The Energon Pub

[fenrir72]

They be overfeeding him!

[Sabrblade]

28 Headmasters. An impressive meal.

[Cyberpath]

[william-james88]

Really odd how takara didnt go with the toon accurate darker grey for their trypticon. Looks the same as Hasbro's instead.

[Insurgent]

Really odd how takara didnt go with the toon accurate darker grey for their trypticon. Looks the same as Hasbro's instead.

Maybe it's the same as Shockwave/Galvatron colours always being a bit lighter?

[Nemesis Destron]

Does Trypt have articulated legs...I'm having trouble making that out.

[william-james88]

Really odd how takara didnt go with the toon accurate darker grey for their trypticon. Looks the same as Hasbro's instead.

Maybe it's the same as Shockwave/Galvatron colours always being a bit lighter?

But those are lighter because they are going for show accuracy. Its the reverse here.

[Sigma Magnus]

That shade of purple is show accurate?

[Sabrblade]

That shade of purple is show accurate?

Only in certain shots.

[Ultra Markus]

trypticon seems a tad shorter than metroplex

[william-james88]

That shade of purple is show accurate?

Yes. Google cartoon G1 galvatron and cyclonus and you will see shots where they are quite light. And Takara sticks to that for some reason. But trypticon was never this light on the show, at least not as far as i know.

Also, no seperate catapult shown and the only extra weapon is full tilts gun.

[Sigma Magnus]

That shade of purple is show accurate?

Only in certain shots.

...I really hope they go darker for an MP. Or give us options. Options are nice.

[Sabrblade]

trypticon seems a tad shorter than metroplex

He's 20 inches tall while Metroplex was 24 inches tall.

[Kurona]

It makes sense that he's a little shorter, assuming all Titans have the same amount of plastic and bulk. There was no way he was ever gonna be bigger, that's for sure.

[Hero Alpha]

It makes sense that he's a little shorter, assuming all Titans have the same amount of plastic and bulk. There was no way he was ever gonna be bigger, that's for sure.

Yeps I agree, nor should he be taller than Metroplex. His bulk makes up for it. I also thought if anything Takara would make him more black coloured, Sunbow accuate. Pretty Full Tilt has the gun on the Hasbro Trypti as well.

[Kurona]

Right, so, someone with both toys help me out here with this extremely pedantic point.

I've been looking at CW/Legends Ultra Magnus and Legends Ginrai for absolutely ages, trying to see if there's any piece Ginrai kept from Magnus. Even pieces as minor and unnoticeable as the thighs and hands seem to be completely new.

But the only pieces that I think they share... would be their wheels. I'm looking at them, and I think they are the same mold. Can someone with both toys confirm? This is an absolutely insane retool.

[chuckdawg1999]

Right, so, someone with both toys help me out here with this extremely pedantic point.

I've been looking at CW/Legends Ultra Magnus and Legends Ginrai for absolutely ages, trying to see if there's any piece Ginrai kept from Magnus. Even pieces as minor and unnoticeable as the thighs and hands seem to be completely new.

But the only pieces that I think they share... would be their wheels. I'm looking at them, and I think they are the same mold. Can someone with both toys confirm? This is an absolutely insane retool.

I think the circular plastic piece that is part of the cab/trailer connection is the same

[Sabrblade]

Right, so, someone with both toys help me out here with this extremely pedantic point.

I've been looking at CW/Legends Ultra Magnus and Legends Ginrai for absolutely ages, trying to see if there's any piece Ginrai kept from Magnus. Even pieces as minor and unnoticeable as the thighs and hands seem to be completely new.

But the only pieces that I think they share... would be their wheels. I'm looking at them, and I think they are the same mold. Can someone with both toys confirm? This is an absolutely insane retool.

I think the circular plastic piece that is part of the cab/trailer connection is the same

Yeah, I asked Powered Convoy about this awhile back and he confirmed that the only unchanged parts shared between Ultra Magnus and Super Ginrai are indeed just the wheels and that little circular piece. If it weren't for Powermaster Optimus Prime acting as the middleman between these two, I'd think they were completely separate molds using shared engineering (a la G2 Smokescreen and Energon Starscream) with a few shared parts (a la TR Blurr and Chromedome), instead of one being a heavy retool of another heavy retool of the other.

