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datguy86 wrote:Looking at the figure in hand, that doesn't look like lipstick to me. Her mouth is definitely open and the black appears to be the inside of her mouth. I can see her lips outside. When you get your figure in hand, check it out and let me know what you think, Sabrblade.

Having finally gotten the chance to open mine and take a look at it, I can say for absolute certainty that her mouth is definitely closed with her lips painted black.

Those two parts of her face sticking out just above and below the blackness? Yeah, those aren't her lips. Those are the parts of her face connected immediately above and below her lips. They slant outward a bit because that's how those parts of the face are shaped on a human face. Mine, yours, everyone's face is like that, when relaxed and not consciously reshaped to make it not be so. The lips are the part that goes inward, towards the seem of the mouth's opening, like on any person.

Sabrblade wrote:

datguy86 wrote:Looking at the figure in hand, that doesn't look like lipstick to me. Her mouth is definitely open and the black appears to be the inside of her mouth. I can see her lips outside. When you get your figure in hand, check it out and let me know what you think, Sabrblade.

Having finally gotten the chance to open mine and take a look at it, I can say for absolute certainty that her mouth is definitely closed with her lips painted black.

Those two parts of her face sticking out just above and below the blackness? Yeah, those aren't her lips. Those are the parts of her face connected immediately above and below her lips. They slant outward a bit because that's how those parts of the face are shaped on a human face. Mine, yours, everyone's face is like that, when relaxed and not consciously reshaped to make it not be so. The lips are the part that goes inward, towards the seem of the mouth's opening, like on any person.

I understand how a person's face is shaped; doesn't always mean it's going to be that way for a robot. I understand TFCC may have tried to replicate black lipstick and, from what I see, failed. The failure is mostly due to the depression of the mouth. It's too deep to be the lips you described. It honestly looks like her mouth is open, with the lips surrounding the open mouth. I've some pictures for reference; one of these pictures has horrible MS Paint apps. (Thankfully, I never wanted to be a beautician; only a beaut.)





Anyway, the lips appear to be around the gap - that red "lipstick" does not touch the black coloration of her mouth, yet stays within the area of the lips. I certainly see where you are coming from. I just don't agree with you. I couldn't get a decent shot of the face in the current lighting, but some of the black paint is on the upper and lower lips of my figure. It almost seems there was to be a lipstick application but someone didn't follow through correctly. Thank you for letting me know your opinion, though.

Well, take a small, but powerful flashlight and shine it over her mouth area and there is a tiny seam in the middle of the black part, which is meant to be where the lips meet at a closed mouth. An open mouth wouldn't have a seam in it (unless there's a second mouth inside the first mouth - Yo Dawg ).

TCC member Jesse Wittenrich has pointed out that her mouth is closed, so that's official word for ya.

Also, that second pic with the red looks yucky.

Sabrblade wrote:Well, take a small, but powerful flashlight and shine it over her mouth area and there is a tiny seam in the middle of the black part, which is meant to be where the lips meet at a closed mouth. An open mouth wouldn't have a seam in it (unless there's a second mouth inside the first mouth - Yo Dawg ).

TCC member Jesse Wittenrich has pointed out that her mouth is closed, so that's official word for ya.

Also, that second pic with the red looks yucky.

Crap. Now I'm afraid Slipstream's gonna assassinate via Alien mouth.

TCC staff member, right? Then that makes it fact, and in my opinion, a pretty poor paint job.

...but not as poor as my MS Paint job.

datguy86 wrote:Crap. Now I'm afraid Slipstream's gonna assassinate via Alien mouth.

Mouthception!

Or, she can go hand out with Airachnid.

Sabrblade wrote:

datguy86 wrote:Crap. Now I'm afraid Slipstream's gonna assassinate via Alien mouth.

Mouthception!

Or, she can go hand out with Airachnid.

Well, that screencap will replace the white whale in my nightmares.

