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News Credits: 372 · Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:16 am

Kurona wrote:I can't quite see from the botcon images; but do Hasbro and Takara's weirdwolves share the same face?

News Credits: 4880 · Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:20 am

I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE that Hasbro head. Its a gorgeous update and goes well with the less blocky update of the toy itself.

News Credits: 372 · Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:41 am

william-james88 wrote:I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE that Hasbro head. Its a gorgeous update and goes well with the less blocky update of the toy itself.

That's a lot of love for a 3rd tier character.

They both look good to me, I picked the one closer to the cartoon and easier for me to get.

I like the pic in your sig btw.

News Credits: 4880 · Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:52 am

Cyberpath wrote:
william-james88 wrote:I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE that Hasbro head. Its a gorgeous update and goes well with the less blocky update of the toy itself.

That's a lot of love for a 3rd tier character.

They both look good to me, I picked the one closer to the cartoon and easier for me to get.

I like the pic in your sig btw.

I am a toy guy, the fiction is really secondary for me (though I will always read or watch something if its good). So these guys are all toys and all on equal footing in terms of tier to me. That movie Mindwipe wasnt in the films but is one of my favourites regardless

And thanks, my sig now features my very first TF toy.

News Credits: 462 · Mon Jul 04, 2016 12:54 pm

Cyberpath wrote:
Kurona wrote:I can't quite see from the botcon images; but do Hasbro and Takara's weirdwolves share the same face?

What's interesting about the three normal 1987 Decepticon Headmasters, and which can be seen in this comparison image, is that, unlike the Autobot Headmasters, the three normal 1987 Decepticon Headmasters used essentially the same base animation models for their depictions in both The Rebirth and The Headmasters, with any differences in their designs between the two cartoons being only rudimentary ones inherent of each being animated by a different studio (AKOM vs Toei).

So for Takara Skull, Weirdwolf, and the eventual Wipe, the heads those three have are not only Headmasters cartoon-accurate but Rebirth cartoon-accurate as well. 8-)

Mon Jul 04, 2016 1:05 pm

I prefer the :HASBRO:

one, but I want that BOT homage.

News Credits: 372 · Mon Jul 04, 2016 1:58 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Cyberpath wrote:
Kurona wrote:I can't quite see from the botcon images; but do Hasbro and Takara's weirdwolves share the same face?

What's interesting about the three normal 1987 Decepticon Headmasters, and which can be seen in this comparison image, is that, unlike the Autobot Headmasters, the three normal 1987 Decepticon Headmasters used essentially the same base animation models for their depictions in both The Rebirth and The Headmasters, with any differences in their designs between the two cartoons being only rudimentary ones inherent of each being animated by a different studio (AKOM vs Toei).

So for Takara Skull, Weirdwolf, and the eventual Wipe, the heads those three have are not only Headmasters cartoon-accurate but Rebirth cartoon-accurate as well.

The fact that Takara didn't give Apeface cartoon-colours suggests to me that perhaps they are working on proper toys for the Horrorcons (like with Groove and Blast Off.) If true, they should be mostly Rebirth/Headmasters accurate, too. (With some differences in the decos.)

Apeface thing.jpg

Apeface jet.jpg

News Credits: 2 · Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:17 pm

If they did voyager class horrorcons (since the voyagers are all triple changers anyway) I'd be all over them!

News Credits: 3 · Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:54 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Cyberpath wrote:
william-james88 wrote:I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE that Hasbro head. Its a gorgeous update and goes well with the less blocky update of the toy itself.

That's a lot of love for a 3rd tier character.

They both look good to me, I picked the one closer to the cartoon and easier for me to get.

I like the pic in your sig btw.

I am a toy guy, the fiction is really secondary for me (though I will always read or watch something if its good). So these guys are all toys and all on equal footing in terms of tier to me. That movie Mindwipe wasnt in the films but is one of my favourites regardless

And thanks, my sig now features my very first TF toy.

I agree with you. I always enjoy the toy and comics deco personally. I'll gladly take Jazz with door wings, Prowl with shoulder cannons and even megatron with a grey helmet any day over cartoon accuracy. Still need time with Optimis having yellow eyes though.

News Credits: 4880 · Mon Jul 04, 2016 3:05 pm

Randomhero wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Cyberpath wrote:
william-james88 wrote:I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE that Hasbro head. Its a gorgeous update and goes well with the less blocky update of the toy itself.

That's a lot of love for a 3rd tier character.

They both look good to me, I picked the one closer to the cartoon and easier for me to get.

I like the pic in your sig btw.

I am a toy guy, the fiction is really secondary for me (though I will always read or watch something if its good). So these guys are all toys and all on equal footing in terms of tier to me. That movie Mindwipe wasnt in the films but is one of my favourites regardless

And thanks, my sig now features my very first TF toy.

I agree with you. I always enjoy the toy and comics deco personally. I'll gladly take Jazz with door wings, Prowl with shoulder cannons and even megatron with a grey helmet any day over cartoon accuracy. Still need time with Optimis having yellow eyes though.

Thats cool, but what I meant was not the same thing. I didnt mean I preferred a toy to reference a toy's deco, I jut meant that I dont care what it references as long as its a cool toy. For istance Weirdwolf's Hasbro head doesnt look like his G1 toy, it looks different from anything else. And I dont judge it based on its reference, I judge it based on whether or not I think it looks good. And I think it looks awesome

PS: But yeah, I do preffer Megatron to have a grey head and I do preffer a darker purple for shockwave, but thats just because I think it looks better, didnt matter where that initially came from.

