The Energon Pub

Autobot032 wrote:

Seibertron wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:The thread's back, but some posts, including a large number of mine) are gone.

Counterpunch wrote:

alldarker wrote:

Razorclaw0000 wrote:

The Legend wrote:

Mach wrote:(...).

(...)
I wonder if this post will get deleted like the rest.

We don't do that here (delete posts we don't agree with).

Well... Someone seems to have done so... There was a news item on here yesterday about the Shadow Scythers being in stock at TFSource, with a whole thread attached to that, which ALL got deleted, perhaps under pressure from a certain sponsor (cough...TFSOURCE...cough)?

No.

That wasn't it.

I believe you, I do, but then what was it?

It was moved to the admin-only forum until I had time to handle this situation and properly respond to users making inappropriate, unfair, and unfounded statements about Seibertron.com, myself, the staff, our rules here, and our business practices. I will not tolerate a witch hunt and I will not tolerate users giving others moral and ethic lessons while discussing unlicensed 3rd party products.

I didn't make unfounded statements about you or the people who work for you. I said ifs, maybes, stuff like that. They were posed as questions, not outright finger pointing.

The only finger pointing being done was towards Curt and TFSource, because he had lied to the people and there was proof, and there still is.

I didn't go after business practices, I didn't give anyone moral or ethical lessons, so I'm not sure why my posts were among those pulled. And I hope that a lot of the reasons you pulled them were aimed at other users, because I am only angry at Curt/TFSource, not you guys.

Counterpunch wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:

Seibertron wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:The thread's back, but some posts, including a large number of mine) are gone.

Counterpunch wrote:

alldarker wrote:

Razorclaw0000 wrote:

The Legend wrote:

Mach wrote:(...).

(...)
I wonder if this post will get deleted like the rest.

We don't do that here (delete posts we don't agree with).

Well... Someone seems to have done so... There was a news item on here yesterday about the Shadow Scythers being in stock at TFSource, with a whole thread attached to that, which ALL got deleted, perhaps under pressure from a certain sponsor (cough...TFSOURCE...cough)?

No.

That wasn't it.

I believe you, I do, but then what was it?

It was moved to the admin-only forum until I had time to handle this situation and properly respond to users making inappropriate, unfair, and unfounded statements about Seibertron.com, myself, the staff, our rules here, and our business practices. I will not tolerate a witch hunt and I will not tolerate users giving others moral and ethic lessons while discussing unlicensed 3rd party products.

I didn't make unfounded statements about you or the people who work for you. I said ifs, maybes, stuff like that. They were posed as questions, not outright finger pointing.

The only finger pointing being done was towards Curt and TFSource, because he had lied to the people and there was proof, and there still is.

I didn't go after business practices, I didn't give anyone moral or ethical lessons, so I'm not sure why my posts were among those pulled. And I hope that a lot of the reasons you pulled them were aimed at other users, because I am only angry at Curt/TFSource, not you guys.

I'm saying this with all due respect, calm down and don't worry. You didn't do anything wrong and you weren't targeted.

Autobot032 wrote:I didn't make unfounded statements about you or the people who work for you. I said ifs, maybes, stuff like that. They were posed as questions, not outright finger pointing.

The only finger pointing being done was towards Curt and TFSource, because he had lied to the people and there was proof, and there still is.

I didn't go after business practices, I didn't give anyone moral or ethical lessons, so I'm not sure why my posts were among those pulled. And I hope that a lot of the reasons you pulled them were aimed at other users, because I am only angry at Curt/TFSource, not you guys.

Seibertron wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:I didn't make unfounded statements about you or the people who work for you. I said ifs, maybes, stuff like that. They were posed as questions, not outright finger pointing.

The only finger pointing being done was towards Curt and TFSource, because he had lied to the people and there was proof, and there still is.

