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Tranzilla wrote:

mooncake623 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

mooncake623 wrote:So.. I kind of want this Toys R Us Prime

Why is it always Optimus Prime that's the sellout here? First with Pepsi, now with Toys "R" Us.

Cause it has giraffe pattern legs!!!!!

Longrack Prime

Longrack Major!

A bit late but from amiami

http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail ... agecnt%3D1

Grimlock and Sideswipe are pretty standard, but that Prime is delightfully offbeat. Too bad there's no chance in hell of me managing to get one.

Nemesis Primal wrote:Grimlock and Sideswipe are pretty standard, but that Prime is delightfully offbeat. Too bad there's no chance in hell of me managing to get one.

Is it because he's sold out at all your preferred online stores?

fenrir72 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

bvzxa wrote:Don't forget the Transformers Go! Optimus EX Prime we never got as well.

Oh man, and all those combiners!

The EX Prime as a robot was great. Reminds me of the current TT Shinkansen line. The dragon mode and torso mode Really for the diehard fan if you want to track them.

Why it never made the cut to the domestic market.......mystery for the ages (that or Hasbro wasn't interested).Also noticed that TFGo! combiner teams were very limited. Not even hobbysearch carried it.

Hasbro passed because there wasn't an established price point they could fit into since 2 of the 3 team members were priced differently. This comes from Vangelus at Bot Con a few years ago, he made a point to ask the Hasbro rep.

The Go Prime combiners are OK but I completely soured on them when BBTS wasn't sure they'd be getting the "fixed" version of the Jet bot and combining EX Prime was such a fiddly pain.

Less than one month to wait for the very first exclusive in house Takara mold for the Transformers Adventure toy line, TAV 21 Optimus Prime. TF Yuki has tweeted a bunch of sweet pictures which show the functionality of the trailer.

For those wondering, this is the only articulated leader class figure for the TAV and Robots in Disguise lines so far, and has clear windows, show accurate painted detail, electronics, and accessories to be used either for him or his team mates (as shown in his awesome commercial).









EDIT: Now with more images showing off the electronics and various pegs and ports!

must admit this guy's pretty cool, admittedly it might be harder to screw up an OP than any other character but as a kid i'd have loved to have this guy. As a collector, i'm skipping the whole line.

I need this figure. For the sole purpose of storing warrior class optimus in its trailer. I don't even collect RID and I'm going to buy Optimus just to store in bigger optimus' trailer. If I could store Legion Optimus in Warrior Optimus' legs I would. I would make matryoshkamus prime.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

bvzxa wrote:Don't forget the Transformers Go! Optimus EX Prime we never got as well.

Oh man, and all those combiners!

The EX Prime as a robot was great. Reminds me of the current TT Shinkansen line. The dragon mode and torso mode Really for the diehard fan if you want to track them.

Why it never made the cut to the domestic market.......mystery for the ages (that or Hasbro wasn't interested).Also noticed that TFGo! combiner teams were very limited. Not even hobbysearch carried it.

Hasbro passed because there wasn't an established price point they could fit into since 2 of the 3 team members were priced differently. This comes from Vangelus at Bot Con a few years ago, he made a point to ask the Hasbro rep.

The Go Prime combiners are OK but I completely soured on them when BBTS wasn't sure they'd be getting the "fixed" version of the Jet bot and combining EX Prime was such a fiddly pain.

So BBTS couldn't guarantee the legs? Well mech surgery can easily fix the issue thank Primus.

Btw, on TAV21, as we can see now closer, there's no way a 3rd party can add a panel to cover the legs up in robot mode without destroying the figure's aesthetic.

Shades of Star Convoy and Godginrai.

Takara trying to show up hasbro with there new prime trailer is nice in truck mode but truck still looks slanted down in front

Btw, on TAV21, as we can see now closer, there's no way a 3rd party can add a panel to cover the legs up in robot mode without destroying the figure's aesthetic.

