Wolfguard wrote:Dagon wrote:It's perfectly valid to them. It's not up to you to determine whether or not someone's opinion or feeling is based on logic that you find acceptable and is thus a valid opinion.
This is pure double talk. You're saying it's perfectly fine for them to voice an opinion in public...but I
can't give an opinion on their opinion. Err...I was under the impression that having a discussion in a forum is exactly that - a discussion. And my point is when the discussion falls apart due to their reliance on emotions rather than information to get their point across. The opinion may be valid to them, but when silly things like personal attacks such as "
Bayfans=tehsuXXorz" or "
Gee-wunners" start entering the fray, I will certainly dismiss the person as anything more than a rabid fan (fanboy) who's throwing a childish tantrum. And that's when I don't care about their opinion.
<--- an opinion which is no less valid.
No, it isn't. I never said you or anyone else couldn't have or share an opinion. What I'm saying is that fanboy gets applies to some person who's opinion is deemed invalid because it is different from what a 'fan's' opinion would be.
If I think Bay sucks or is the best ever, that would make me a fanboy to those who disagree with my opinion.
If I think G1 is the best or is crap, that would make me a fanboy to those who disagree with my opinion.
Fanboy gets used as a brush off because the opinion expressed doesn't fit with the one that a 'fan' "should" have. If I should like the Bay movies because they've brought money and exposure and blah blah blah, then a dissenting opinion should be accepted as well, regardless of what that opinion is. Yes, there are 'bad' opinions for lack of a better term, but thinking the Bay movies are bad because one doesn't like the "humor" or robot designs is a valid opinion. It gets met with accusations of being a fanboy or a Geewunner because it's not the opinion that a 'fan' "should" have, which apparently means liking everything because that makes one a fan.
If we both give opinions and disagree, that's perfectly fine. It's how life works, actually.
If we give opinions and disagree, and then I brush you off as some pejorative name, that's wrong. 'Fanboy' slinging is the second one.
But, I respect the right of others to their opinions, so whatevs.
*EDIT: Absolutely, to the part of your quote in bold. All opinions are valid, at least to me when it comes to plastic robots, but I don't have any personal issue with people giving something other than the 'fan' approved answer. Like, if you still, after all this time, think there are too many Bumblebees, I'm fine with that, and I support your opinion. I'm not going to say it's an old or overused argument, because it's your opinion, and I respect the value of an opinion even if I disagree personally.