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I couldn't get the track to download after several tries. Is the original CD version available commercially?

There's a difference between variety and irrelevance.

That's not meant to be a jab at Stan, my point is the 80s sound simply has no place in this Transformers project. To be honest, I'm flabbergasted that so many of you want this sort of stuff in the movie.

Just because this is based on a property born in the 80s doesn't make it the goddamned Wedding Singer. You want your old school, go buy the old movie and soundtrack and lament your lost innocence.

And I'm not necessarily in favor of the new soundtrack either, as I've not heard most of it. I'm more looking forward to the Original Score CD.

First-Aid wrote:As a professional musician, I will personally have to slap around anyone who markets rap as music. It is, in fact, poetry with a musical backdrop. Music is defined as having three elements- rhythm, melody, and harmony. Rap rarely posesses the latter two.

As for the song, it's not bad. But please, don't rip on Stan Bush as untalented. You don't win Emmys for being untalented (except for best actor/actress in a soap opera).

One more blast from the past before I go: to Bob Barker, the consummate host and one of the most influential people in the history of television: enjoy your retirement, you earned it. Those of us who grew up with TPIR will miss you, Bob. w00t controlling the pet population.

what about that band that was rage against the machine those guys would b-itch slap u into next week. in fact they would slap you so hard you would wake up on a plantation in slavin times

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Is the original song "Ground Zero" a 9/11 tribute?

Actually, "Ground Zero" (along with "Critical Mass") was a track by Stan and Vince for the 1997 Botcon. I will say that the song does feel a little weird after 9/11 occured, but the two are unrelated. I actually have a theory that this is part of the reason Stan changed the lyrics and made a few other changes while he was at it. Again, it is just my theory at the moment.

As for most of the comments being made here, "Ground Zero" (and 'Til All Are One)is a great piece of music (to me at least). No, it's not like today's crap, and it's not meant to be. It's not the same genre as Mutemath or Linkin Park and never will be. Those bands don't appeal to me, but Stan Bush (and classic rock) does. I bet the same holds true for the opposite (in most cases). It's just a matter of taste. Heck, I wouldn't care for a rap or jazz TF song, but I'm sure someone would.

Plus, this is not the piece that Stan submitted for the new movie. We haven't heard that one yet! Ths is just a remix/rerecording of an older song with some lyric twists to include on the US release of his album (which rocks by the way - I have the Italian version). Yes, he's capitalizing on his TF fanbase. Why not? Wouldn't you market and create music that the majority of your fans would be interested in?

No, dont like it.

Dont want that in the movie, sounds like a cartoon theme.

Ravage XK wrote:No, dont like it.

Dont want that in the movie, sounds like a cartoon theme.

LMAO... I like that.

Maybe if somebody 'mashed' this with an song from linkin park (not their new rubbish one) or somebody similar it could be dragged kickin and screaming into this century.

I just listened to the updated transformers the movie theme released by Black Lab... now thats how you update a song... pity it wont be used.

Roboto750 wrote:It's just a matter of taste. Heck, I wouldn't care for a rap or jazz TF song, but I'm sure someone would.

Qoted for mother-effin truth.

Here's a good idea people.....remember that in a case like this, there is no fact....only opinion.

Example:

This music sucks....in my opinion.

This music dosen't fit with the movie.....in my opinion.

This music is similar to music from the 80's & that makes it crap.....in my opinion.


or in my case:

the music was good, but the lyrics were lame....in my opinion.

But not everybody shares that opinion, & I respect their opinions, provided it's respecting others'.

Just keep in mind, people, wether music is considered good or not is almost completely opinion, & respect the opinions of other people on the boards. treat others the way we want to be treated & such......

Save the environment....don't piss in the genepool.....peace.

reanimate28 wrote:

Decepticon Spike wrote:

reanimate28 wrote:the movie guys didnt wanna pick this tune up eh? I guess Stan Bush will have to keep hustlin blow jobs on hollywood blvd to keep paying for the silly Wig/toupee he wears. PS the only thing good that came out of the 80s was the transformers and the fall of the berlin wall, the music back then sucked.