How can you ruin the asthetic of giant boxes that don't move? Anyone could come up with flat panels that fold out from inside the legs to fill in the gaps.

Can someone point out these leg gaps? Cause I ain't seein any..

shajaki wrote:Can someone point out these leg gaps? Cause I ain't seein any..

The inside of the legs are completely open sir, where the car would sit inside while in trailer mode.

frogbat wrote:must admit this guy's pretty cool, admittedly it might be harder to screw up an OP than any other character but as a kid i'd have loved to have this guy. As a collector, i'm skipping the whole line.

Seems like Hasbro put you up to the challenge, here is their Leader OP for the line (its just a big brick upscale of the 3 step changer):

shajaki wrote:Can someone point out these leg gaps? Cause I ain't seein any..

I you look at these pics, you can see that there is no inner leg panel, you just see the empty trailer half. Kinda like the back of CW Ultra Magnus' legs but on the inner side instead.

fenrir72 wrote:Btw, on TAV21, as we can see now closer, there's no way a 3rd party can add a panel to cover the legs up in robot mode without destroying the figure's aesthetic.

Come, on, dude. Two panels that can snap in and out like plugs/covers. It's not that hard to do. As long that the 3P company don't make them pink with spikes going all over the place, the aestetic cant be ruined by something so simple and subtle. Unless OP have empty legs on the cartoon model, that is.

Oh wow. Thanks WJ... that's glaring, but meh. There's enough win to make me look past it

shajaki wrote:Oh wow. Thanks WJ... that's glaring, but meh. There's enough win to make me look past it

Yes it is very cool especially for what it can do.

this right here shows how bad hasbro is these days

Megatron Wolf wrote:this right here shows how bad hasbro is these days

Dafuk R U talking about?

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Megatron Wolf wrote:this right here shows how bad hasbro is these days

Dafuk R U talking about?

I think he means what you are getting out of this toy in comparison to what Hasbro is putting out for the line (and especially in this size class). However, I see it a bit differently. Hasbro and Takara have very different thoughts regarding these lines. Hasbro sees it as a third line, not targeted to collectors with the exception of the warrior class (they stated as such several times). Takara however, sees the TAV as collector based as any previous toyline to the point of even using it to release previously unreleased molds or new decos of older molds. They have split all the easier toys into the TED line so as not to confuse the two which are targetted at very different age groups. Obviously, as a collector I will gravitate more towards what takara is doing at TAV since they are targetting me. TED is not and neither is Hasbro's Robots in disguise line. I wouldnt say one is superior to the next, just that only one of the three show lines (RID 2015, TAV, TED) is literally for me.

MR Optimus Prime wrote:Btw, on TAV21, as we can see now closer, there's no way a 3rd party can add a panel to cover the legs up in robot mode without destroying the figure's aesthetic.

How can you ruin the asthetic of giant boxes that don't move? Anyone could come up with flat panels that fold out from inside the legs to fill in the gaps.

How are you then gonna attach them (the panels) firmly without ruining the aesthetic? Securely I mean. Adding a clip on secureely wouldadd stress marks on the mounting part. Also, adding some unuseable panels when in truck/cargo mode.

And, has anyone attempted to fill up the gaps in Godginrai legs? It also has a gap. Just saying. The gap has a purpose.

fenrir72 wrote:

MR Optimus Prime wrote:Btw, on TAV21, as we can see now closer, there's no way a 3rd party can add a panel to cover the legs up in robot mode without destroying the figure's aesthetic.

How can you ruin the asthetic of giant boxes that don't move? Anyone could come up with flat panels that fold out from inside the legs to fill in the gaps.

How are you then gonna attach them (the panels) firmly without ruining the aesthetic? Securely I mean. Adding a clip on secureely wouldadd stress marks on the mounting part. Also, adding some unuseable panels when in truck/cargo mode.

