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Re: Star Trek: The Next Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:20 pm

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Galvamegs wrote:But Star Trek has more media (i.e. Tv shows, movies, books)

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Star Wars has had a number of cartoons. They also had 20 years of Expanded Universe books. Not to mention 20+ years of comics from Dark Horse. Star Wars has far more story material. I'd tell you to go read someone, but you've basically made it clear you want people to read things to you like a bed time story.

Also, Star Trek is sci-FI and therefore has more potential for interesting stories.

Star Wars is sci-fi you ... yeah.


What really got me to notice Star Trek were the Filmation re-runs of the series. It was like...wow back then. Before battle of the Planets and just during the original Thunderbirds and Captain Scarlett and Star Fleet runs.
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Thread

Postby Galvamegs » Thu Oct 22, 2015 12:09 am

Star Trek lends itself wells to all forms of media. Star Wars really only works as movies.
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Thread

Postby Burn » Thu Oct 22, 2015 12:15 am

Galvamegs wrote:Star Trek lends itself wells to all forms of media. Star Wars really only works as movies.

The current Rebels and recent Clone Wars cartoons would say otherwise, as would 20+ years of comics and novels.

But why am I even wasting my time explaining this to you? You have your own set opinion, even when you ask for the opinions of others you just disregard them anyway.

Can I ban you already? I haven't banned anyone in two weeks. I feel like banning someone.
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Thread

Postby Insurgent » Thu Oct 22, 2015 4:41 am

Star wars works in games and tv shows as well. (Can't comment on the comics, not read them).


I don't think Star Trek works in games. Not in this day and age of everyone wanting shoot em ups in games. A Final Unity will always be ranked as the best Trek game as far as I'm concerned, but I honestly don't think something like that would ever get made today.
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Thread

Postby Galvamegs » Thu Oct 22, 2015 2:07 pm

All the Star Trek games today are about graphics. They don't require you to use your brain like the old games (eg. Legend of Zelda).

Why didn't Khan go down when Spock did the Vulcan neck pinch to him in "Into Darkness". No one has ever gotten up from that move, sort of like Jake the Snake Roberts DDT.
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Thu Oct 22, 2015 6:40 pm

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Because Khan (at least the Ricardo Montalban version) is uber awesomesauce. Only wimps succumb to a nerve pinch.

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Re: Star Trek: The Next Thread

Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Thu Oct 22, 2015 8:11 pm

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Galvamegs wrote:Why didn't Khan go down when Spock did the Vulcan neck pinch to him in "Into Darkness". No one has ever gotten up from that move, sort of like Jake the Snake Roberts DDT.

you need to watch more trek.

there have been a few people the nerve pinch did not work on or at least had some resistance

Gary Seven
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Thread

Postby Galvamegs » Fri Oct 23, 2015 12:08 am

Spock's nerve pinch is the most potent.
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Thread

Postby Insurgent » Fri Oct 23, 2015 3:16 am

When did Riker resist the nerve pinch?
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Thread

Postby Galvamegs » Fri Oct 23, 2015 11:50 am

Star Trek should have ended after "The Voyage Home".
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Thread

Postby Insurgent » Fri Oct 23, 2015 12:10 pm

Care to elaborate why?
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Thread

Postby Galvamegs » Fri Oct 23, 2015 12:26 pm

Insurgent wrote:Care to elaborate why?

I change my mind. It should have ended after "Wrath of Khan" because that was the best Star Trek movie ever, hands down. And he was "Admiral" Kirk.
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Thread

Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Fri Oct 23, 2015 9:25 pm

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Insurgent wrote:When did Riker resist the nerve pinch?

TNG season 1 "Conspiracy"
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Thread

Postby Galvamegs » Fri Oct 23, 2015 10:14 pm

Spock's nerve pinch would have taken him down. There's a difference between the nerve pinch and Spock's nerve pinch.
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Thread

Postby Insurgent » Sat Oct 24, 2015 4:31 am

Huh. I need to watch that EP again then. I just remember the old admiral throwing riker around the room.
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Thread

Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Sat Oct 24, 2015 4:52 am

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Galvamegs wrote:Spock's nerve pinch would have taken him down. There's a difference between the nerve pinch and Spock's nerve pinch.