Gee, harsh much?
You were born in the 90's, weren't you? 90's music sucked worse than emo. The only good music from the 90's was grunge and NIN.

I was born in 87 my mom had me when she was older I have a brother who has 13 years on me he was the original transformers dude in our family. the music was bad back then I had to listen to my brothers crappy motley crue and metallica that **** sucked. as for the stan bush comment it was a joke!! besides if you cant take a hair joke then dont wear silly toupees...ok just shave your head like bruce willis and say yippie kai yay motherf-ucker. is there humor left with you olden dudes or did your winger albums suck it all away....ahhh nevermind just sit your dateless asses in front of your computer and eat your hot pockets.

Saying 80's music sucks on a TF board is like telling people in a gothic club you like Paris Hilton, it's not a good idea.
Though I respect your opinion, I don't like you calling us fans who have been since the beginning old and "dateless" many of us on here are married, something you, with your attitude, will never be.

Phenotype wrote:

Decepticon Spike wrote:It's easy to see who in this thread was born pre-80's or during, and who was born post 80's. Even though it does have a dated sound, the song is cool. A hell of a lot better than that mutemath crap.

I was born in 1981 and personally while I love the original TF movie soundtrack (mostly coz of nostalgia) I don't believe anything that sounds like those songs belongs in the new movie. I don't like the Mutemath theme either but I definitely think this new movie needs to stay as far away from '80s cheese metal as possible. I can appreciate some good cheese metal but there's a time and a place for that and this movie is neither.

I agree that it does not fit in the new movie.

First-Aid wrote:As a professional musician, I will personally have to slap around anyone who markets rap as music. It is, in fact, poetry with a musical backdrop.

Finally! Someone agrees with me!

Decepticon Spike wrote:

reanimate28 wrote:

Decepticon Spike wrote:

reanimate28 wrote:the movie guys didnt wanna pick this tune up eh? I guess Stan Bush will have to keep hustlin blow jobs on hollywood blvd to keep paying for the silly Wig/toupee he wears. PS the only thing good that came out of the 80s was the transformers and the fall of the berlin wall, the music back then sucked.

Gee, harsh much?
You were born in the 90's, weren't you? 90's music sucked worse than emo. The only good music from the 90's was grunge and NIN.

I was born in 87 my mom had me when she was older I have a brother who has 13 years on me he was the original transformers dude in our family. the music was bad back then I had to listen to my brothers crappy motley crue and metallica that **** sucked. as for the stan bush comment it was a joke!! besides if you cant take a hair joke then dont wear silly toupees...ok just shave your head like bruce willis and say yippie kai yay motherf-ucker. is there humor left with you olden dudes or did your winger albums suck it all away....ahhh nevermind just sit your dateless asses in front of your computer and eat your hot pockets.

Saying 80's music sucks on a TF board is like telling people in a gothic club you like Paris Hilton, it's not a good idea.
Though I respect your opinion, I don't like you calling us fans who have been since the beginning old and "dateless" many of us on here are married, something you, with your attitude, will never be.

Indeed. I myself am married & have 2 kids. Not only that, but "the Touch" is one of the few songs I tend to play that my daughter really likes. It's kinda funny seeing a 5-year-old girl running around the house singing, "You've got the touch....you've got the powerrrrrrrr!!!"

reanimate28 wrote:

First-Aid wrote:As a professional musician, I will personally have to slap around anyone who markets rap as music. It is, in fact, poetry with a musical backdrop. Music is defined as having three elements- rhythm, melody, and harmony. Rap rarely posesses the latter two.

As for the song, it's not bad. But please, don't rip on Stan Bush as untalented. You don't win Emmys for being untalented (except for best actor/actress in a soap opera).