[Ultra Markus]

trypticon seems a tad shorter than metroplex

He's 20 inches tall while Metroplex was 24 inches tall.

thats too bad, even the g1 toy was taller than g1 metroplex and the in the cartoon they were about the same height, ah well, hes still bretty danm big

[Sabrblade]

trypticon seems a tad shorter than metroplex

He's 20 inches tall while Metroplex was 24 inches tall.

thats too bad, even the g1 toy was taller than g1 metroplex and the in the cartoon they were about the same height, ah well, hes still bretty danm big

Biggest Decepticon toy ever.

[Kurona]

trypticon seems a tad shorter than metroplex

He's 20 inches tall while Metroplex was 24 inches tall.

thats too bad, even the g1 toy was taller than g1 metroplex and the in the cartoon they were about the same height, ah well, hes still bretty danm big

Biggest Decepticon toy ever.

Until Scorponok

[Jelze Bunnycat]

trypticon seems a tad shorter than metroplex

He's 20 inches tall while Metroplex was 24 inches tall.

thats too bad, even the g1 toy was taller than g1 metroplex and the in the cartoon they were about the same height, ah well, hes still bretty danm big

Biggest Decepticon toy ever.

Stealing the title away from the Universe 2008 Unicron release, and rightfully so!

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Right, so, someone with both toys help me out here with this extremely pedantic point.

I've been looking at CW/Legends Ultra Magnus and Legends Ginrai for absolutely ages, trying to see if there's any piece Ginrai kept from Magnus. Even pieces as minor and unnoticeable as the thighs and hands seem to be completely new.

But the only pieces that I think they share... would be their wheels. I'm looking at them, and I think they are the same mold. Can someone with both toys confirm? This is an absolutely insane retool.

I think the circular plastic piece that is part of the cab/trailer connection is the same

Yeah, I asked Powered Convoy about this awhile back and he confirmed that the only unchanged parts shared between Ultra Magnus and Super Ginrai are indeed just the wheels and that little circular piece. If it weren't for Powermaster Optimus Prime acting as the middleman between these two, I'd think they were completely separate molds using shared engineering (a la G2 Smokescreen and Energon Starscream) with a few shared parts (a la TR Blurr and Chromedome), instead of one being a heavy retool of another heavy retool of the other.

Dammit Powermaster Prime! Had to be that middleman!

[william-james88]

I'd think they were completely separate molds using shared engineering (a la G2 Smokescreen and Energon Starscream) with a few shared parts (a la TR Blurr and Chromedome), instead of one being a heavy retool of another heavy retool of the other.

I never liked that comparison to Smokescreen and Starscream, since the intention isnt there and that makes a big difference. Its more of a coincidence rather than Hasbro cheapening out by reusing a design in some way.

I think the best comparison if PMOP wasnt a middle man would be Dead End and Chromedome. They intentionally use a design from a previous line as a basis for a new toy but the new toy doesnt really share any significant parts. Or we could always go back to the main example of those one steps which share the same engineering intentionally but technically are totally different toys since they share no parts (like G1 cliffjumper and BB). I still preffer that Dead End Chromedome comparison though, it works really well in showing how Hasbro/Takara purposefully reuses a design to make a new toy.

[Overcracker]

Right, so, someone with both toys help me out here with this extremely pedantic point.

I've been looking at CW/Legends Ultra Magnus and Legends Ginrai for absolutely ages, trying to see if there's any piece Ginrai kept from Magnus. Even pieces as minor and unnoticeable as the thighs and hands seem to be completely new.

But the only pieces that I think they share... would be their wheels. I'm looking at them, and I think they are the same mold. Can someone with both toys confirm? This is an absolutely insane retool.

The shoulder flaps, and the slider the cab section attaches to are the same.

The front part of the rear of the cab section that tabs into the cab, is very similar, but has a few differences including overall shape.