The Energon Pub

[Omegatron.]

So... yeah, there doesn't seem to be much of a difference between Hasbro and Takara Perceptors at all. And despite the lack of a yellow headstripe thing, I think I prefer the minor differences on Hasbro's. Lucky me~

There is one fairly significant difference that I can see, Legends Perceptor doesn't have the toy-style tampos on the outsides of his legs that TR Perceptor has.

[Randomhero]

Heres hoping Renderform goes back to his previous success and starts making bumper and hubcap heads for Hasbro bumblebee. And while hes at it do Cliffjumper heads for Chase. Its not like there gonna do all 6 Throttlebots in different unique molds so f**k it.

It took 3 years to get the three insecticons and with TR brawn 11 years to compelete the entire 84 roster in classics form. Patience is a virtue

[Targetmaster Kup]

OMG, I have to get that Bumblebee and Perceptor now!

[william-james88]

must admit that i was confused as to what that starscream head was supposed to be. An interesting idea but a bit poorly executed i think.

Otherwise some lovely toys, but as usual I'll be sticking to the hasbro versions.

It's a repaint from Quake's Head

... dude, you're totally right! How did I miss that?!

Looks like a new mold.

It is a new mold, I have no clue how it can be seen as Quake`s head when he has that crest in the middle while Starscream's is a whole square.

Maybe I am blind but I just really do not see it in any way.

Also, while i do preffer the colours on Takara`s Slugslinger, I am just not down on paying that much for a toy when I can get the Hasbro version for 1 quater of the cost. Plus, since the G1 toy has sentimental value, I really like the tampos Hasbro gave him on his shins to replicate the G1 stickers.

[Kurona]

Heres hoping Renderform goes back to his previous success and starts making bumper and hubcap heads for Hasbro bumblebee. And while hes at it do Cliffjumper heads for Chase. Its not like there gonna do all 6 Throttlebots in different unique molds so f**k it.

Shapeways already has Cliffjumper and Hubcap heads for those molds if that's up your alley


I do agree with Will here. Slugslinger and Bumblebee are generally better versions of their Hasbro counterparts but not enough to import; and the differences on Octane and Perceptor are negligible and I think I prefer the Hasbro versions anyway. Bit of a shame the two companies didn't go for different incarnations and representations like most of the TR molds

[Kurona]

Not long after new images were reported here and here for the new Takara Legends releases Bumblebee, Slugslinger, Perceptor and Octane; fellow board member Cyberpath got to work creating comparison charts for all four characters! As you can see below, he's compared each new Takara Legends reveal to their original G1 toy, their original cartoon models, and their Hasbro counterparts in Titans Return. Check 'em all out and tell us if this helps you make a decision on which version to get!

[Kurona]

I think the most striking one is Slugslinger as it highlights just how much that bit of blue under the cockpit does for the accuracy and how much it makes him stand out. Only problem is that I ended up looking at it too long and started wondering why on Cybertron a vehicle would need two separate cockpits. Bad Kurona! Stop trying to bring logic and sense into dumb space robots!

[Evil Eye]

Slugslinger looks great,though I'm sad they kept the head the same. In any case I'm going for the Hasbro versions of the Targetmaster jets, as I already have Hasbro Triggerhappy.

Bumblebee is a straight-up improvement in every way.

Perceptor is OK I guess. Not hugely impressive but the Ramhorn vehicle is nice.

Octane looks very good, though I still can't take that jet mode seriously. But a Ghost Starscream headmaster? Awesome!

[Randomhero]

I think the most striking one is Slugslinger as it highlights just how much that bit of blue under the cockpit does for the accuracy and how much it makes him stand out. Only problem is that I ended up looking at it too long and started wondering why on Cybertron a vehicle would need two separate cockpits. Bad Kurona! Stop trying to bring logic and sense into dumb space robots!