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Re: Star Trek: The Next Thread

Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Sat Oct 24, 2015 5:02 am

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Insurgent wrote:Huh. I need to watch that EP again then. I just remember the old admiral throwing riker around the room.

quick clip near 5;20

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tmuv8gPiBhg
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Thread

Postby Galvamegs » Sat Oct 24, 2015 9:14 pm

Kirk is a better Captain than Picard because he has people skills. Picard told Riker that he's not good with children and he needs him to keep up his image. Also Kirk was also head of security and led the away teams. Riker won't let Picard off the ship; Picard needs Riker's permission.
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Thread

Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Sat Oct 24, 2015 9:48 pm

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Galvamegs wrote:Kirk is a better Captain than Picard because he has people skills. Picard told Riker that he's not good with children and he needs him to keep up his image. Also Kirk was also head of security and led the away teams. Riker won't let Picard off the ship; Picard needs Riker's permission.

where do I begin..................
an inability to relate to children is not the same as saying he has bad people skills.

as a matter of fact,Picard is one of starfleets most skilled diplomatic, experienced and respected captains, so he has high rated people skills

its the 1st officers job to protect the captain, but even so, Picard went off ship anytime he felt he needed too, so no he needed no-ones permission.

at to whos the better captain...........i say Sisko :-D
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Thread

Postby Ironhidensh » Sun Oct 25, 2015 3:30 am

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sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Galvamegs wrote:Kirk is a better Captain than Picard because he has people skills. Picard told Riker that he's not good with children and he needs him to keep up his image. Also Kirk was also head of security and led the away teams. Riker won't let Picard off the ship; Picard needs Riker's permission.

where do I begin..................
an inability to relate to children is not the same as saying he has bad people skills.

as a matter of fact,Picard is one of starfleets most skilled diplomatic, experienced and respected captains, so he has high rated people skills

its the 1st officers job to protect the captain, but even so, Picard went off ship anytime he felt he needed too, so no he needed no-ones permission.

at to whos the better captain...........i say Sisko :-D

For me, its Archer.
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Thread

Postby Ironhidensh » Sun Oct 25, 2015 5:42 am

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Re: Star Trek: The Next Thread

Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Sun Oct 25, 2015 7:54 pm

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Ironhidensh wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Galvamegs wrote:Kirk is a better Captain than Picard because he has people skills. Picard told Riker that he's not good with children and he needs him to keep up his image. Also Kirk was also head of security and led the away teams. Riker won't let Picard off the ship; Picard needs Riker's permission.

where do I begin..................
an inability to relate to children is not the same as saying he has bad people skills.

as a matter of fact,Picard is one of starfleets most skilled diplomatic, experienced and respected captains, so he has high rated people skills

its the 1st officers job to protect the captain, but even so, Picard went off ship anytime he felt he needed too, so no he needed no-ones permission.

at to whos the better captain...........i say Sisko :-D

For me, its Archer.
really?

mind if i ask why?

in all my years ive never seen anyone say Archer was their fav cap.
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Thread

Postby Burn » Sun Oct 25, 2015 9:33 pm

I liked Archer as well. Mostly because I'm a Scott Bakula fan, but also, he was a fresh change from Janeway and he wasn't really stiffled by Federation rules.
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Thread

Postby Ironhidensh » Mon Oct 26, 2015 5:52 am

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I pretty much agree with Burn. Archer was so new and fresh. It was also nice to see them bumble around space without the asurity of the federation backing them up. Also, I positively hated Sisko, and I found Janeway only partially enjoyable. Archer was the first captain since Picard that I enjoyed watching.
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Thread

Postby OptimusN1701 » Mon Oct 26, 2015 12:12 pm

Sisko always came off as a little too arrogant for my liking, so I never watched much of DS9.

Plus being a dick to Picard in the very first episode kinda left a lasting bad taste in my mouth.
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