Slipstream knows how to apply her lipstick like a proper robolady, not some femme-bot floozy! That's why the lips aren't as pronounced as you would think, datguy86

Wow so much unhappiness over a great figure that arrived for me today. In the beginning of the Prime line I was quick to spit on this mold but it's grown on me so that I have every single one.

I think the one thing that should have been done to make Slipstream all the more distinctive was to give her light-piping.

The only flaw with me was the fact that the rockets were attached while inside the foam. That caused (IMO) them to look all crooked and that was unpleasant.

In the end it's still a great TF.

don't worry about those missiles... you can soak them in warm water, then cold to fix the shape.

All things considered, I've really liked the figures to far as well. I think they're doing a good job filling gaps where Hasbro kinda drops the ball. Never quite sure why they miss the opportunities to do obvious — and much wanted — repaints like Magnus, Nemesis Prime (Scourge), seekers, etc.

The Transformers Collectors' Club sent out an email letting members know that a couple new items are available in the club store. One of those items happens to be Slipstream who was the 2nd figure to ship in the subscription service. She is listed at $69.00 and shipping. Get her now because she wont last long. You can view the listing here. Still on the fence? Check out our extensive Slipstream gallery.

Like the first two, Volume 3 has some gorgeous cover art and featuring a multitude of Classicsverse characters with Breakaway in the foreground. This cover is also another piece of a larger image when combined with all of the volume covers.

And, now more folks have a chance to get Slipstream.

How does FansProject produce an entirely new mold and sell it for ten dollars cheaper (like their Stunticons), while the official fan club sells a new head for ten more?

TheCrookedMan wrote:How does FansProject produce an entirely new mold and sell it for ten dollars cheaper (like their Stunticons), while the official fan club sells a new head for ten more?

Makes you wonder, because fansproject is a smaller entity and has a smaller profit margin, where as TFCC is getting the figures directly and just ships it to people. Their profit margin is much higher as they don't really have to worry about the manufacturing costs of a figure + new head, whereas FP has to worry about their own costs for production.

amd098 wrote:

TheCrookedMan wrote:How does FansProject produce an entirely new mold and sell it for ten dollars cheaper (like their Stunticons), while the official fan club sells a new head for ten more?

Makes you wonder, because fansproject is a smaller entity and has a smaller profit margin, where as TFCC is getting the figures directly and just ships it to people. Their profit margin is much higher as they don't really have to worry about the manufacturing costs of a figure + new head, whereas FP has to worry about their own costs for production.

To be fair, FansProject doesn't have to worry about:
--A regularly published magazine
--An office space with utilities, furniture , and Internet
--Employees who require regular salaries, benefits, etc
--Planning, Scheduling and Running Large Conventions
--Online Store
--A website that has be actually updated once in while.
--Other things I'm sure

In a word, Awesome!

Sabrblade wrote:In a word, Awesome!

You gotta love how the artists went for a toy accurate classics Cliffjumper with the ugly silver graphics, but drew him with a cartoon accurate head that was never on the toy. That is, unless you support the magic of third parties. Funpub is weird...

Rated X wrote:You gotta love how the artists went for a toy accurate classics Cliffjumper with the ugly silver graphics, but drew him with a cartoon accurate head that was never on the toy. That is, unless you support the magic of third parties. Funpub is weird...

He originally did have a Bumblebee head in the comic:



But then later, for some unexplained reason, he was suddenly drawn with a more Cliffjumper-esque head and without his silver bits for the remainder of his appearances.



Why? Who knows. But I'm okay with the Cliffjumper head. I think it looks better.

agreed. No Cliffjumper head on the toy was pretty inexcusable, I think. They've had the concept of minibots since 1984.

I'm so glad they're doing a better job PLANNING for repaints and retools. Some, like Grapple, Black Shadow, Sunstreaker, Wheeljack, FOC Blaster, Hoist... have been absolute knockouts. A little better planning and they have been able to milk the molds and throw fans a bone like never before. Very pleased with how they've worked these.

Did I mention Springer/Sandstorm?