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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Dec 23, 2014 9:05 am

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william-james88 wrote:Thanks buddy. Other question: how do you know so much?

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

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My theory: in real life, Sabrblade goes by another name... ZORDON!!!

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Dec 23, 2014 9:08 am

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william-james88 wrote:Thanks buddy. Other question: how do you know so much?

My theory: in real life, Sabrblade goes by another name... ZORDON!!!
I'M DEAD?!!! :shock:
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby megatronus » Tue Dec 23, 2014 9:11 am

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megatronus wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Thanks buddy. Other question: how do you know so much?

My theory: in real life, Sabrblade goes by another name... ZORDON!!!
I'M DEAD?!!! :shock:

Call it what you want, but you're certainly not of this Earth. ;)
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Tue Dec 23, 2014 9:12 am

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Wolfman Jake wrote:Does anyone have an idea of why TakaraTomy has skipped over Skids entirely so far?
Well, they are releasing the AOE Rollbar version (the one we got in the Platinum Edition Breakout Battle) as a TRU exclusive.

But Skids isn't the only one they've skipped. Takara's skipped a whole bunch of Generations toys that Hasbro's released.


True, but most of those skipped were repaints or retools of a mold Takara had at least put out once. I think Skids is the first time they've overlooked an entire mold altogether.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby megatronus » Tue Dec 23, 2014 9:15 am

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Sabrblade wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:Does anyone have an idea of why TakaraTomy has skipped over Skids entirely so far?
Well, they are releasing the AOE Rollbar version (the one we got in the Platinum Edition Breakout Battle) as a TRU exclusive.

But Skids isn't the only one they've skipped. Takara's skipped a whole bunch of Generations toys that Hasbro's released.


True, but most of those skipped were repaints or retools of a mold Takara had at least put out once. I think Skids is the first time they've overlooked an entire mold altogether.

We may see him down the line. It's happened before.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Dec 23, 2014 9:18 am

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Full list of every Generations figure (pre-Combiner Wars, that is) that Takara has either yet to release, yet to announce a release of, or has released as something else:

  • Junkheap
  • Sky Shadow (Black Shadow)
  • FOC Impactor
  • FOC Twintwist
  • FOC Topspin
  • FOC Roadbuster
  • FOC Whirl
  • Cosmos & Payload
  • Skrapnel & Reflector
  • Acid Storm & Venin (they did release the original Starscream and Waspinator versions, but not these redecoed versions)
  • Gears & Eclipse
  • Nemesis Prime & Spinister (they did release the original Optimus and Blazemaster versions, but not these redecoed versions)
  • Cliffjumper & Suppressor (they did release the original Bumblebee and Roller versionsn but not these redecoed versions)
  • Dreadwing
  • Skids (his AOE redeco of Rollbar is getting released as a store exclusive, but not the original Skids version)
  • Goldfire (the original Bumblebee version got released as "Bumblebee Goldbug", making this version redundant)
  • Scoop (will be coming in the Adventure line as Roadblock, but no word if the it'll still look like Scoop or be something different)
  • Crosscut
  • Jhiaxus
  • Nightbeat (redecoed into Goshooter for Million Publishing, but not released as Nightbeat proper)
  • Doubledealer (was redecoed and released as Cloud Starscream, but not released as Doubledealer proper)
  • Any of the GDO retoolings (though, both Megatron and the unreleased Brawn got redecoed and released in the Cloud line)
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Dec 23, 2014 9:23 am

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william-james88 wrote:Thanks buddy. Other question: how do you know so much?

My theory: in real life, Sabrblade goes by another name... ZORDON!!!
I'M DEAD?!!! :shock:


Zordon's dead?!
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Dec 23, 2014 9:29 am

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william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
megatronus wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Thanks buddy. Other question: how do you know so much?

My theory: in real life, Sabrblade goes by another name... ZORDON!!!
I'M DEAD?!!! :shock:


Zordon's dead?!
Since 1998.


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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:23 am

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william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
megatronus wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Thanks buddy. Other question: how do you know so much?

My theory: in real life, Sabrblade goes by another name... ZORDON!!!
I'M DEAD?!!! :shock:


Zordon's dead?!
Since 1998.


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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:26 am

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william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
megatronus wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Thanks buddy. Other question: how do you know so much?