Hey at least it's not as bad as when dreamwave literraly brought it up in the comics asking why do they have cockpits and why they are out of scale with the rest of the universe and not even answering it. It wasn't even rhetorical! Shockwave saying his grand scheme and saying this stuff and not even explaining why. And I say him explaining his scheme when he actually didn't even do that.

I'll give the Aligned continuity credit, they did explain why they all have seats and cockpits and it did make sense.

[Cyberpath]

I think the most striking one is Slugslinger as it highlights just how much that bit of blue under the cockpit does for the accuracy and how much it makes him stand out. Only problem is that I ended up looking at it too long and started wondering why on Cybertron a vehicle would need two separate cockpits. Bad Kurona! Stop trying to bring logic and sense into dumb space robots!

Well, sometimes Transformers give each other rides. He can carry more with two cockpits?

[Albatross250]

Yeah what is everyone on? That is not quakes head repainted as starscream. It's completely different

It's a straight up seeker head with vents on the side. Quakes head doesn't have vents and the top of his head makes a point. Totally not the same

But it is a retool of quake lol

[Kurona]

I think the most striking one is Slugslinger as it highlights just how much that bit of blue under the cockpit does for the accuracy and how much it makes him stand out. Only problem is that I ended up looking at it too long and started wondering why on Cybertron a vehicle would need two separate cockpits. Bad Kurona! Stop trying to bring logic and sense into dumb space robots!

Well, sometimes Transformers give each other rides. He can carry more with two cockpits?

Budget Astrotrain!

[Albatross250]

Nice Color Scheme...

WAIT A SEC...

Damn you , you made Slugslinger in Sonic Colours , i guess he'll be collecting Rings now

Gotta Go Fast

[MaverickPrime]

I think the most striking one is Slugslinger as it highlights just how much that bit of blue under the cockpit does for the accuracy and how much it makes him stand out. Only problem is that I ended up looking at it too long and started wondering why on Cybertron a vehicle would need two separate cockpits. Bad Kurona! Stop trying to bring logic and sense into dumb space robots!

Well, sometimes Transformers give each other rides. He can carry more with two cockpits?

When they do an official MP Huffer it better have a micro Hoist driver!!!
As for the figures, Bee looks better in the warmer yellow, Perceptor looks almost identical but Ramhorn looks gorgeous, I wonder if his inclussion has something to do with the Autobot Intelligence Ops 2 pack.
Slugslinger looks pretty, but I prefer Hasbro's more unique shade of blue,wish it had used a visored toy head, though.
Octane looks also very similar, but the darker colors work really well AND GHOST STARSCREAM HEADMASTER! He can literally take over others now!

[Sabrblade]

I think the most striking one is Slugslinger as it highlights just how much that bit of blue under the cockpit does for the accuracy and how much it makes him stand out. Only problem is that I ended up looking at it too long and started wondering why on Cybertron a vehicle would need two separate cockpits. Bad Kurona! Stop trying to bring logic and sense into dumb space robots!

Hey at least it's not as bad as when dreamwave literraly brought it up in the comics asking why do they have cockpits and why they are out of scale with the rest of the universe and not even answering it. It wasn't even rhetorical! Shockwave saying his grand scheme and saying this stuff and not even explaining why. And I say him explaining his scheme when he actually didn't even do that.

I'll give the Aligned continuity credit, they did explain why they all have seats and cockpits and it did make sense.

I'll say. That's like the one corner of the multiverse that actually did bother to explain the cockpits.

[Sigma Magnus]

So we've got a new-mold Cerebros face (why?) and a new-mold Ghost Starscream face (awesome!). Can anyone tell if the Headmaster bodies are new?

[Wolfman Jake]

LG56 Perceptor (with Shuffler weapon)

Shouldn't that say Ramhorn weapon?

Yes, please, update the news stories! You're not doing justice to the Legends release of Perceptor if you don't let people know that it's the Ramhorn version of the mold, decoed as Ramhorn himself, no less, and not a generic Shuffler version with different colors.