I didn't go after business practices, I didn't give anyone moral or ethical lessons, so I'm not sure why my posts were among those pulled. And I hope that a lot of the reasons you pulled them were aimed at other users, because I am only angry at Curt/TFSource, not you guys.

* sigh *

I never said anything about you. Your posts weren't deleted. They're right here in this thread. I mentioned a couple of posts back that I merged the two related threads.

Autobot032 wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:

Seibertron wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:The thread's back, but some posts, including a large number of mine) are gone.

Counterpunch wrote:

alldarker wrote:

Razorclaw0000 wrote:

The Legend wrote:

Mach wrote:(...).

(...)
I wonder if this post will get deleted like the rest.

We don't do that here (delete posts we don't agree with).

Well... Someone seems to have done so... There was a news item on here yesterday about the Shadow Scythers being in stock at TFSource, with a whole thread attached to that, which ALL got deleted, perhaps under pressure from a certain sponsor (cough...TFSOURCE...cough)?

No.

That wasn't it.

I believe you, I do, but then what was it?

It was moved to the admin-only forum until I had time to handle this situation and properly respond to users making inappropriate, unfair, and unfounded statements about Seibertron.com, myself, the staff, our rules here, and our business practices. I will not tolerate a witch hunt and I will not tolerate users giving others moral and ethic lessons while discussing unlicensed 3rd party products.

I didn't make unfounded statements about you or the people who work for you. I said ifs, maybes, stuff like that. They were posed as questions, not outright finger pointing.

The only finger pointing being done was towards Curt and TFSource, because he had lied to the people and there was proof, and there still is.

I didn't go after business practices, I didn't give anyone moral or ethical lessons, so I'm not sure why my posts were among those pulled. And I hope that a lot of the reasons you pulled them were aimed at other users, because I am only angry at Curt/TFSource, not you guys.

I'm saying this with all due respect, calm down and don't worry. You didn't do anything wrong and you weren't targeted.

I appreciate the heads up. Thank you for that. I'm calm. I'm good.

Autobot032 wrote:There's no need to get upset.

It was already explained to me

TFsource.com wrote:The Shadow Scyther Raffle is officially complete!

There has been a lot of discussion regarding the remaining Shadow Scyther pieces that were made available through customer cancelations or being set aside initially for any defective returns. We have read the ongoing discussion and carefully taken into account all of the posts on the forums. Ultimately, we are here because of Transformers fans and we agree the best course of action is a solution that supports the best interest of the fans themselves.

We considered many options in order to come up with a solution that will please the majority of customers. Based on the popularity of one option, we have decided that the solution is a raffle with winners being randomly selected to purchase the remaining stock of Shadow Scyther for the original retail price. We feel this was the most unbiased and fair way to handle the remaining stock. Additionally we solicited input from the owners of select boards, as well as several established transformers fans and overall there was considerable support for this option.

Determining the Winners: Everyone who emailed us, or signed up for the personal assistant was included in the raffle. We used a random # generator, checked every customer history to ensure no one purchased one the first time around, and eliminated any duplicate emails to keep it fair. The winners will all be contacted by EOD today and receive the right to purchase 1 Shadow Scyther for the original retail price. If anyone declines or does not pay within the given time frame, we will go down the list to the next eligible customer.


Thanks and Best Regards,

Curt

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UltraPrimal wrote:Honestly, TFSource can **** themselves. I won't be buying anything from them anymore. Whether it be online or at a convention. Not after this bullshit.

JETFIRE XL wrote:Wow am I one of the only one who thinks TFSOURCE still rocks. When I got my Shadow Commander back in 2009 it came from the factory with a defect.The first thing I did was contact Fansproject Then I hit up TFSOURCE. TFSOURCE customer service contacted me within hours.Two days later I had the new part and have been a customer from then on. TFSOURCE probaly had a few extra Shadow Scyther to replace any defective product and rember that not everyone who preordered these paid for them so I can see them having extras left over.Long story short If people really want this stuff and it's on preorder get it don't waite. I saw the preorder for SHADOW SCYTHER when it was still in stock and passed. But when the SNOWMAN kit came up I got it exclusives allways go up and price so when you see them get them before there gone.Oh and one more thing if TFSOURCE sucks so much then why do they get the FANSPROJECT exclusives every year they must be doin something right.

