The Energon Pub

[Sigma Magnus]

Have they given up on packaging Titan Masters with Legends figures, then? Or are there just so many different Titan Masters compared to Legends figures that they were left over with a few after pairing up every Legends mold with a Titan Master?

Its the second reason.

Actually it makes me wonder why Brawn is included, as he's the only non-repeat in the set. Is his pretool already lined up?

Well, it wouldn't make sense for him to be just a head in the main line. Putting him in this convention exclusive allows him to see some form of release in Japan while also allowing his Legends class mold to potentially get released in the main line.

Why wouldn't it make sense?

Because everything needs an explanation in-story.

[Kurona]

Have they given up on packaging Titan Masters with Legends figures, then? Or are there just so many different Titan Masters compared to Legends figures that they were left over with a few after pairing up every Legends mold with a Titan Master?

Its the second reason.

Actually it makes me wonder why Brawn is included, as he's the only non-repeat in the set. Is his pretool already lined up?

Well, it wouldn't make sense for him to be just a head in the main line. Putting him in this convention exclusive allows him to see some form of release in Japan while also allowing his Legends class mold to potentially get released in the main line.

Why wouldn't it make sense?

Because everything needs an explanation in-story.

They can just put out any excuse plot. If they wanted to put them in the main line, they wouldn't let "oh well this doesn't make sense with the story" stop them when they have things like Megatron as a headmaster with a Galvatron transtector.

[Sabrblade]

Have they given up on packaging Titan Masters with Legends figures, then? Or are there just so many different Titan Masters compared to Legends figures that they were left over with a few after pairing up every Legends mold with a Titan Master?

Its the second reason.

Actually it makes me wonder why Brawn is included, as he's the only non-repeat in the set. Is his pretool already lined up?

Well, it wouldn't make sense for him to be just a head in the main line. Putting him in this convention exclusive allows him to see some form of release in Japan while also allowing his Legends class mold to potentially get released in the main line.

Why wouldn't it make sense?

Because every body-less head that Takara has included with a Legends class mold in the main line thus far has had precedence for being just a head. Cancer, Shūta, Bullhorn, Apeface, and Nightbeat are all pre-established Headmasters with no need to explain how they're just heads, as being "just heads" is a part of who and what they are (especially in Japan's take on Headmasters being heads piloting lifeless bodies rather than bodies who decapitate themselves). Brawn, Grimlock, and Flywheels, however, don't fall into that same preset category.

[Kurona]

Have they given up on packaging Titan Masters with Legends figures, then? Or are there just so many different Titan Masters compared to Legends figures that they were left over with a few after pairing up every Legends mold with a Titan Master?

Its the second reason.

Actually it makes me wonder why Brawn is included, as he's the only non-repeat in the set. Is his pretool already lined up?

Well, it wouldn't make sense for him to be just a head in the main line. Putting him in this convention exclusive allows him to see some form of release in Japan while also allowing his Legends class mold to potentially get released in the main line.

Why wouldn't it make sense?

Because every body-less head that Takara has included with a Legends class mold in the main line thus far has had precedence for being just a head. Cancer, Shūta, Bullhorn, Apeface, and Nightbeat are all pre-established Headmasters with no need to explain how they're just heads, as being "just heads" is a part of who and what they are (especially in Japan's take on Headmasters being heads piloting lifeless bodies rather than bodies who decapitate themselves). Brawn, Grimlock, and Flywheels, however, don't fall into that same preset category.

Is there anything that necessitates that? It's just been a trend because the first line of Titan Masters happened to fit into that category. There's no reason they couldn't break that trend like in the US if they wanted to.
Plus, saying that they didn't warrant an explanation has one little contradiction -- Nightbeat. He's a new character for Japanese-speaking audiences and his comic had an explanation of who (or rather, what) he was in this.

[Sabrblade]

Is there anything that necessitates that? It's just been a trend because the first line of Titan Masters happened to fit into that category. There's no reason they couldn't break that trend like in the US if they wanted to.

