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Re: TFCC 2014 Exclusives Protoform X and Trans-Mutate Images

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Re: TFCC 2014 Exclusives Protoform X and Trans-Mutate Images

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Mar 08, 2014 10:35 pm

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shajaki wrote:thinking about it now, doesnt it seem strange to call this version of her "transmutate"? she was only named that in the show cause she was so messed up.
The answer to this is simple: This isn't the Beast Wars cartoon continuity version of the character. This is Transmutate from the new Beast Wars: Uprising storyline, which is a completely different universe from that of the cartoon. Depth Charge and Protoform X are likewise part of this universe as well.

Think the G1 cartoon vs. the IDW G1 comics. ;)


Is Transmutate even called by name in the comics?
Yep. Although the comic parsed her name as "Trans-Mutate" (like the BW 10th Anniv. toy and this new toy).
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Re: TFCC 2014 Exclusives Protoform X and Trans-Mutate Images

Postby Manterax Prime » Sun Mar 09, 2014 12:33 am

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shajaki wrote:thinking about it now, doesnt it seem strange to call this version of her "transmutate"? she was only named that in the show cause she was so messed up.
The answer to this is simple: This isn't the Beast Wars cartoon continuity version of the character. This is Transmutate from the new Beast Wars: Uprising storyline, which is a completely different universe from that of the cartoon. Depth Charge and Protoform X are likewise part of this universe as well.

Think the G1 cartoon vs. the IDW G1 comics. ;)

Oh yeah! Alternate universe.
That's not an answer, it's an excuse. And at that, it's one that can only go so far until it doesn't work.
Sadly for TFCC naming the figure Tansmutate instead giving her an actual name, that excuse doesn't work.
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Re: TFCC 2014 Exclusives Protoform X and Trans-Mutate Images

Postby megatronus » Sun Mar 09, 2014 4:24 am

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shajaki wrote:thinking about it now, doesnt it seem strange to call this version of her "transmutate"? she was only named that in the show cause she was so messed up.
The answer to this is simple: This isn't the Beast Wars cartoon continuity version of the character. This is Transmutate from the new Beast Wars: Uprising storyline, which is a completely different universe from that of the cartoon. Depth Charge and Protoform X are likewise part of this universe as well.

Think the G1 cartoon vs. the IDW G1 comics. ;)

Oh yeah! Alternate universe.
That's not an answer, it's an excuse. And at that, it's one that can only go so far until it doesn't work.
Sadly for TFCC naming the figure Tansmutate instead giving her an actual name, that excuse doesn't work.

Let's be honest here. It does't work... for you. For plenty of others, it works just fine.
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Re: TFCC 2014 Exclusives Protoform X and Trans-Mutate Images

Postby Manterax Prime » Sun Mar 09, 2014 6:39 pm

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megatronus wrote:Let's be honest here. It does't work... for you. For plenty of others, it works just fine.


You say that as if it's only me who finds it rather odd. I'm sure there are others.
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Re: TFCC 2014 Exclusives Protoform X and Trans-Mutate Images

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Mar 09, 2014 6:43 pm

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If IDW can do its own new alternate version of G1 from scratch, why can't Fun Pub likewise do its own new alternate version of the Beast Era from scratch?
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Re: TFCC 2014 Exclusives Protoform X and Trans-Mutate Images

Postby megatronus » Sun Mar 09, 2014 6:44 pm

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megatronus wrote:Let's be honest here. It does't work... for you. For plenty of others, it works just fine.


You say that as if it's only me who finds it rather odd. I'm sure there are others.

I'm sure it's not just you who thinks it doesn't work, but that's just it. You shouldn't state your opinion like it's a universal truth.
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Re: TFCC 2014 Exclusives Protoform X and Trans-Mutate Images

Postby Manterax Prime » Sun Mar 09, 2014 6:51 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:If IDW can do its own new alternate version of G1 from scratch, why can't Fun Pub likewise do its own new alternate version of the Beast Era from scratch?