Also, Takara was pretty genius with what they did with the shoulder pylons for Octane. Flip them up and forward to mimic Starscream's intakes when using Starscream's ghost head as the Headmaster. Leave them down to look more like the Octane G1 cartoon character model. Finally, you can rotate the red sides out to homage the red circles on Octane's outer shoulders from the G1 toy! That's a lot of versatility for a single toy on top of it being a Headmaster triple changer with two different heads to use!

[Randomhero]

I think the most striking one is Slugslinger as it highlights just how much that bit of blue under the cockpit does for the accuracy and how much it makes him stand out. Only problem is that I ended up looking at it too long and started wondering why on Cybertron a vehicle would need two separate cockpits. Bad Kurona! Stop trying to bring logic and sense into dumb space robots!

Hey at least it's not as bad as when dreamwave literraly brought it up in the comics asking why do they have cockpits and why they are out of scale with the rest of the universe and not even answering it. It wasn't even rhetorical! Shockwave saying his grand scheme and saying this stuff and not even explaining why. And I say him explaining his scheme when he actually didn't even do that.

I'll give the Aligned continuity credit, they did explain why they all have seats and cockpits and it did make sense.

I'll say. That's like the one corner of the multiverse that actually did bother to explain the cockpits.

Exactly! Why? Quintessons. They're lazy. That's it.

[leokearon]

I live the Ghost of Starscream idea, just not a fan of the transparent plastic

[Sabrblade]

Looks like the Ghost Starscream head is based pretty heavily on the UW Ghost Starscream head:



Which itself was based on the head of WFC/FOC Starscream:

[Wolfman Jake]

I live the Ghost of Starscream idea, just not a fan of the transparent plastic

But, that's what makes him a g-g-g-ghooooooost!

[Evil Eye]

I know it kind of defeats the purpose of Ghost Starscream (an easy redeco that everyone wants because GHOST STARSCREAM) but I'd like a Ghost Starscream with slight retooling to him in addition to being made of clear plastic to make him look extra ghostly- a different expression, cracks and "wounds" to make him look more undead (so add some holes to his wings exposing the superstructure beneath and make his cockpit look "shattered" for example), some parts bei8ng wreathed in (removable?) sculpted ethereal flame, etc.

EDIT: A bit like this...



Obviosuly not to quite such an extent, but you get the idea.

[autobot00]

quake repaint for starscream? i dont think so.

[Sabrblade]

I know it kind of defeats the purpose of Ghost Starscream (an easy redeco that everyone wants because GHOST STARSCREAM) but I'd like a Ghost Starscream with slight retooling to him in addition to being made of clear plastic to make him look extra ghostly- a different expression, cracks and "wounds" to make him look more undead (so add some holes to his wings exposing the superstructure beneath and make his cockpit look "shattered" for example), some parts bei8ng wreathed in (removable?) sculpted ethereal flame, etc.

EDIT: A bit like this...



Obviosuly not to quite such an extent, but you get the idea.

That's more "zombie" Starscream than "ghost" Starscream.

[Evil Eye]

I know it kind of defeats the purpose of Ghost Starscream (an easy redeco that everyone wants because GHOST STARSCREAM) but I'd like a Ghost Starscream with slight retooling to him in addition to being made of clear plastic to make him look extra ghostly- a different expression, cracks and "wounds" to make him look more undead (so add some holes to his wings exposing the superstructure beneath and make his cockpit look "shattered" for example), some parts bei8ng wreathed in (removable?) sculpted ethereal flame, etc.

EDIT: A bit like this...



Obviosuly not to quite such an extent, but you get the idea.

That's more "zombie" Starscream than "ghost" Starscream.

True, though sometimes ghosts are portrayed as fairly decayed/zombie-like. It'd also potentially work for a "semi-physical" version of the Spectral Screamer, as if his physical body was only just held together through Unicron's power and Starscream's sheer bloody-mindedness. Plus, Starscream I can imagine wanting to scare the armour plating off of anyone he comes across.