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Re: Takara Henkei Autobot Warriors Three-Pack Pre-orders: Ratchet, Kup, Perceptor

Postby Blurrz » Wed Feb 19, 2014 5:01 pm

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Why does Europe have so many different countries? Thats stupid. They're all white.

Its called different cultures, countries, customs and languages. In your eyes we might all look the **** same, but sorry, there's a great distinction between countries in Asia and their populations.

Why doesn't China and Japan share and hold hands together? Oh because maybe if you didn't know, the Japanese killed over 2 million Chinese civilians in WWII. That happened awhile ago but there's this deep seated distrust that still lingers on.

So with that in mind, not exactly hard to see why Hasbro Asia doesn't want to have their claws in everything, along with all of the other barriers. And as much as there cooperation between Takara and Hasbro, they are still seperate companies. Same thing goes for distribution in South Korea, which is not Hasbro Asia, rather a company called Mocom Toy.

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Re: Takara Henkei Autobot Warriors Three-Pack Pre-orders: Ratchet, Kup, Perceptor

Postby Rated X » Wed Feb 19, 2014 7:32 pm

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Blurrz wrote:Why does Europe have so many different countries? Thats stupid. They're all white.

Its called different cultures, countries, customs and languages. In your eyes we might all look the **** same, but sorry, there's a great distinction between countries in Asia and their populations.

Why doesn't China and Japan share and hold hands together? Oh because maybe if you didn't know, the Japanese killed over 2 million Chinese civilians in WWII. That happened awhile ago but there's this deep seated distrust that still lingers on.

So with that in mind, not exactly hard to see why Hasbro Asia doesn't want to have their claws in everything, along with all of the other barriers. And as much as there cooperation between Takara and Hasbro, they are still seperate companies. Same thing goes for distribution in South Korea, which is not Hasbro Asia, rather a company called Mocom Toy.


Well first we have to define what excatly does Hasbro mean when they refer to this "Asian Market" ??? Are they referring to the continent (reigon) or the race in general ??? You seem to act like you know the answer so enlighten me...

What exactly is the "market" anyways ? Do Asian kids like bright white plastic while American kids prefer off white ? Who defines this "market" on which colors of paint to use ? I can understand the shiny paint and extra paint apps being a cost issue. But who's the a**hole who picks plastic colors based on reigons or races and tries to pass it off as a "market" ? Why not one color universal ? Then the so called "collectors" versions can have more paint apps added....Just my opinion. After all, they all come from the same mold in the same factory...
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Re: Takara Henkei Autobot Warriors Three-Pack Pre-orders: Ratchet, Kup, Perceptor

Postby It Is Him » Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:25 pm

Rated X wrote:Well first we have to define what excatly does Hasbro mean when they refer to this "Asian Market" ???


All of Asia except Japan.

Honestly, it's really as simple as Hasbro didn't want to do the same thing twice. Would you rather Hasbro not make any effort with creating new paint apps for reissues?
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Re: Takara Henkei Autobot Warriors Three-Pack Pre-orders: Ratchet, Kup, Perceptor

Postby Rated X » Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:12 pm

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It Is Him wrote:
Rated X wrote:Well first we have to define what excatly does Hasbro mean when they refer to this "Asian Market" ???


All of Asia except Japan.

Honestly, it's really as simple as Hasbro didn't want to do the same thing twice. Would you rather Hasbro not make any effort with creating new paint apps for reissues?



In other words, Hasbro (Asia division) thinks kids give a crap. I can just see all the Chinese kids protesting because their Ratchet looks the same as Takara. GIVE US A RED ROOF !!!! WE ARE NOT JAPANESE !!!

The Asian market excuse is a load of crap. Back in the Henkei days, Hasbro told us that Thundercracker was not going to see a US release because that paint scheme was for the “Asian market”. Who deemed the character Thundercracker only worthy of the so called “Asian market” and why? If they can give the US the same mold in white (Starscream) why not in blue? Was blue an Asian color? Do American kids hate blue based on a Hasbro survey? Wasn’t it American artists who created the G1 characters in the first place to bring life to the rather bland Diaclone/Microman lines? And why does all this off white and grey plastic Hasbro uses even exist? It’s like they’re dying the plastic ugly colors on purpose just to make it different from Takara. My toothbrush is brighter white than my Hasbro Metroplex. That’s BS in my opinion…
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Re: Takara Henkei Autobot Warriors Three-Pack Pre-orders: Ratchet, Kup, Perceptor

Postby Counterpunch » Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:19 pm

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Doubtful. I think that would have been prominently displayed if it were the case.
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Re: Takara Henkei Autobot Warriors Three-Pack Pre-orders: Ratchet, Kup, Perceptor