One more blast from the past before I go: to Bob Barker, the consummate host and one of the most influential people in the history of television: enjoy your retirement, you earned it. Those of us who grew up with TPIR will miss you, Bob. w00t controlling the pet population.

what about that band that was rage against the machine those guys would b-itch slap u into next week. in fact they would slap you so hard you would wake up on a plantation in slavin times

Other than "Renegades of Funk" did they have any other songs?

Nemesis Cyberplex wrote:

Decepticon Spike wrote:

reanimate28 wrote:

Decepticon Spike wrote:

reanimate28 wrote:the movie guys didnt wanna pick this tune up eh? I guess Stan Bush will have to keep hustlin blow jobs on hollywood blvd to keep paying for the silly Wig/toupee he wears. PS the only thing good that came out of the 80s was the transformers and the fall of the berlin wall, the music back then sucked.

Gee, harsh much?
You were born in the 90's, weren't you? 90's music sucked worse than emo. The only good music from the 90's was grunge and NIN.

I was born in 87 my mom had me when she was older I have a brother who has 13 years on me he was the original transformers dude in our family. the music was bad back then I had to listen to my brothers crappy motley crue and metallica that **** sucked. as for the stan bush comment it was a joke!! besides if you cant take a hair joke then dont wear silly toupees...ok just shave your head like bruce willis and say yippie kai yay motherf-ucker. is there humor left with you olden dudes or did your winger albums suck it all away....ahhh nevermind just sit your dateless asses in front of your computer and eat your hot pockets.

Saying 80's music sucks on a TF board is like telling people in a gothic club you like Paris Hilton, it's not a good idea.
Though I respect your opinion, I don't like you calling us fans who have been since the beginning old and "dateless" many of us on here are married, something you, with your attitude, will never be.

Indeed. I myself am married & have 2 kids. Not only that, but "the Touch" is one of the few songs I tend to play that my daughter really likes. It's kinda funny seeing a 5-year-old girl running around the house singing, "You've got the touch....you've got the powerrrrrrrr!!!"

That's cool!
I've been married once, and getting ready to do it again. My fiance wants "The Touch" and "Dare" played at our wedding.
When we have kids, they are not listening to any of this new stuff till they are older. Music should make you feel good, not make you feel like you should wear a condom while hearing it, or make you angry.

Decepticon Spike wrote:

reanimate28 wrote:

Decepticon Spike wrote:

reanimate28 wrote:the movie guys didnt wanna pick this tune up eh? I guess Stan Bush will have to keep hustlin blow jobs on hollywood blvd to keep paying for the silly Wig/toupee he wears. PS the only thing good that came out of the 80s was the transformers and the fall of the berlin wall, the music back then sucked.

Gee, harsh much?
You were born in the 90's, weren't you? 90's music sucked worse than emo. The only good music from the 90's was grunge and NIN.

I was born in 87 my mom had me when she was older I have a brother who has 13 years on me he was the original transformers dude in our family. the music was bad back then I had to listen to my brothers crappy motley crue and metallica that **** sucked. as for the stan bush comment it was a joke!! besides if you cant take a hair joke then dont wear silly toupees...ok just shave your head like bruce willis and say yippie kai yay motherf-ucker. is there humor left with you olden dudes or did your winger albums suck it all away....ahhh nevermind just sit your dateless asses in front of your computer and eat your hot pockets.

Saying 80's music sucks on a TF board is like telling people in a gothic club you like Paris Hilton, it's not a good idea.
Though I respect your opinion, I don't like you calling us fans who have been since the beginning old and "dateless" many of us on here are married, something you, with your attitude, will never be.

Hey news flash The music of the 80s did and does suck huge metal p-enis. as for my attitude the girls think I am very pogi and funny when the time comes I will not have a problem getting married. you must be old and calbo to be so offended by a joke ....putang enimo!

reanimate28 wrote:

Decepticon Spike wrote:

reanimate28 wrote:

Decepticon Spike wrote:

reanimate28 wrote:the movie guys didnt wanna pick this tune up eh? I guess Stan Bush will have to keep hustlin blow jobs on hollywood blvd to keep paying for the silly Wig/toupee he wears. PS the only thing good that came out of the 80s was the transformers and the fall of the berlin wall, the music back then sucked.

