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Does this,in theory,stop scalping?

The bots that are used on shopping sites would stopped by this system?

TulioDude wrote:Does this,in theory,stop scalping?

The bots that are used on shopping sites would stopped by this system?

This is instead the perfect opportunity for resellers. They kniw thst not everyone who wants one will go through all this. So they will buy several and resell for as much as they can on the secondary market. Not sure it's exactly the same as scalping but this definitely welcomes opportunistic behaviour.
Someone posted thst they bought 3.

william-james88 wrote:

TulioDude wrote:Does this,in theory,stop scalping?

The bots that are used on shopping sites would stopped by this system?

This is instead the perfect opportunity for resellers. They kniw thst not everyone who wants one will go through all this. So they will buy several and resell for as much as they can on the secondary market. Not sure it's exactly the same as scalping but this definitely welcomes opportunistic behaviour.
Someone posted thst they bought 3.

Indeed. It wouldn't surprise me if the scalpers WERE the intended market.

william-james88 wrote:

TulioDude wrote:Does this,in theory,stop scalping?

The bots that are used on shopping sites would stopped by this system?

This is instead the perfect opportunity for resellers. They kniw thst not everyone who wants one will go through all this. So they will buy several and resell for as much as they can on the secondary market. Not sure it's exactly the same as scalping but this definitely welcomes opportunistic behaviour.
Someone posted thst they bought 3.

So much for that "limit 1 per person" then.

Burn wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

TulioDude wrote:Does this,in theory,stop scalping?

The bots that are used on shopping sites would stopped by this system?

This is instead the perfect opportunity for resellers. They kniw thst not everyone who wants one will go through all this. So they will buy several and resell for as much as they can on the secondary market. Not sure it's exactly the same as scalping but this definitely welcomes opportunistic behaviour.
Someone posted thst they bought 3.

So much for that "limit 1 per person" then.

It is? I didn't see that on the site when I checked after I saw the post.

william-james88 wrote:

Burn wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

TulioDude wrote:Does this,in theory,stop scalping?

The bots that are used on shopping sites would stopped by this system?

This is instead the perfect opportunity for resellers. They kniw thst not everyone who wants one will go through all this. So they will buy several and resell for as much as they can on the secondary market. Not sure it's exactly the same as scalping but this definitely welcomes opportunistic behaviour.
Someone posted thst they bought 3.

So much for that "limit 1 per person" then.

It is? I didn't see that on the site when I checked after I saw the post.

You literally put it in the story.

The limit for each person never seemed to dissuade scalpers at conventions...

Burn wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Burn wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

TulioDude wrote:Does this,in theory,stop scalping?

The bots that are used on shopping sites would stopped by this system?

This is instead the perfect opportunity for resellers. They kniw thst not everyone who wants one will go through all this. So they will buy several and resell for as much as they can on the secondary market. Not sure it's exactly the same as scalping but this definitely welcomes opportunistic behaviour.
Someone posted thst they bought 3.

So much for that "limit 1 per person" then.

It is? I didn't see that on the site when I checked after I saw the post.

You literally put it in the story.

right right, can't believe I missed it. I expected to see it next to the price or at the end or something like that.

Maybe the person who posted was just messing around, kinda like a joke or something.

I do still see an opportunity for people who could not care much for this toy but knew how to act on this. They could sell the toy (at markup) and keep the NFT. No scalping though.

But I'll be honest, I don't think scalping is as big a deal as some make it out to be. The toys selling for a bunch on the secondary market (like Greenlight, and Siege Skywarp) are toys that did not sell out right away. And sure, for mainline toys collectors are intersted in, it might happen at the begining when a toy comes out, but then they end up available online eventually or in greater numbers in stores (even red card exclusives). But I know, it's a discussion for another place.

william-james88 wrote:

Burn wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Burn wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

TulioDude wrote:Does this,in theory,stop scalping?

The bots that are used on shopping sites would stopped by this system?

This is instead the perfect opportunity for resellers. They kniw thst not everyone who wants one will go through all this. So they will buy several and resell for as much as they can on the secondary market. Not sure it's exactly the same as scalping but this definitely welcomes opportunistic behaviour.
Someone posted thst they bought 3.

So much for that "limit 1 per person" then.

It is? I didn't see that on the site when I checked after I saw the post.

You literally put it in the story.

right right, can't believe I missed it. I expected to see it next to the price or at the end or something like that.

Maybe the person who posted was just messing around, kinda like a joke or something.

