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[tumacher]

Hi,

Here is my review in English for MP32 Beast Convoy (Optimus Primal):

Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3_QmpUQ7n0
Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qn-GXFfyiWI
Part 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qqw_v5lZp4I


I hope it is helpful for everyone.

[Va'al]

Fellow Seibertronians tumacher and optibotimus have both joined in the gorilla train, by sharing with us on the Energon Pub boards video reviews (both in English, the first in three parts) for the recently released Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-32 Beast Convoy / Optimus Primal! You can find the first part of tumacher's review embedded below, with links to the second and third to follow, and also embedded is optibotimus' version. Take a look!

Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qn-GXFfyiWI
Part 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qqw_v5lZp4I

[Burn]

Wow, that transformation is truly magical!

[Ultra Markus]

could that peg on his back be meant for a stand?

[Insurgent]

Mine from kapow arrives on tuesday. Well looking forward to it!

[dragons]

IF I remember correctly people will complaining about primal backside is same situation with generations ultra Magnus ,.

I skipped past articulation waste of my time I know movement of figure by looking it all I don't know is size of figure how does primal size compare to first master piece prime

[Ironhidensh]

Wow, that transformation is truly magical!

Well, my friend, does this mean you've changed your mind in regards to a purchase?

[primalxconvoy]

A few things to add to Optibotimus' review:

- The back tab, regardless of a possible future feature, is meant to homage the original toy, which had a similar pull-out handle, which was then used to activate the gorrila "chest thumping" action on the arms.

- The wrist guns can be extended and thus are longer.

- The clear part on the back of the robot head is simply made from the same molding that allows the head to be lit up inside. TT just got lazy and didn't paint that part.

- Although the swords ARE meant to be stored as they are shown in the video, I have found that switching the sides, then inverting them, so that they tab-in handles DOWN, gives the figure more space to move the legs/waist.

- The swords don't tab in securely into the hands. You need to put them in the hands AND close the fingers around the swords to keep them secure.

- I belive that the TT "Masterpiece" version of film Starscream/Bumblebee were the first Masterpieces to have light-up eyes. However, these were released first in the USA as non-masterpiece figures.

- In order to change robot faceplates, simply move the antennas (antennai?) back and use your nail to pull the BLUE ridge part of the top of his face. You will see an obvious gap. Do the same for both sides and the face will come off. I am a bit puzzled why a veteran reviewer, in a 30 minute video, didn't manage/bother to actually show this feature.

[Burn]

Wow, that transformation is truly magical!

Well, my friend, does this mean you've changed your mind in regards to a purchase?

Not at all. I simply do not need this figure.

[Ironhidensh]

Wow, that transformation is truly magical!

Well, my friend, does this mean you've changed your mind in regards to a purchase?

Not at all. I simply do not need this figure.

And what can I do to change your mind? [Wink wink nudge nudge ]

Seriously though, I can respect that. Thus guys imminent arrival actually has me wanting to track down a Takara Legends Beast Convoy, as I only have the Hasbro Universe version of this mold.

[Sabrblade]

could that peg on his back be meant for a stand?

I once saw a pic in which somebody used that pegs to attach Generations Rattrap in beast mode to Convoy's robot mode back.

I wonder if maybe Takara planned ahead for a MP Rattle and made that peg now to use it for attaching a MP Rattle later one.

[optibotimus]

A few things to add to Optibotimus' review:

- The back tab, regardless of a possible future feature, is meant to homage the original toy, which had a similar pull-out handle, which was then used to activate the gorrila "chest thumping" action on the arms.

- The wrist guns can be extended and thus are longer.

- The clear part on the back of the robot head is simply made from the same molding that allows the head to be lit up inside. TT just got lazy and didn't paint that part.

- Although the swords ARE meant to be stored as they are shown in the video, I have found that switching the sides, then inverting them, so that they tab-in handles DOWN, gives the figure more space to move the legs/waist.

- The swords don't tab in securely into the hands. You need to put them in the hands AND close the fingers around the swords to keep them secure.

- I belive that the TT "Masterpiece" version of film Starscream/Bumblebee were the first Masterpieces to have light-up eyes. However, these were released first in the USA as non-masterpiece figures.

- In order to change robot faceplates, simply move the antennas (antennai?) back and use your nail to pull the BLUE ridge part of the top of his face. You will see an obvious gap. Do the same for both sides and the face will come off. I am a bit puzzled why a veteran reviewer, in a 30 minute video, didn't manage/bother to actually show this feature.

#1 i don't necessarily agree that the back tab is meant to homage the original toy. They're completely different shapes and looks. The only thing i would say that they have in common, is i believe the tag on his back is functional for something like the original toy was. I'm not saying you're wrong, as it's entirely possible that is the intent Takara had. But to say it "is meant to homage the original toy" as if it's a certainty, is a bit of a stretch.

#2 You are correct about the guns extending. I did an update video in which i show that feature and also the tab section which makes pulling the guns out of his wrists much easier.

#3 Again, they might not have painted it because they were lazy. But to say they did that definitively, is a bit of a stretch. We don't know for certain.

#4 Swapping the blades around as you suggested does give a little bit more range of backward motion for the legs, but as you indicated, the proper arrangement is how i showed it per the instructions.