My theory: in real life, Sabrblade goes by another name... ZORDON!!!
I'M DEAD?!!! :shock:


Zordon's dead?!
Since 1998.


Late to the party, I guess?
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:32 am

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Sabrblade wrote:Late to the party, I guess?


I stopped watching power rangers in 1995 when Tommy became team leader. I might have been only seven years old, but even then I found it odd that the cast I had liked changed so much. I also thought they had changed the actor that plays Jason but it was really just a different character. I just thought I was a smartass who noticed an actor change they thought I wouldnt notice.

Jason will always be my leader!

PS: this is totally random but I always wondered why they were called power rangers, they didnt have any powers, or did they? Their suits dont give them super karate, since they seem to handle the putties just fine without them. Also, please be in the context that I am asking this from a 7 year old's point of view since I have not watched any of this since then.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:41 am

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william-james88 wrote:I stopped watching power rangers in 1995 when Tommy became team leader.
Ah yes, when Saban started milking his popularity for all it's worth, rather than trying to put any real substance into him, or any of the rangers, as a character. :P

william-james88 wrote:I might have been only seven years old, but even then I found it odd that the cast I had liked changed so much. I also thought they had changed the actor that plays Jason but it was really just a different character. I just thought I was a smartass who noticed an actor change they thought I wouldnt notice.

Jason will always be my leader!
I'm more partial to TJ, Andros, Leo, Carter, Wes, Jen, Cole, Connor, and Casey, myself.

william-james88 wrote:PS: this is totally random but I always wondered why they were called power rangers, they didnt have any powers, or did they? Their suits dont give them super karate, since they seem to handle the putties just fine without them. Also, please be in the context that I am asking this from a 7 year old's point of view since I have not watched any of this since then.
They're not powers as in "super abilities", but powers that allow them to morph into their ranger forms, perform powerful attacks, and summon/use their weapons and zords. And some of them in later series did have some ability-style powers as extras, but those were phased out after a while.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:42 am

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william-james88 wrote:PS: this is totally random but I always wondered why they were called power rangers, they didnt have any powers, or did they? Their suits dont give them super karate, since they seem to handle the putties just fine without them. Also, please be in the context that I am asking this from a 7 year old's point of view since I have not watched any of this since then.


The simplest answer I can give is: because it sounds "cool". 8)

Back to Skids being omitted: back in G1, he was omitted from the main line as well. He was only in available in a versus set with Sunstreaker (also omitted) and Buzzsaw. I can't shake the feeling that's partially the reason... :-?
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:44 am

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Back to Skids being omitted: back in G1, he was omitted from the main line as well. He was only in available in a versus set with Sunstreaker (also omitted) and Buzzsaw. I can't shake the feeling that's partially the reason... :-?
In Japan, specifically.

To avoid confusion, Skids did get released as a regular figure by Hasbro.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:47 am

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william-james88 wrote:PS: this is totally random but I always wondered why they were called power rangers, they didnt have any powers, or did they? Their suits dont give them super karate, since they seem to handle the putties just fine without them. Also, please be in the context that I am asking this from a 7 year old's point of view since I have not watched any of this since then.
They're not powers as in "super abilities", but powers that allow them to morph into their ranger forms, perform powerful attacks, and summon/use their weapons and zords. And some of them in later series did have some ability-style powers as extras, but those were phased out after a while.


They can only summon those in Ranger form? Makes sense but I never realized that. Thanks for the info.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:49 am

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william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:PS: this is totally random but I always wondered why they were called power rangers, they didnt have any powers, or did they? Their suits dont give them super karate, since they seem to handle the putties just fine without them. Also, please be in the context that I am asking this from a 7 year old's point of view since I have not watched any of this since then.
They're not powers as in "super abilities", but powers that allow them to morph into their ranger forms, perform powerful attacks, and summon/use their weapons and zords. And some of them in later series did have some ability-style powers as extras, but those were phased out after a while.


They can only summon those in Ranger form? Makes sense but I never realized that. Thanks for the info.
Most of the time, yeah. It's rare that they summoned them when unmorphed.

Sidenote: We need a new Power Rangers thread.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Dec 23, 2014 11:06 am

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Sidenote: We need a new Power Rangers thread.


But then I wont get any work done. Back to Skids, yes he of course had a hasbro release. But did the original corsscut get a release in Japan? If so, then why wouldnt this new generations crosscut? It would be nice symetry.