Keeping the confusing ones out of the main line avoids the confusion of "Wait, why is Grimlock just a head now?" and makes it so a new explanation doesn't need to be given for the main line (especially for someone like Grimlock who is supposed to stay whole, head and body, in future-setting JG1 fiction).

Plus, saying that they didn't warrant an explanation has one little contradiction -- Nightbeat. He's a new character for Japanese-speaking audiences and his comic had an explanation of who (or rather, what) he was in this.

Considering how lore-rich a lot of the Legends line stuff has been, I feel confident in thinking that the line's intended Japanese audience of hardcore fans is at least aware of the American character origins for the Headmaster Juniors' original toy molds (as in, that Minerva's toy was originally Nightbeat), with possibly at least a rudimentary understanding of those characters (like, that Nightbeat is a detective).

[fenrir72]

Why Hasbro? Why?????????????!!!!!!!!!!

Takara really knows how to give good head......masters!

[Ultra Markus]

how about hasbro release all the takara legends headmaster only counterparts in a multipack too

[Cyberpath]

Cool, but not $30 cool.

[Carnivius_Prime]

Wish I could buy a seperate Legends Blurr head to replace mine that got a bit ruined.

[fenrir72]

Wish I could buy a seperate Legends Blurr head to replace mine that got a bit ruined.

Wha' happened?

[Carnivius_Prime]

Wish I could buy a seperate Legends Blurr head to replace mine that got a bit ruined.

Wha' happened?

quoted from tips and tricks thread

I need help.

I was trying to finally fix the super loose antenna on my Titans Legends Blurr (cos even a slight breeze would make it slide back down into his head ruining his look) and so I tried my usual superglue trick which was going fine and I was pulling and pushing the piece so it wouldn't get stuck. Then the phone range and I managed to answer it and kept pulling/pushing Blurr's antenna but it was a very stressful phone call about my health issues and at some point I subconciously put Blurr down and put full attention into the phone call and when it was over... I picked up Blurr and his antenna is now stuck half way. :/ How can I fix this? I've tried pulling at it with pliers, using a scalpel on the inside where the strut of the antenna meets the inside of his head. I tried unscrewing the front piece to gain access to the inside of the head but not even my small screwdrivers were able to loosen the screw at all.

So gutted as I love this figure.

[fenrir72]

Wish I could buy a seperate Legends Blurr head to replace mine that got a bit ruined.

Wha' happened?

quoted from tips and tricks thread

I need help.

I was trying to finally fix the super loose antenna on my Titans Legends Blurr (cos even a slight breeze would make it slide back down into his head ruining his look) and so I tried my usual superglue trick which was going fine and I was pulling and pushing the piece so it wouldn't get stuck. Then the phone range and I managed to answer it and kept pulling/pushing Blurr's antenna but it was a very stressful phone call about my health issues and at some point I subconciously put Blurr down and put full attention into the phone call and when it was over... I picked up Blurr and his antenna is now stuck half way. :/ How can I fix this? I've tried pulling at it with pliers, using a scalpel on the inside where the strut of the antenna meets the inside of his head. I tried unscrewing the front piece to gain access to the inside of the head but not even my small screwdrivers were able to loosen the screw at all.

So gutted as I love this figure.

I know the feeling! Next time just use "wipe and shine" using the fix I suggested (use a pipette). It adds resistance without the permanent damage of super glue.

[Carnivius_Prime]

I know the feeling! Next time just use "wipe and shine" using the fix I suggested (use a pipette). It adds resistance without the permanent damage of super glue.[/quote]


yeah. It don't look too bad from a distance but you can see in this pic it's stuck halfway and looks a bit chewed and some paint come off the top of Blurr's head from trying to prise it out. Still a great looking figure but just slightly damaged (but greatly dropped in resale value if I was to resell it).

[william-james88]

Cool, but not $30 cool.

And that's only if you live in Japan and have access to a satellite store. Most of us here don't and so we can all get ready to pay upwards of 60$-$70 at BBTS or eBay.

Just like the last satellite exclusive http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail

[Sabrblade]

Cool, but not $30 cool.

And that's only if you live in Japan and have access to a satellite store. Most of us here don't and so we can all get ready to pay upwards of 60$ at BBTS or eBay.