I do still see an opportunity for people who could not care much for this toy but knew how to act on this. They could sell the toy (at markup) and keep the NFT. No scalping though.

But I'll be honest, I don't think scalping is as big a deal as some make it out to be. The toys selling for a bunch on the secondary market (like Greenlight, and Siege Skywarp) are toys that did not sell out right away. And sure, for mainline toys collectors are intersted in, it might happen at the begining when a toy comes out, but then they end up available online eventually or in greater numbers in stores (even red card exclusives). But I know, it's a discussion for another place.

What? The Earthrise Seekers go for silly money and they were limited to certain physical shops/online sites (such as TT Mall in Japan). For some of us, they were VERY difficult to get, due to not knowing where they were being sold (I thought it was Amazon at the time).

I really wanted this because the megazord itself is awesome sauce. But not enough cash. I will really be sad if this is the only way to get the black and gold version, though given that it is a "redeemable token" makes me think otherwise.

That being said, NFT are the single most idiotic element to come out of crypto ever. It's DIGITAL ART. Oh, you own it? copy/paste SO DOES EVERYONE. It's like the people in the high art community that have paid stupid amounts of money for "invisible art" That's a real thing btw, look it up. People have paid thousands of dollars for literally nothing.


Makes you wonder sometimes... If I put a wad of used toilet paper up for sale as art, and just make up some deep meaning for it, can I get rich? As an actual artist, this kind of thing just irks me.

Immortal Starscream wrote:I really wanted this because the megazord itself is awesome sauce. But not enough cash. I will really be sad if this is the only way to get the black and gold version, though given that it is a "redeemable token" makes me think otherwise.

That being said, NFT are the single most idiotic element to come out of crypto ever. It's DIGITAL ART. Oh, you own it? copy/paste SO DOES EVERYONE. It's like the people in the high art community that have paid stupid amounts of money for "invisible art" That's a real thing btw, look it up. People have paid thousands of dollars for literally nothing.


Makes you wonder sometimes... If I put a wad of used toilet paper up for sale as art, and just make up some deep meaning for it, can I get rich? As an actual artist, this kind of thing just irks me.

https://youtu.be/Dw5kme5Q_Yo

Oh eff this. The last exclusive required I also sign up for a damn store credit card. Do they simply not want my money? I'm not jumping through MORE hoops for this crap. Don't get me started on the environmental damage this NFT fad does.

Immortal Starscream wrote:That being said, NFT are the single most idiotic element to come out of crypto ever. It's DIGITAL ART. Oh, you own it? copy/paste SO DOES EVERYONE.

People get hung up on the art component but it's really minor to this whole thing. It's just a digital investment/asset that can be traded in crypto currency. What matters is its worth in crypto, not the actual art itself. The art simply acts as a representation of your digital asset.

Immortal Starscream wrote:Makes you wonder sometimes... If I put a wad of used toilet paper up for sale as art, and just make up some deep meaning for it, can I get rich? As an actual artist, this kind of thing just irks me.

Make a name for yourself as a high profile artist and yes, you would be able to make money from used toilet paper. People will buy anything with a high profile name attached to it.

william-james88 wrote:People get hung up on the art component but it's really minor to this whole thing. It's just a digital investment/asset that can be traded in crypto currency. What matters is its worth in crypto, not the actual art itself. The art simply acts as a representation of your digital asset.

But again, other people can easily save that "art". I can't save a copy of someone's bitcoins.

If the purchase becomes more difficult, some collectors find the exclusives more desirable. I understand. Back in 2002, I was running around London buying Armada and RID from various Toys 'r Us and other shops. It was an effort but it was exciting for a while.

snavej wrote:If the purchase becomes more difficult, some collectors find the exclusives more desirable. I understand. Back in 2002, I was running around London buying Armada and RID from various Toys 'r Us and other shops. It was an effort but it was exciting for a while.

That's why I moved from the UK to Japan; it was easier to get TF toys.

Break in and destroy all copies of it. Crash their website if possible. Ban every member who buys one for life. This is inexcusable. Death to the tax-dodging environment-destroying pirate currencies, and screw the shortsighted geeks who created them and didn't see how their desire to create their own money with blackjack and hookers to "stick it to the man" would just end up being another way for greedy bastards who don't pay their dues as-is to unfairly accumulate wealth.

I'm tempted to quit giving Hasbro my money altogether, painful though that is with what I've left to collect and some of the upcoming legacy stuff.