Gee, harsh much?
You were born in the 90's, weren't you? 90's music sucked worse than emo. The only good music from the 90's was grunge and NIN.

I was born in 87 my mom had me when she was older I have a brother who has 13 years on me he was the original transformers dude in our family. the music was bad back then I had to listen to my brothers crappy motley crue and metallica that **** sucked. as for the stan bush comment it was a joke!! besides if you cant take a hair joke then dont wear silly toupees...ok just shave your head like bruce willis and say yippie kai yay motherf-ucker. is there humor left with you olden dudes or did your winger albums suck it all away....ahhh nevermind just sit your dateless asses in front of your computer and eat your hot pockets.

Saying 80's music sucks on a TF board is like telling people in a gothic club you like Paris Hilton, it's not a good idea.
Though I respect your opinion, I don't like you calling us fans who have been since the beginning old and "dateless" many of us on here are married, something you, with your attitude, will never be.

Hey news flash The music of the 80s did and does suck huge metal p-enis. as for my attitude the girls think I am very pogi and funny when the time comes I will not have a problem getting married. you must be old and calbo to be so offended by a joke ....putang enimo!

80's music sucking is your opinion, just like I think the new music sucking is mine.
And what kind of girl like your kind of attitude? That right, GIRLS not WOMEN!
If you are trying to make a joke, you need to go back to Joke 101.

That was great till the words started.

WTF is pogi? I think someone got their feelings hurt and wants to flex their e-muscle. GRRRRR you go Bad Boy show us how tough you are.



Ps: Before you do tht remenber you're on a website about toys trying to be a badass.

might be a good idea to drop the insults & stuff before the thread gets locked.

I like it. Cheesy sure, but it's good.

I think it sounds great. Alot better than the crap we have been given. He sounds very meat-loafish now though, which isnt a bad thing IMO.

It's funny I grabbed that Album a while ago and that song isn't on there... maybe the Botcon version will be an exclusive printing of that album with the song.

Grimlock86 wrote:

Burn wrote:Is it just me or is Stan Bush desperately clinging to his one claim to fame?

I think the other claim from him was one of the Kickboxer's soundtracks. But, after second thought, yes...

He did the theme song to the olympics also.

Robinson wrote:WTF is pogi? I think someone got their feelings hurt and wants to flex their e-muscle. GRRRRR you go Bad Boy show us how tough you are.



Ps: Before you do tht remenber you're on a website about toys trying to be a badass.

Pogi is Tagalog take your head out of your ass other places in the world exist outside your lil world,come to Philippines you would not last 2 seconds here. how come you guys can say what ever you want but when someone else says something you dont like you slag them down. pwet!

reanimate28 wrote:

Robinson wrote:WTF is pogi? I think someone got their feelings hurt and wants to flex their e-muscle. GRRRRR you go Bad Boy show us how tough you are.



Ps: Before you do tht remenber you're on a website about toys trying to be a badass.

Pogi is Tagalog take your head out of your ass other places in the world exist outside your lil world,come to Philippines you would not last 2 seconds here. how come you guys can say what ever you want but when someone else says something you dont like you slag them down. pwet!

1. Never did I mention anything about my lil world.
2. All I asked was a question tough guy, and
3. You started slingin insults before anyone else on here, but when someone slings them your way you cry foul and "I'm being singled out".

I F***'in Love it!!! Whether it has a place in the movie or not is unfortunately not up to me, but this song rules. It is indeed very inspiring sounding. And on the same token, Stan Bush is extremely talented. Pretty much the fact that he can still sing like that is testament enough. A friend of mine went to a party held for a video game release in L.A. last week, and Stan Bush was hired to play the party. She sent me a clip of him playing "The Touch" and he sounded as kick ass as he ever did, even through a crappy cell phone recording. Also i assure you, thats his real hair. KEEP KICKIN ASS STAN!!!!!