And it's not like we can't already get these six headsculpts in the Hasbro markets anyway.

[Kurona]

Ironically, this is the opposite of what I wanted - I wanted a Takara Hardhead... head that matched Hasbro's colours

[fenrir72]

Skipping RobotKingdom and hopefully my new "agent" can get me those heads at a more affordable price.

Cool, but not $30 cool.

And that's only if you live in Japan and have access to a satellite store. Most of us here don't and so we can all get ready to pay upwards of 60$ at BBTS or eBay.

And it's not like we can't already get these six headsculpts in the Hasbro markets anyway.

But them Takara versions have more paint details.

[Carnivius_Prime]

Exclusives are lame. Often feels like trying to get more money out of the fans for lesser product and us mere mortals are forever denied a full collection (made even worse when it's like the one member out of a team you already have all the other members of, or the only figure of your fave ever character or only one of a high quality). bleh

Ironically, this is the opposite of what I wanted - I wanted a Takara Hardhead... head that matched Hasbro's colours

Heh I would have liked Takara's Hardhead body with Hasbro's head.

[fenrir72]

Exclusives are lame. Often feels like trying to get more money out of the fans for lesser product and us mere mortals are forever denied a full collection (made even worse when it's like the one member out of a team you already have all the other members of, or the only figure of your fave ever character or only one of a high quality). bleh

Ironically, this is the opposite of what I wanted - I wanted a Takara Hardhead... head that matched Hasbro's colours

Heh I would have liked Takara's Hardhead body with Hasbro's head.

Just like what Takara did with UW Defensor among others. But then again, it's not just Takara as the entire hobby scene in Japan is so waaaaaaay out there. How nice it would be to actually live in Japan (and have mucho dinero at the same time)

[Relic0037]

This will give you another option if you have Chromedome, Hardheaded, & Brainstorm's Takara releases & are looking for a figure to put inside the extra weapons they come with.

[william-james88]

Exclusives are lame. Often feels like trying to get more money out of the fans for lesser product and us mere mortals are forever denied a full collection (made even worse when it's like the one member out of a team you already have all the other members of, or the only figure of your fave ever character or only one of a high quality). bleh

Ironically, this is the opposite of what I wanted - I wanted a Takara Hardhead... head that matched Hasbro's colours

Heh I would have liked Takara's Hardhead body with Hasbro's head.

Just like what Takara did with UW Defensor among others. But then again, it's not just Takara as the entire hobby scene in Japan is so waaaaaaay out there. How nice it would be to actually live in Japan (and have mucho dinero at the same time)

But then you would lose out on the ton of Hasbro exclusives. Just looking at Titans return, you wouldnt get Buzzsaw, Rumble, Stripes along with all the different coloured Titan masters. You would never get the small apeface vehicle coloured as Apeface. You still couldnt get crosscut or Offroad, or any of the G2 CW sets and never get victorion.

And forget about ever seeing toys in stores, most Japanese collectors have given up and just collect by preordering off amazon japan.

And Carnivourus, I dont think its that much money, its only $30 in japan, sounds reasonable, at $5 a head, no? After that the price us westerners will pay doesnt go to Takara at all, it just goes to all the middlemen. Like no joke, BBTS will have to actually buy these at full price in japan, have them shipped to the US and then charge higher to make a profit off them, like they do with the other special campaign figures like that giraffe TRU Prime. Exclusives truly suck because of their lack of being accessible but not the price. Them being inaccessible to us means that we have to pay someone to get it for us, hence why the price goes up, but no one is really making any money off that in and of itself. If it was distributed locally wherever you are, it would only cost $30.

[Carnivius_Prime]

And Carnivourus, I dont think its that much money, its only $30 in japan, sounds reasonable, at $5 a head, no? After that the price us westerners will pay doesnt go to Takara at all, it just goes to all the middlemen. Like no joke, BBTS will have to actually buy these at full price in japan, have them shipped to the US and then charge higher to make a profit off them, like they do with the other special campaign figures like that giraffe TRU Prime. Exclusives truly suck because of their lack of being accessible but not the price. Them being inaccessible to us means that we have to pay someone to get it for us, hence why the price goes up, but no one is really making any money off that in and of itself. If it was distributed locally wherever you are, it would only cost $30.