And, has anyone attempted to fill up the gaps in Godginrai legs? It also has a gap. Just saying. The gap has a purpose.

you are overthinking how the panels would work. Panels would just snap by the insides. Fisher Price's Construx did it 30-something years ago:



As for Godginrai, I have the figure and he's my favorite G1 TF ever. Yet, I never saw the gaps in the inner legs of the super bot. Why? Because they are very, very small. Plus, his posability only have 2 settings. Legs closed (no gab visible) or appart at 30° (gap hidden in shadows). Also, Ginrai's legs are VERY thick, hiding the gap even more.

You just can't compare to that Leader TAV-21 OP who have very long and thin legs, who can make ninja poses. Plus, the hollowness is much more complete than Ginrai. In Ginrai's gap, the super mode head can barely fit in. In TAV-21's gap, a whole deluxe car can fit. I don't think you can find a TF that can compare to TAV-21 in term of gaping legs, He's unique.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

MR Optimus Prime wrote:Btw, on TAV21, as we can see now closer, there's no way a 3rd party can add a panel to cover the legs up in robot mode without destroying the figure's aesthetic.

How can you ruin the asthetic of giant boxes that don't move? Anyone could come up with flat panels that fold out from inside the legs to fill in the gaps.

How are you then gonna attach them (the panels) firmly without ruining the aesthetic? Securely I mean. Adding a clip on secureely wouldadd stress marks on the mounting part. Also, adding some unuseable panels when in truck/cargo mode.

And, has anyone attempted to fill up the gaps in Godginrai legs? It also has a gap. Just saying. The gap has a purpose.

you are overthinking how the panels would work. Panels would just snap by the insides. Fisher Price's Construx did it 30-something years ago:



As for Godginrai, I have the figure and he's my favorite G1 TF ever. Yet, I never saw the gaps in the inner legs of the super bot. Why? Because they are very, very small. Plus, his posability only have 2 settings. Legs closed (no gab visible) or appart at 30° (gap hidden in shadows). Also, Ginrai's legs are VERY thick, hiding the gap even more.

You just can't compare to that Leader TAV-21 OP who have very long and thin legs, who can make ninja poses. Plus, the hollowness is much more complete than Ginrai. In Ginrai's gap, the super mode head can barely fit in. In TAV-21's gap, a whole deluxe car can fit. I don't think you can find a TF that can compare to TAV-21 in term of gaping legs, He's unique.

You do have a point with the gap. Must be a holdover from the unused Roller/head module design that was eventually dropped. And yes, the gap in GGR isn't too much of a problem as most of the time we keep his legs stuck together in super mode unless you split them. Then the gap would be noticeable.

TAV-21 is poseable, and like more x 10 poseable which also be a visually irritating if you look at his empty legs. Heck, Jetfire's inner thighs and forearms are distracting enough I grant you that.

So unless them 3rd party makers find it financially viable to release panels (that won't color conflict) and won't cause too much damage when clipping on (btw the official Die-Cast Matrix that can clip on G1 Optimus' chest cavity causes significant wear/paint (for the iPod g1 color version which had fully painted surfaces) wear if used and that's 1st party) and not cost an arm and a leg like CrazyDevy used too, I'm in. B

But still having reservations. Maybe leave good enough alone.

Another subject. If anyone of you out there has received their TAV Powerglide, if you plan on opening it, need to confirm if the "gun mode" is reflected in the instruction manual.

Mine would probably be delayed given that a local typhoon is here abouts, delayed enough already from HK though with the same departure stamp while the Japan origin stuff (Adams and UW-010) arrived much faster (go figure).

Asking because, well really. TFYuki displays PG with Superion but UW Superion manual doesn't mention the target master interaction at all.

Though we already knew it for the domestic release but still sort of a waste for TT not to advertise it in the manual.

fenrir72 wrote:But still having reservations. Maybe leave good enough alone.

Heh, you're not alone. Paying the price of a complete figure for just a few bits of plastics always make me pause. I must REALLY like the kit to indulge. I bet to make any kit attractive, they may add a G1esque gun or something. Heck, how about a transformable Roller?

Anyway, as usual, it's wait and see.