You're missing the point. Transmutate was called the because he/she/it was severely disfigured. If we're getting a Transmutuate that isn't disfigured, why not give her an actual name?
I'm not arguing against their alt-beast wars story at all.
I just find it odd in naming her Transmutate when that name was used for a specific reason.
It doesn't fit.
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Re: TFCC 2014 Exclusives Protoform X and Trans-Mutate Images

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Mar 09, 2014 6:58 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:If IDW can do its own new alternate version of G1 from scratch, why can't Fun Pub likewise do its own new alternate version of the Beast Era from scratch?


You're missing the point. Transmutate was called the because he/she/it was severely disfigured. If we're getting a Transmutuate that isn't disfigured, why not give her an actual name?
I'm not arguing against their alt-beast wars story at all.
I just find it odd in naming her Transmutate when that name was used for a specific reason.
It doesn't fit.
This one simply has the name for a different reason.

Whether this different reason is as equally valid as the old reason, however, is currently unknown, as that will be determined by the events that unfold within the upcoming "Alone Together" text story.
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Re: TFCC 2014 Exclusives Protoform X and Trans-Mutate Images

Postby Flashwave » Sun Mar 09, 2014 10:27 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:If IDW can do its own new alternate version of G1 from scratch, why can't Fun Pub likewise do its own new alternate version of the Beast Era from scratch?


You're missing the point. Transmutate was called the because he/she/it was severely disfigured. If we're getting a Transmutuate that isn't disfigured, why not give her an actual name?
I'm not arguing against their alt-beast wars story at all.
I just find it odd in naming her Transmutate when that name was used for a specific reason.
It doesn't fit.


Its all about character Identification. We keep calling everyone that turns into a red Trucck Optimus Prime, right? How about all the bad guys leading the Decepticons who keep getting named Megatron, the BW guy, the RiD guy, the Armada guy,
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Re: TFCC 2014 Exclusives Protoform X and Trans-Mutate Images

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Mar 09, 2014 10:46 pm

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Re: TFCC 2014 Exclusives Protoform X and Trans-Mutate Images

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Mar 10, 2014 1:47 pm

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Reminder: TFCC Membership Deadline and New In-Hand Image of Exclusive Protoform X/Rampage

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Still not a member of the official Transformers Collectors' Club? If not, why are you still reading this? Get moving! A quick reminder for everyone, if you'd like to get in on this year's exclusive figure, a retool of the Prime: First Edition Megatron into a pre-Beast Wars Protoform X/Rampage (also representative of the alternate-universe character whose origins lie in the newly-named Club universe Beast Wars: Uprising), now is not the time to dawdle! As always, the deadline is before midnight on 16 March. To get in on the shenanigans, click here!

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Re: TFCC 2014 Exclusives Protoform X and Trans-Mutate Images

Postby Manterax Prime » Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:07 pm

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Ok, from straight on, he does look nice.
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Re: TFCC 2014 Exclusives Protoform X and Trans-Mutate Images

Postby megatronus » Mon Mar 10, 2014 9:19 pm

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Re: TFCC 2014 Exclusives Protoform X and Trans-Mutate Images

Postby Mkall » Mon Mar 10, 2014 10:00 pm

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Re: TFCC 2014 Exclusives Protoform X and Trans-Mutate Images

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Mar 10, 2014 10:06 pm

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Mkall wrote:How often have the 'free' figures gotten a new headmold?
2012 Runamuck seems to be the only other one.
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Re: TFCC 2014 Exclusives Protoform X and Trans-Mutate Images

Postby Mindmaster » Mon Mar 10, 2014 10:08 pm

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Mkall wrote:How often have the 'free' figures gotten a new headmold?


Well, the first one to receive a new head was Heatwave (his combiner head, at least). Then you had Runabout/Over-run (or was it Runamuck?). Then we have Rampage. They've been at this incentive figure deal since... 2005? 2006?

