorder!

amcgrath929 wrote:

zodconvoy wrote:

godzillabot wrote: Shadow Commander: It a black and purple repaint that goes with the Shattered Glass SDCC Prime (I think)

Not quite. It's for the SDCC Nemesis Prime. No current armor or trailer is specifically for Shattered Glass Optimus.

godzillabot wrote:I'm not really sure, I think that resin when used in toys becomes rather fragile

I've got a couple of resin items (most through Shapeways mind you) but I've never had any problems with fragility.

!

Yeah I agree. Depending on how the resin is made, it isn't brittle or will fall apart in your hands but it should be handled with care.

Okay I’m feeling really stupid, thanks for the clarification on everything guys!

There has been a lot of interest in our exclusive for Slagacon 2011, the Vector Zeta armor set, and we thank everyone who’s purchased one so far. One of the most common requests we’ve seen, both here and on TF fan boards across the ‘net, is the desire for a non-attendee package. After much deliberation, we’ve decided to open up Vector Zeta to the general public.

Here’s how it will work:

On the “Pre-registration” page will be a new category, “Non-Attendee”. This is where you’ll be able to order the Vector Zeta armor. A non-attendee set will run $190 + shipping & handling. Shipping will be via USPS using Flat Rate Priority Mail, and includes insurance and delivery confirmation (where available).

All non-attendee packages will be mailed out shortly after the convention in October. If you’ve already ordered a Vector Zeta armor set along with the Attendee package, and aren’t able to make it to the convention, we’ll contact you after the convention to arrange for shipping/handling payment.

We thank you for having patience with us as we work through our growing pains. We hope to see you at Slagaon 2011!

“Vector Zeta” is the name we have given a new custom armor set, designed to work with Hasbro’s Classics Optimus Prime figure. This cast resin kit will be distributed completely assembled, along with a sheet of stickers for additional detailing. The creator of this set has limited his production to 100 sets. Because of this, and the cost of production, we’ve set our price at $175 for the kit.

In 2012, we will have second set to work with this one, inspired by the “Apex Armor” from Hasbro’s “Powermaster Optimus Prime”. This will include a second trailer, as well as two smaller figures, one of which transforms into a new head for the figure. We do not yet have a price for this set, but will post it as soon as it is available.

Any of you pick up this Vector Zeta? If so, post some pics.

I'm so close to pulling the trigger on this and while the drawings are nice I kinda wish I could see at least an actual prototype. I know the one posted in the thread wasn't the same project but similar. $190 is a lot to ask for something we haven't seen yet. I'm keeping my eye out on this one.

I wouldn't pay $190 for anything without seeing a bunch of pics and several reviews. That's how I arrived at DIA Commander for my Classics Henkei.

allready sold outif anyone liks it better be lucky to find one to get

why does everyone seems to hate the fact that this mold is resin why? is it bad plastic or something cuase iam thinking about maybe getting this if i get to see some pictures..