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Re: Star Trek: The Next Thread

Postby Ironhidensh » Mon Sep 25, 2017 4:39 am

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Re: Star Trek: The Next Thread

Postby Stuartmaximus » Mon Sep 25, 2017 4:53 am

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Stuartmaximus wrote:Anyone watched The first 2 episodes of Discovery yet?

Yes


well...don't spoil it, coz I haven't watched them yet, hopefully the night, but you can still give us your thoughts
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Thread

Postby Burn » Mon Sep 25, 2017 4:57 am

Stuartmaximus wrote:
Burn wrote:
Stuartmaximus wrote:Anyone watched The first 2 episodes of Discovery yet?

Yes

well...don't spoil it, coz I haven't watched them yet, hopefully the night, but you can still give us your thoughts

Too many subtitles.
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Thread

Postby Stuartmaximus » Mon Sep 25, 2017 12:43 pm

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there were subtitles in this when the Klingons spoke >:oP


+ it's canon that holograms don't exist during the Kirk era, so weird how they exist 10 years earlier? + cloaking devices didn't exist til TOS
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Thread

Postby Burn » Mon Sep 25, 2017 2:45 pm

Stuartmaximus wrote:there were subtitles in this when the Klingons spoke >:oP

And your point is?

+ it's canon that holograms don't exist during the Kirk era, so weird how they exist 10 years earlier? + cloaking devices didn't exist til TOS

At this point, I expect this show will change a bit of technology canon.
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Thread

Postby Ironhidensh » Mon Sep 25, 2017 3:15 pm

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The Romulans had cloaking in Enterprise. >:oP
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Thread

Postby Stuartmaximus » Mon Sep 25, 2017 3:30 pm

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Aye but that wasn't 10 YEARS before
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Thread

Postby Ironhidensh » Mon Sep 25, 2017 3:32 pm

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Yeah, it was over 100 years before.
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Thread

Postby Stuartmaximus » Mon Sep 25, 2017 3:36 pm

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so...in that case the NX-01 should still exist in Discovery's timeline(granted mothballed...but still exist)

makes me wonder if Archer's name'll get a mention :-?
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Thread

Postby Insurgent » Mon Sep 25, 2017 4:53 pm

Enterprise's Romulan cloaks were experimental and didn't work too well, which is why in Balance of Terror, their perfected cloak was such a surprise.


Don't know how spoilery I can get here. So I'll just say.....

Nice hearing the classic sound effects. Visually, the Trekkie in me is screaming it all looks wrong. Not that I want it to be exactly like the 60's, but it should be close to a modern interpretation of that aethetic. Hull plating should look like the connie, nacelles should be like the classic. After all, it's only 10 years before Kirk, the 1701 should be 10 years into her life already under the command of Robert April. I can forgive the Shinshou looking more like the NX because it's an old ship, even if the nacelles are wrong. I did like seeing that miranda class ship.


But that's just the trekkie in me being pedantic.


As for the show itself.... theme tune is utterly forgetable. Klingon parts feel off, especially when they talk, the holograms really annoy meas that tech was brand new in Sisko's time, and that means they have holoprojectors all over the Bridge.


But I do like all the Starfleet stuff. That really entertained me. Honestly, I think it would have been better setting it post Nemesis and changing the Klingons to something like the Xindi. Then, everything would fit perfectly.


I'm going to pretend this is it's own parallel universe seperate from all the others and keep watching.
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Thread

Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:50 pm

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+ it's canon that holograms don't exist during the Kirk era, so weird how they exist 10 years earlier? + cloaking devices didn't exist til TOS

I haven't seen this yet so I'm not commenting on the show but the facts you stated above are not exactly correct

First there is nothing canon about with the holograms existed or not....in fact there's evidence of other alien races with different degrees of hollow technology specifically from the enterprise the series
Well I have a question are we talking about Federation holo decks or just hologram technology in general?