So really, only three I can think of. We're not counting the other exclusives, right?
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Re: TFCC 2014 Exclusives Protoform X and Trans-Mutate Images

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Mar 10, 2014 10:12 pm

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Ah, right, forgot about Heatwave's Nexus Prime head.
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Re: TFCC 2014 Exclusives Protoform X and Trans-Mutate Images

Postby Noideaforaname » Mon Mar 10, 2014 10:31 pm

Rampage's head looks really small.
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Re: TFCC 2014 Exclusives Protoform X and Trans-Mutate Images

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Mar 10, 2014 10:38 pm

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Noideaforaname wrote:Rampage's head looks really small.
Yeah, it sits pretty high up on that neck due to the way Megatron's head original sat upon it. Megs' head had a lot of hanging parts that covered his neck area, but since Rampage's head doesn't angle that way, it sits up higher and looks proportionally off.

It also has to be small enough to fit through the peekaboo hole in jet mode, so that's another factor. A way they could have possibly remedied this was toy simply nix the horns that stick out from the sides of Rampage's head.

After all, a lot of folks are gonna be using this as a pre-BW Cartoon Protoform X instead of its intended use as Uprising Rampage, and in the cartoon, X didn't have those horns in the past:

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Re: TFCC 2014 Exclusives Protoform X and Trans-Mutate Images

Postby megatronus » Mon Mar 10, 2014 11:14 pm

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Noideaforaname wrote:Rampage's head looks really small.
Yeah, it sits pretty high up on that neck due to the way Megatron's head original sat upon it. Megs' head had a lot of hanging parts that covered his neck area, but since Rampage's head doesn't angle that way, it sits up higher and looks proportionally off.

It also has to be small enough to fit through the peekaboo hole in jet mode, so that's another factor. A way they could have possibly remedied this was toy simply nix the horns that stick out from the sides of Rampage's head.

After all, a lot of folks are gonna be using this as a pre-BW Cartoon Protoform X instead of its intended use as Uprising Rampage, and in the cartoon, X didn't have those horns in the past:

So you're proposing removing one of the more iconic visuals of Rampage, from Rampage? #-o

Besides, though the head may be slim from the side, it will probably hopefully seem a tad larger when viewed straight on.
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Re: TFCC 2014 Exclusives Protoform X and Trans-Mutate Images

Postby Flashwave » Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:47 am

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Sabrblade wrote: A way they could have possibly remedied this was toy simply nix the horns that stick out from the sides of Rampage's head.



Not meaning to sound crass, but doing that to make Nighbeat's head fit went over SOOO well...
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Noideaforaname wrote:Rampage's head looks really small.
Yeah, it sits pretty high up on that neck due to the way Megatron's head original sat upon it. Megs' head had a lot of hanging parts that covered his neck area, but since Rampage's head doesn't angle that way, it sits up higher and looks proportionally off.

It also has to be small enough to fit through the peekaboo hole in jet mode, so that's another factor. A way they could have possibly remedied this was toy simply nix the horns that stick out from the sides of Rampage's head.

After all, a lot of folks are gonna be using this as a pre-BW Cartoon Protoform X instead of its intended use as Uprising Rampage, and in the cartoon, X didn't have those horns in the past:

So you're proposing removing one of the more iconic visuals of Rampage, from Rampage? #-o
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Re: TFCC 2014 Exclusives Protoform X and Trans-Mutate Images

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:09 am

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People wanna use this toy as Protoform X, and Protoform X DOESN'T have those horns:

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Re: TFCC 2014 Exclusives Protoform X and Trans-Mutate Images

Postby Noideaforaname » Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:45 am

How many people are going to look to a split-second silhouette as the "correct" appearance over the iconic show design, though?
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Transformers Podcast: Twincast / Podcast #184 - The Search For Alpha Trion
Twincast / Podcast #184:
"The Search For Alpha Trion"
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Posted: Sunday, September 17th, 2017
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