News Credits: 65 · Mon Jul 04, 2016 3:26 pm

william-james88 wrote:I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE that Hasbro head. Its a gorgeous update and goes well with the less blocky update of the toy itself.

Take notes, Hasbro! This is how you update a design into something that looks "cool." Skullcruncher's head was a complete failure of your mission statement.

News Credits: 19 · Tue Jul 05, 2016 2:00 am

I'll only get it if I find it cheap. Not keen on either mode or either the Hasbro or Takara heads. I'll keep on waiting for a really good wolf Transformer then (Cybertron Snarl is still my fave for his excellent wolf mode and the robot would be fine if not for having the wolf head as his right hand)

News Credits: 6188 · Tue Jul 05, 2016 5:01 am

In other official image news, once more with the DO NOT COPY lettering and from TFSource, we have a look at the Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG32 Chromedome, LG33 Highbrow, and LG34 Mindwipe! The three deluxes also include the Titan Masters triple changer Legend class figures, as you can see from the images mirrored below - let us know what you think in the Energon Pub!

News Credits: 372 · Tue Jul 05, 2016 5:11 am

Yay! Been waiting for these to surface.

But sigh, more drones. Mindwipe even has the same one as Skullcruncher. Wish they ditched those, especially now that the Yen is strong.

News Credits: 6 · Tue Jul 05, 2016 7:11 am

definitely looks like the same headsculpt on Domey there. Sorry to burst a few bubbles. It's too difficult to tell with all the artefacts in there whether they changed the paint on the visor though.

That's still going to be my go to chromedome and stylor though.

All the others I'm not sure they're different enough to really justify splashing out on takara, considering my nation's current self-inflicted economic blight :BANG_HEAD:

News Credits: 3 · Tue Jul 05, 2016 8:21 am

MemphisR56 wrote:definitely looks like the same headsculpt on Domey there. Sorry to burst a few bubbles. It's too difficult to tell with all the artefacts in there whether they changed the paint on the visor though.

That's still going to be my go to chromedome and stylor though.

All the others I'm not sure they're different enough to really justify splashing out on takara, considering my nation's current self-inflicted economic blight

It's not the same it's different. The IDW/hasbro version has more smooth curves. This one has a more straight edge blocky look.

News Credits: 191 · Tue Jul 05, 2016 8:41 am

Yeah, they seem to be continuing the whole Headmasters-accurate heads thing.
Think they'll show Brainstorm in the next batch?

News Credits: 60 · Tue Jul 05, 2016 8:55 am

Hominahominahomina!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Chromedome looks like the anime. Same with the rest. So would Brainstorm then sport a mouth instead of a face guard?

News Credits: 3 · Tue Jul 05, 2016 9:09 am

fenrir72 wrote:Hominahominahomina!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Chromedome looks like the anime. Same with the rest. So would Brainstorm then sport a mouth instead of a face guard?

I think that's a given that Brainstorm will have a mouth. It's hard to believe they'd alter everyone except him.

News Credits: 4880 · Tue Jul 05, 2016 9:25 am

IF they release Brainstorm. That is still far from a guarantee. There is a ton of Hasbro exclusive tooling and redecos Takara hasnt released lately like the Plainum DInobots with new G1 heads, the reissue of Perceptor with new accessories, legends Groove and I dont think they will release Hasbro's version of CW Strafe. I am holding no hope until I see it.

News Credits: 13 · Tue Jul 05, 2016 9:33 am

william-james88 wrote:legends groove.

News Credits: 4880 · Tue Jul 05, 2016 9:37 am

steals_your_goats wrote:
william-james88 wrote:legends groove.

william-james88 wrote:There is a ton of Hasbro exclusive tooling and redecos Takara hasnt released

That aint the Groove bro, sure as hell aint his deco.

News Credits: 3 · Tue Jul 05, 2016 9:43 am

william-james88 wrote:IF they release Brainstorm. That is still far from a guarantee. There is a ton of Hasbro exclusive tooling and redecos Takara hasnt released lately like the Plainum DInobots with new G1 heads, the reissue of Perceptor with new accessories, legends Groove and I dont think they will release Hasbro's version of CW Strafe. I am holding no hope until I see it.

I think they will. It's true they've yet to release certain retools and remolds but this is is headmasters. That was their series and they're going out of their way to make new heads for these guys. It's just a matter of time. My first thought was "God they'll mall make it an online or mall exclusive like deadlock or some of the combiners"

It's surprising it took them 2 1/3 years to do release skids and it wasn't even a toy deco it was straight MTMTE. Still waiting and hoping for Jhiaxus. Takara is picky when it comes to doing characters.

News Credits: 13 · Tue Jul 05, 2016 9:43 am

william-james88 wrote:
steals_your_goats wrote:
william-james88 wrote:legends groove.

william-james88 wrote:There is a ton of Hasbro exclusive tooling and redecos Takara hasnt released

That aint the Groove bro, sure as hell aint his deco.

But they still released the mold. That example doesn't exactly hold up to the other examples you mentioned since it was released in a way.

News Credits: 4880 · Tue Jul 05, 2016 9:53 am

steals_your_goats wrote:
But they still released the mold. That example doesn't exactly hold up to the other examples you mentioned since it was released in a way.

But by the logic you present, that means they could release brainstorm as another character with a different colour. Takara not releasing the Groove legends deco is a hint that they dont like releasing the same character in the legends line and they already released a Legends Brainstorm. So my example is very apt. So going by what you have stated, if Takara releases the Brainstorm retool then it would be as a different character.