Postby Banjo-Tron » Thu Feb 20, 2014 1:02 am

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Jesus christ X, asian is not a race. It is a huge continent containing all kinds of races, languages, religions and ethnic groups. You need to do your homework buddy because it already has far more people than any other continent and will be the dominant world 'superpower' in your lifetime due to its abundant natural resource, manufacturing industries, population etc
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Re: Takara Henkei Autobot Warriors Three-Pack Pre-orders: Ratchet, Kup, Perceptor

Postby GuyIncognito » Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:07 am

In this context, "Asia" is neither a continent nor a race nor a culture; it's a defined market. They call it the "Asia" market because it's a convenient term, that's all. There's no reason for anyone to be offended by it, and bringing race into the conversation serves no purpose other than to troll people.
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Re: Takara Henkei Autobot Warriors Three-Pack Pre-orders: Ratchet, Kup, Perceptor

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:12 am

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GuyIncognito wrote:In this context, "Asia" is neither a continent nor a race nor a culture; it's a defined market. They call it the "Asia" market because it's a convenient term, that's all. There's no reason for anyone to be offended by it, and bringing race into the conversation serves no purpose other than to troll people.
Basically, it's like how there's a market for the United Kingdom, and a market for mainland Europe, right?
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Re: Takara Henkei Autobot Warriors Three-Pack Pre-orders: Ratchet, Kup, Perceptor

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:17 am

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GuyIncognito wrote:In this context, "Asia" is neither a continent nor a race nor a culture; it's a defined market. They call it the "Asia" market because it's a convenient term, that's all. There's no reason for anyone to be offended by it, and bringing race into the conversation serves no purpose other than to troll people.
Basically, it's like how there's a market for the United Kingdom, and a market for mainland Europe, right?


Exactly, and if memory serves me right Hasbro has a division in each of them. Not the case with South-East Asia vs. Japan (and Korea for that matter), as TakaraTomy is Hasbro's channel there.
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Re: Takara Henkei Autobot Warriors Three-Pack Pre-orders: Ratchet, Kup, Perceptor

Postby Seibertron » Tue Feb 10, 2015 7:29 pm

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I'm working on the galleries of the last 3 Specialist sets right now. Frustration is running high with Ratchet. For some reason, his head looks down even more so than Henkei and Universe Ratchet. I can't figure out what the problem is with this particular version of Ratchet. Even Specialist Ironhide isn't this bad. Any of you have Specialist Ratchet? Is the head on yours worse than the other two versions?

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Re: Takara Henkei Autobot Warriors Three-Pack Pre-orders: Ratchet, Kup, Perceptor

Postby MemphisR56 » Mon Mar 02, 2015 7:10 am

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Seibertron wrote:I'm working on the galleries of the last 3 Specialist sets right now. Frustration is running high with Ratchet. For some reason, his head looks down even more so than Henkei and Universe Ratchet. I can't figure out what the problem is with this particular version of Ratchet. Even Specialist Ironhide isn't this bad. Any of you have Specialist Ratchet? Is the head on yours worse than the other two versions?

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I have specialist ratchet, he was way cheaper than picking up a universe or henkei one.

His head isn't any worse for me than specialist Ironhide. I'm not sure what would cause a problem, it might just be your individual item. I've gotten around it by having him look slightly off to the side anyways.
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Re: Takara Henkei Autobot Warriors Three-Pack Pre-orders: Ratchet, Kup, Perceptor

Postby Powered Convoy » Mon Mar 02, 2015 2:43 pm

Sabrblade wrote:My goodness, just how long have these gone without any imagery? Months? Years?

And why now, of all times? What sense does it make for these to be announced so far back yet never see the light of day until now?

And why these three? The Seekers and Coneheads made sense, but these? What's the connection?

And, "Henkei! Henkei!"? Seriously? Henkei! Henkei! is a dead toyline. Shouldn't Takara be marketing these as Generations, or at least as another late addition to United?

And why these decos? Were some really asking for a Perceptor with blue treads? Or a Ratchet (seriously, Universe Ratchet?) with a red hood/roof? Or a Kup with more :BOT: symbols and more dark gray?

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I've had mine for about a month or two now. I think the pack came out in March of last year.

They're definitely the best version of each (eHOBBY Kup might be better than this one though), but yeah probably not much interest in this set.

Perceptor takes the best elements of the Henkei (almost all the details) and the RtS version (chrome and yellow lights).

Ratchet is like Henkei but with red on the roof, a painted rear bumper, and some of his robot parts in silver.

Kup is like the United one with some more cartoon and toy accurate detailing.

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