Other dumb question. Here we are with a Takara thread in an English website. As collectors, we clearly see the value in these toys. To me, they are all premium versions of Hasbro products (for the most part, I still get very sour over Arms Micron 27). However, do you guys think there is as big a hasbro fandom in Japan (as big as the takara fandom we have here). Of course, if they want Skids, then they will need to import him, but I have a hard time picturing them being as excited about Hasbro Tankor or Whirl when they have theirs coming in premium deco and no extra import costs raising the price of the figure.

Its a similar question video game fans have when they woner if there is a call of duty culture in Japan that's as big as the JRPG fansom in the west. Or anime fans wondering if Japan watches Cartoon network shows as much, with japanese subtitles.
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Postby Agamemnon » Tue Dec 23, 2014 11:11 am

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Did you get AM-27? He's on Amazon right now for around $65 shipped.

http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Takara-Tomy-Micron-Magnus/dp/B00HTWWSPM

Or did I miss a discussion somewhere on this....

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Dec 23, 2014 11:17 am

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Agamemnon wrote:Did you get AM-27?

Or did I miss a discussion somewhere on this....

(Man alive we need more Legends news so we stop going off on tangents...)


I did, for 20$ plus shipping on BBTS a few months ago. They were practically giving him away so I couldnt refuse (I didnt even have that mold yet). But even at that price, I regretted it. It's the worst Takara version of a Hasbro mold I have ever had.

I just mentioned it because I was talking about how takara products are more sought after and collectable here and gave an example to an exception where getting the takara version was a disadvantage. I still hope sabreblade or others have a nice reply ready for my post.
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Postby Wolfman Jake » Tue Dec 23, 2014 11:22 am

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Back to Skids being omitted: back in G1, he was omitted from the main line as well. He was only in available in a versus set with Sunstreaker (also omitted) and Buzzsaw. I can't shake the feeling that's partially the reason... :-?


That's a possibility, though Sunstreaker and Buzzsaw have been released by TakaraTomy already for their "Classics" offerings. Henkei Sunstreaker was even the first release of that mold in Japan, if I'm not mistaken. I'm not sure what the apparent aversion to Skids is. I guess they liked the mold enough for use in their Movie Advanced line, but not enough to release as the character it's intended to be.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Counterpunch » Tue Dec 23, 2014 11:32 am

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:03 pm

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william-james88 wrote:Back to Skids, yes he of course had a hasbro release. But did the original corsscut get a release in Japan?
Yes. G1 Crosscut was an e-HOBBY figure created and released in 2002. As a Takara-original figure, Hasbro never released it, with the Generations toy being Hasbro's first release of the character, which came as a surprise to many a fan.

william-james88 wrote:If so, then why wouldnt this new generations crosscut? It would be nice symetry.
One would think. But then again, Takara also skipped Generations Sky Shadow/Black Shadow, who likewise originated as a Japan-only character.

william-james88 wrote:Other dumb question. Here we are with a Takara thread in an English website. As collectors, we clearly see the value in these toys. To me, they are all premium versions of Hasbro products (for the most part, I still get very sour over Arms Micron 27). However, do you guys think there is as big a hasbro fandom in Japan (as big as the takara fandom we have here). Of course, if they want Skids, then they will need to import him, but I have a hard time picturing them being as excited about Hasbro Tankor or Whirl when they have theirs coming in premium deco and no extra import costs raising the price of the figure.
There might be an interest in Hasbro figures over in Japan, like either ones that Takara doesn't release or ones that have different enough looks from their Takara counterparts.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:49 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:There might be an interest in Hasbro figures over in Japan, like either ones that Takara doesn't release or ones that have different enough looks from their Takara counterparts.


Yeah, I bet they preferred our PRID Ultra Magnus ;)
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Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Tue Dec 23, 2014 3:13 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:There might be an interest in Hasbro figures over in Japan, like either ones that Takara doesn't release or ones that have different enough looks from their Takara counterparts.


Yeah, I bet they preferred our PRID Ultra Magnus ;)


Hasbro-only figures have been acknowledged in Japan in all kinds of official media, plus some Japanese bloggers take the plunge into Hasbro figures even if a TakaraTomy release turns up later (I know one that has already posted a pictorial of CW Optimus Prime).

In short, the Japanese aren't as exclusive to one company as one would think.
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