JETFIRE XL wrote:Wow am I one of the only one who thinks TFSOURCE still rocks. When I got my Shadow Commander back in 2009 it came from the factory with a defect.The first thing I did was contact Fansproject Then I hit up TFSOURCE. TFSOURCE customer service contacted me within hours.Two days later I had the new part and have been a customer from then on. TFSOURCE probaly had a few extra Shadow Scyther to replace any defective product and rember that not everyone who preordered these paid for them so I can see them having extras left over.Long story short If people really want this stuff and it's on preorder get it don't waite. I saw the preorder for SHADOW SCYTHER when it was still in stock and passed. But when the SNOWMAN kit came up I got it exclusives allways go up and price so when you see them get them before there gone.Oh and one more thing if TFSOURCE sucks so much then why do they get the FANSPROJECT exclusives every year they must be doin something right.

Autobot032 wrote:

JETFIRE XL wrote:Wow am I one of the only one who thinks TFSOURCE still rocks. When I got my Shadow Commander back in 2009 it came from the factory with a defect.The first thing I did was contact Fansproject Then I hit up TFSOURCE. TFSOURCE customer service contacted me within hours.Two days later I had the new part and have been a customer from then on. TFSOURCE probaly had a few extra Shadow Scyther to replace any defective product and rember that not everyone who preordered these paid for them so I can see them having extras left over.Long story short If people really want this stuff and it's on preorder get it don't waite. I saw the preorder for SHADOW SCYTHER when it was still in stock and passed. But when the SNOWMAN kit came up I got it exclusives allways go up and price so when you see them get them before there gone.Oh and one more thing if TFSOURCE sucks so much then why do they get the FANSPROJECT exclusives every year they must be doin something right.

You're entitled to your opinion, but if you still feel this way after all the facts are out, then I have to wonder if you're not a shill for them.

They scalped their own exclusive, with joy. And tried to use guilt on the fans.

yeesh.

Ruthless Cynic wrote:I don't begrudge them from making a profit, the market is what it is, I just don't understand why Fans Project doesn't continue to produce these items. It seems to me as if it would be very lucrative for them.

bvzxa wrote:I think what it is s the fact they know if they sell it at retail, someone will buy it and then sell it for more money. This happened with the "Snowman" set back in 2009. Everyone balked at it then saw my ics posted and then they wanted it. TFsource had a few left over and raised the price to $119 from the original $49 that it was listed before they sold out. Being that the set was limited, and they sold out of their intial stock, the set had become vintage after the fact.

I never opened my shadow scyther set because I could not justify paying $500+ for henkei Wildrider or SG rodimus to complete the toy. I sold mine for $350 on ebay and left it at that.

If you don't get up on things when they are out, then you lose. TFsource has the right to raise the price once the initial stock is gone, and the fact that the consumer causes the price to go up, then I say go for it TFsource.

I have seen this so many times collecting treasure hunts within the Hot Wheels line.

Counterpunch wrote:It's not really their job to police the after market and it's certainly not their job to deter scalping by making a handsome profit.

What you're leaving out is that they had a waiting list of people who wanted to purchase those toys and that waiting list was told that they would have a chance at the unpaid items and left overs. Instead, TF Source listed those items to sell at a 365% mark up.

They were playing games with this item. They got called on it. It's just that simple. I don't think they should ever get another exclusive product from Fansproject.

Kibble wrote:Can we boycott BBTS, too? They raised the price on the Superion upgrade from $50 to $70...

I say that in jest, but to some extent, what's the diff? The preorders were all $50, but once the shipment came in all subsequent pieces were marked up to $70...presumably because they were going for over $100 on the secondary market.