Same goes for the cloaking device, other alien races we're going to have them in the enterprise series and the Romulans were working on early cloaking tech during the series also.....although that one was a bit a mistake on the enterprise series regarding the Romulans
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Thread

Postby Insurgent » Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:38 am

The holograms in discovery are holo communication. Luke those episodes o ds9, but they can walk every where on the ship and everyone seems to hav them as standard communication devices.
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Thread

Postby Stuartmaximus » Tue Sep 26, 2017 8:35 am

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well...Sto...whatever [-(

but you'll need to see the show(Discovery) to give us your thoughts & opinions on it
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Thread

Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Tue Sep 26, 2017 2:42 pm

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Insurgent wrote:The holograms in discovery are holo communication. Luke those episodes o ds9, but they can walk every where on the ship and everyone seems to hav them as standard communication devices.

On a federation ship? Do they look like they did on the F9 what is the image similar to what we got in the early Star Wars films?
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Thread

Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Tue Sep 26, 2017 2:43 pm

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Stuartmaximus wrote:well...Sto...whatever [-(


but you'll need to see the show(Discovery) to give us your thoughts & opinions on it

Don't be Hatin

And I want to try to watch it tonight or tomorrow and get back to you guys and what I think
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Thread

Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Tue Sep 26, 2017 8:28 pm

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I thought the show was going to be on Netflix but it's not on Netflix inside of the United States
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Thread

Postby Stuartmaximus » Wed Sep 27, 2017 8:46 am

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sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:I thought the show was going to be on Netflix but it's not on Netflix inside of the United States


I believe the first episode was on standard CBS then weirdly the 2nd episode wasn't?(only shown on CBS All Access... streaming service) but aye...it's probably available on other places now across the Internet
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Thread

Postby Stuartmaximus » Wed Sep 27, 2017 8:48 am

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Stuartmaximus wrote:well...Sto...whatever [-(


but you'll need to see the show(Discovery) to give us your thoughts & opinions on it

Don't be Hatin


And I want to try to watch it tonight or tomorrow and get back to you guys and what I think


hey I'm not hating! I love the JJ..esque look of the show(complete with lens flare)

but yeah there are some that do hate the look of it(as well as some issues within the show...so far!) but they're probably just stuck in what's came before with the various tv shows & cannot accept the new change, for those...most just reply.... Well go watch The Orville instead!
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Thread

Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:35 am

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I was just joking about the hate

And if any of you guys can point me to the rich and the findings of the cells of line I would appreciate it I'm not the most computer literate dude around
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Thread

Postby Insurgent » Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:26 am

They are shiney star wars style without flickering. Klingons have ds9 style ones. It's bizarre.

It's on Netflix outside us. But us has to view it on cbs all access.
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Thread

Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Thu Sep 28, 2017 12:23 pm

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Insurgent wrote:They are shiney star wars style without flickering. Klingons have ds9 style ones. It's bizarre.

It's on Netflix outside us. But us has to view it on cbs all access.


Well if the Klingons have it like Dss nine it is certainly bizarre but it's not necessarily a break with continuity we never really saw enough of Klingon tech to be able to say for certain what they did or did not have

It also wouldn't be much of a shock to me there's a certain house came to the holo technology from another race and never shared it with the rest of the empire but again not having seen the show yet I'm just speculating
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Thread

Postby Stuartmaximus » Mon Oct 02, 2017 1:42 pm

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Well...any of you watched episode 3 of Discovery yet? with the actual Discovery in it this time ;)
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Thread

Postby Burn » Mon Oct 02, 2017 5:21 pm

That's some fairly advanced technology they're developing, more so for the time period it's set in.
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Thread

Postby Stuartmaximus » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:02 pm

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some interesting theories I've heard

either the shows about the origins of Section 31(hence Discovery's registry, black armbands seen worn by a few of the crew)

or

the whole shows set in the mirror universe?
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Thread

Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Tue Oct 03, 2017 2:38 pm

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Stuartmaximus wrote:Well...any of you watched episode 3 of Discovery yet? with the actual Discovery in it this time ;)
thanks to you I was able to watch the first three episodes so again thank you

On the topic ,in all honesty I don't think the show is really that bad even with all the changes I'm not necessarily fond of
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