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Yotsuyasan wrote:fenrir72 wrote:Lazy recolors like the uber expensive e-Hobby Orion Pax.
Oy! No you don't. He may have needed a new head, and a custom sticker sheet... but once you took care of those few minor(ish) issues, he's actually a really good G1 Orion Pax, and I quite love having him in my collection!
I won't hear another word against him!
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...in part, because if I did hear another word, and then felt compelled to reply to that word, it really would drag this thread too far off topic.
So... Erm... On that note, now back to your regularly scheduled Unite Warriors discussion! Yeah!
Burn wrote:Oh good ... more off-topic.
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:For those who are interested, Scramble core has Takara Defensor up for Pre-order for $115.
http://scramblecore.com/collections/fro ... 3-defensor
Yotsuyasan wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:For those who are interested, Scramble core has Takara Defensor up for Pre-order for $115.
http://scramblecore.com/collections/fro ... 3-defensor
That's an interesting price... If the only place it is officially available for sale is selling it for about $132.00, I wonder how that store is acquiring their stock and still able to have any profit? Seems vaguely questionable...
Still, it is a good price. It isn't a retailer I am familiar with myself. Are they reliable? Do they have good customer service? And what might someone expect to pay for shipping from them? (If the shipping ends up being something ridiculous like $40.00, I'm just as good leaving my pre-order where it is at TFSource!)
DigitalBrave3 wrote:Nice look to it, but I don't think it's necessary. Rook and the legends class Groove are perfectly fine. I probably will pick this up, but it won't replace Rook on my Defensor (once I get my Defensor anyway). Wait, I just remembered, isn't Takara selling them in gift sets? If I'm remembering that right, then if I bought this, I would have a full Defensor then wouldn't I.
Magna Prime wrote:Out of curiosity, anyone else thinking we might be seeing a couple of the Defensor molds used for this. I'm thinking specifically for Ironhide and Prowl.
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Plus, they may be saving First Aid for Ironhide's mold twin Ratchet.
MemphisR56 wrote:Considering how ridiculously fast Quickslinger and Brakeneck sold out just about everywhere, they'd have to be mad not to do the same for Groove. They'd just be denying themselves money.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:
The figure has clear plastic while none of the Hasbro molds do, suggesting it has an additional plastic sprue that the other Hasbro molds lack, making this figure a greater expense than your average Hasbro Deluxe class figure. After all, Hasbro has a standards when it comes to the budgetary limits for figures in each of their size classes, while Takara's standards aren't nearly so rigid.
Sabrblade wrote:As Powered Convoy pointed out previously, is it very likely that this Deluxe Groove mold is to be another Takara-only case like Prime War Breakdown, Jet Vehicon, Gaia Unicron, etc. were.
The figure has clear plastic while none of the Hasbro molds do, suggesting it has an additional plastic sprue that the other Hasbro molds lack, making this figure a greater expense than your average Hasbro Deluxe class figure. After all, Hasbro has a standards when it comes to the budgetary limits for figures in each of their size classes, while Takara's standards aren't nearly so rigid.
It has two guns that are based directly on the G1 Groove toy's guns, whereas the Hasbro CW Deluxe molds each have just a single weapon (aside from the foot/hand gun) that is more original in its design instead of being deliberately based on the weapons of the G1 toys.
The figure has been given special attention by TakaraTomy advertisement, which wasn't the case for either Slingshot or Wildrider since those two were treated by Takara to be just ordinary figures. But Groove here is given big focal imagery in the magazines to make him stand out as something unique and different from the other Protectobot figures.
And finally, the figure is still a gray prototype, placing its development cycle far later than any other Combiner Wars / Unite Warriors molds we've seen thus far, which strongly suggests that Takara had to make it themselves since if Hasbro was behind this plan all along, would it not have made sense for Hasbro to have initiated its development as early as the other Protectobots? After all, when both Slingshot and Wildrider were first revealed, their new heads were already done, instead of still being in the hardcopy stage like Groove is.
So as far as can be told, this Unite Warriors Groove mold is looking more and more to be a non-Hasbro product designed solely by Takara without regards to Hasbro's standards or input. And with Hasbro having already made a Legends Groove that still interacts with the Defensor combiner in some way, Hasbro very likely might feel contented enough with the Legends Groove and see the Deluxe Groove as an unnecessary redundancy.
Not to mention that they went to the trouble of making Rook as a replacement for Groove's limb status, and did so by making him inherently meant to be the new Protectobot character that he is and no one else, instead of another preexisting character first like Alpha Bravo and Offroad were.
The clear plastic on those figures was evidently budgeted into those figures, whereas the entire Deluxe class of the CW line is fully without any clear plastic. That Takara is using clear plastic on this new Groove mold and not on any other CW Deluxes suggests that more money was put into developing this one figure over all the others so that it could have that extra clear plastic sprue, which implies that it breaks the budget Hasbro established for the CW Deluxes by having one additional plastic sprue.william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:
The figure has clear plastic while none of the Hasbro molds do, suggesting it has an additional plastic sprue that the other Hasbro molds lack, making this figure a greater expense than your average Hasbro Deluxe class figure. After all, Hasbro has a standards when it comes to the budgetary limits for figures in each of their size classes, while Takara's standards aren't nearly so rigid.
This is the one point I disagree with. Dont the RID (2015) figures show that Hasbro is fine with using clear plastic in a deluxe figure?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Wolfman Jake wrote:Sabre's got some very good points about Takara's deluxe scale Groove figure likely being exclusive to their markets. The only way to be absolutely certain to get such a figure is to buy Takara's offering, because there is no guarantee Hasbro will ever sell it in their markets. If I were a fan on the fence right now, I would put in a pre-order now at any retailer that offers a "no penalties" cancelation policy, should Hasbro, through some miracle, later announce a release of the deluxe Groove mold in their markets. I've got two of the Defensor gift sets pre-ordered in my stack at TFSource. I think they still have some available. Can anyone speak for BigBadToyStore's policy on pre-order cancelations?
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
megatronus wrote:Once an item's in stock at TFsource, that's it.
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