#5 My swords tabbed in fairly securely with just the slot and tabs. Putting the fingers around the handle helps the stability but they can hold in his hand fine without the fingers gripping it.

#6 I don't consider the Movie Starscream and Bumblebee to be Masterpiece figures. I suppose you could, but i don't.

#7 There is no puzzle to why i didn't show the face swapping. I struggled with it for a good minute and a half to two minutes. So while and during post production, decided it wasn't necessary as i verbally expressed what you needed to do and i cut the extra time out of the final video.

Either way, thank you for watching the whole video and your critiques. Hopefully you found my replies just as useful.

[optibotimus]

could that peg on his back be meant for a stand?

I once saw a pic in which somebody used that pegs to attach Generations Rattrap in beast mode to Convoy's robot mode back.

I wonder if maybe Takara planned ahead for a MP Rattle and made that peg now to use it for attaching a MP Rattle later one.

I don't think that has anything to do with it. You could have Bumblebee hold onto that peg if you wanted lol. It does work with Rattrap, but the pictures i saw, have you having to detach the side panels, rotate his arms around at the elbow then peg it into the back. You don't have to do all that if you still want to use the hands to hold the peg, but you have more surface area by rotating the hand around and it's more of a secure connection. Which is why i think the person did it for the pictures that i at least saw. You can however do all that without detaching the side panel or rotating the arms around. Remove his binoculars or bombs (i forgot what they are) and the round holes that were there, can tab into the back of Primal easily.

I show it here in my update video i made
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxVeD5EInS0

[william-james88]

[Ravage XK]

Mine from kapow arrives on tuesday. Well looking forward to it!

Got mine from sitting on my desk, from Kapow.

The fur effect looks great.

[Bronzewolf]

Just a little while ago, we reported on some English-language video reviews for one of the most anticipated figures of the year, MP-32, Beast Convoy (also known as Optimus Primal), the first of the Masterpiece Beast Wars figured. Well today, Seibertron is pleased to bring you a pictoral review, courtesy of Chinese site Toy People.

The photos (some of which have been mirrored below for you) show not only some of the great functionality of the figure, such as the weapon storage and changable faces, but also how it scales with the other Maximals, including it's original toy, as well as poseability in robot and Ape mode.

Check out some of the photos below, and click on any of them to find the full gallery!

[Bronzewolf]

Also:

[D-Maximal_Primal]

This is such a gorgeous looking Primal

[Railbomb]

It's a shame that he cost so much for how big he is, though I'm still going to get him. Hopefully we'll get a BW Megs announcement soon!

[Overcracker]

Mine has arrived in the country finally, and is going through customs.


As for price that's going to depend on where you buy it. I paid $86 bucks plus $23 shipping. All in all less than the $119.99 that BBTS and TFSource are asking for it before shipping.

$86 is not really bad for this type of figure.

119 on the other hand is a bit steep.

Not sure it will linger as Tracks has, and get knocked down to $40 bucks any time soon, but it may be put on sale if they don't sell all that well.

[ReinaHW]

Mine arrived this afternoon, UK time, excellent figure.

http://reinahw.deviantart.com/art/Primal-Time-643393206

[william-james88]

Mine has arrived in the country finally, and is going through customs.


As for price that's going to depend on where you buy it. I paid $86 bucks plus $23 shipping. All in all less than the $119.99 that BBTS and TFSource are asking for it before shipping.

$86 is not really bad for this type of figure.

119 on the other hand is a bit steep.

Not sure it will linger as Tracks has, and get knocked down to $40 bucks any time soon, but it may be put on sale if they don't sell all that well.

Leaders sell very well. I dont foresee him going the way of Tracks, which only happened to Tracks (and roadrage).

I used Anime Export and my Primal was $81 + $13 shipping making it a total of $94. Keeping score, that is at least 20% less than US retailers, and thats before you include the extra shipping cost.

20-30$ here and there adds up over time and helps me buy more

[Overcracker]

Leaders sell very well. I dont foresee him going the way of Tracks, which only happened to Tracks (and roadrage).

I used Anime Export and my Primal was $81 + $13 shipping making it a total of $94. Keeping score, that is at least 20% less than US retailers, and thats before you include the extra shipping cost.

20-30$ here and there adds up over time and helps me buy more

Leaders do sell well, but surprisingly, love for Beastwars is not as abundant as G1, and considering even MP Ultra Magnus is still hanging around U.S. online retailers, I'm not sure how fast Primal is going to sell out.

I hope he sells well enough for Takara to at least gives an MP Megatron.

The generation that grew up with BW, unfortunately seems to be less nostalgic than G1-ers are for G1.

[Insurgent]

The generation that grew up with BW, unfortunately seems to be less nostalgic than G1-ers are for G1.

No, we just tend to get drowned out by all the G1 lovers. As does pretty much the entire rest of the franchise.

[Sabrblade]

The generation that grew up with BW, unfortunately seems to be less nostalgic than G1-ers are for G1.

No, we just tend to get drowned out by all the G1 lovers. As does pretty much the entire rest of the franchise.

Yeah, the people who grew up on G1 had at least seven years' worth of product to get nostalgic over (with one of those years itself being preying of the nostalgia of the earliest G1 years), along with an additional three or four years of G2 riding off of G1's popularity, whereas Beast Wars only got 4 years' worth of product, with a few stragglers in 2000-2001.