Still gotta buy the whole pack even if you just want one head though.
But still not as bad as ME WANTING SCROUNGE BUT NO WAY BUYING THAT COMPUTRON PACK... even saw it in Forbidden Planet in Cambridge the other day. £124.99 when all I want is the little yellow guy who shouldn't cost any more than a tenner...

[william-james88]

Still gotta buy the whole pack even if you just want one head though.
But still not as bad as ME WANTING SCROUNGE BUT NO WAY BUYING THAT COMPUTRON PACK... even saw it in Forbidden Planet in Cambridge the other day. £124.99 when all I want is the little yellow guy who shouldn't cost any more than a tenner...

I get that part, for sure. But Takara has been doing it a lot with these new toys. You get their version of crashbash with legends mindwipe but then you have to buy legends shockwave to get the head that would come with it. They have been packaging everything together in this line so this is par for the course. hence why I much preffer Hasbro's strategy for the TR line where we can all purchase whatever we want and not forced to pay more just to get something, unlike what happened with Scrounge.

[fenrir72]

Exclusives are lame. Often feels like trying to get more money out of the fans for lesser product and us mere mortals are forever denied a full collection (made even worse when it's like the one member out of a team you already have all the other members of, or the only figure of your fave ever character or only one of a high quality). bleh

Ironically, this is the opposite of what I wanted - I wanted a Takara Hardhead... head that matched Hasbro's colours

Heh I would have liked Takara's Hardhead body with Hasbro's head.

Just like what Takara did with UW Defensor among others. But then again, it's not just Takara as the entire hobby scene in Japan is so waaaaaaay out there. How nice it would be to actually live in Japan (and have mucho dinero at the same time)

But then you would lose out on the ton of Hasbro exclusives. Just looking at Titans return, you wouldnt get Buzzsaw, Rumble, Stripes along with all the different coloured Titan masters. You would never get the small apeface vehicle coloured as Apeface. You still couldnt get crosscut or Offroad, or any of the G2 CW sets and never get victorion.

And forget about ever seeing toys in stores, most Japanese collectors have given up and just collect by preordering off amazon japan.

And Carnivourus, I dont think its that much money, its only $30 in japan, sounds reasonable, at $5 a head, no? After that the price us westerners will pay doesnt go to Takara at all, it just goes to all the middlemen. Like no joke, BBTS will have to actually buy these at full price in japan, have them shipped to the US and then charge higher to make a profit off them, like they do with the other special campaign figures like that giraffe TRU Prime. Exclusives truly suck because of their lack of being accessible but not the price. Them being inaccessible to us means that we have to pay someone to get it for us, hence why the price goes up, but no one is really making any money off that in and of itself. If it was distributed locally wherever you are, it would only cost $30.

Win some lose some. Wonderfest (I'm not just on TFs btw). No shagging the Hb stuff as my recent binge purchase attests to, I was just lucky. The other Hb releases are just as rare.Even in Singapore when RID was released, I'm again speaking of Singapore back in 2002, I couldn't find a single Fire Convoy available. I had to get one in an Orchard Rd specialty shop located above an adult good shop.

Titans Devs? Zilch! Titans Metroplex? Zilch 6 shot? Zilch G2 Titans check, but that was a fluke last Christmas.

Hb's distribution just suxx! So reason why I go online, I am assured of the product availability.

Also, Akihabara? AKIHABARA!

[Deadput]

Personally besides the websites to get stuff online which is an arm and a leg here in Canada for me there is another way to get Takara exclusive figures and it only happens once a year and is the only retail way for me.


The Calgary Comic Expo where they only charge an arm if your looking for Masterpiece figures I'm not sure what they charge for normal Takara figures but I would expect that it's a bit cheaper then getting online since you don't pay for shipping..


Last year I bought a perfect loose united Autobot Axalon for only $40.00 and with all the accessories.


My point is that if you have comic conventions nearby you should look and see if they sell takara figures it's what I'm doing again this year in April.