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The Gate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOX6-Rw5PWc

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Critters 1 - 3, or as I like to call it, Muppets of Death. Part 4 is horrible, even by bad movie standards.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sItAt25NiY4

cemetery man

You guys have some good ones. I can add a few:Roadhouse,Alien Invasion(Starring Bruce Campbell and Grasshopper Aliens that get defeated by sticks),The Original or Canadien Fantastic Four,Battlefield Earth and finally TV classic cautionary tale "I know My First Name is Steven"(80's movie about a kidnapped boy)

I don't know if this counts, but The Crow:Wicked Prayer. I can't decide if I genuily enjoy the movie, or that its just so bad I love it. I certainly like Edward Furlong in it, but Tara Reid and David Boreanaz were just god awful. Like, beyond awful. I don't understand how Boreanaz went from being a poopy actor in Buffy/Angel and then in this, to the awesome role of Booth in Bones. It makes no sense to me

But, Wicked Prayer had some amazing lines like:

Jimmy Cuervo: She believed in you. She believed in all of you.
Harold: She believed in fairy tales. Who are you to tell me what she believed in?
Jimmy Cuervo: I'm the fairy **** godfather that's gonna save your fairy **** tails.

Jimmy Cuervo: Quoth the raven nevermore, ****!

Jimmy Cuervo: Someone owes me two lifetimes and a set of perfect blue eyes.

Luc Crash: The Apocalypse is gonna be one hell of a honeymoon!

Jimmy Cuervo: Killing is easy, forgetting is hard.

Luc Crash: How are you at wedding speeches?
Jimmy Cuervo: I'm better at eulogies.

Jimmy Cuervo: Tell me, did the blood wash off or did you have to scrub really really hard?

Name_Violation wrote:THEY LIVE with (rowdy roddy piper)

"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass. And I'm all out of bubblegum."

And yes, I did see Mega Shark vs. Giant octopus. I laughed my ass of at least 2/3 of the movie. The guy on the sub who was at the radar made the funniest faces I've ever seen in any movie.

Dune directed by David Lynch. MO it's the casting not the events the latter aspect is horribly condensed.

Good call on Dune. The worst part of the movie is Kyle Mclughlin's inner monolgue every two seconds. It got to be straight up ridiculous and ruined the movie for me

I really enjoyed Giant Shark vs. Mega Octopus.......

Way to make a guy feel left out.

Anything done by MST3K

Evil_the_Nub wrote:I liked Dragonball: Evolution, the characters and overall tone were pretty close to the anime. It did glance over a few things, but I didn't lose track of what was going on.

That's great, I thought I was the only one. Good to know there are more people who actually liked it. Shame it was such a flop, I would have liked to see them handle the Saiyans and Frieza.

You may have never heard of this one. The Last Dragon (No, not the martial arts one, which I have never seen) is an incredibly crappy movie that literally made me lose at least 37 brain cells. A kid's grandpa finds a dragon egg and it grows up with the boy (Yet the boy stays the same age, how strange). When it has fully grown, grandpa's struck by lightning (Summoned by the Black Knight) and killed. The boy's family then defends themselves from the Black Knight, and the boy is briefly visited by his grandpa in a Mufasa-esque way. The boy and the dragon (Which, by the way, is actually a man in a hideous rubber suit) kill the Black Knight. The End.

If you're wondering, I grew all my brain cells back.

While I haven't exactly seen this movie myself, I've heard of it. Anybody here hear of "My name is Bruce"?

It's a movie starring Bruce Campbell (as himself) being taken to a rural village where everyone thinks he's Ash from Army of Darkness. They try to have Bruce Campbell fight demons, and it sounds like an awfully awesome/awesomely awful movie.

Armorock wrote:While I haven't exactly seen this movie myself, I've heard of it. Anybody here hear of "My name is Bruce"?

It's a movie starring Bruce Campbell (as himself) being taken to a rural village where everyone thinks he's Ash from Army of Darkness. They try to have Bruce Campbell fight demons, and it sounds like an awfully awesome/awesomely awful movie.

Heard of it, want to see it.

Armorock wrote:While I haven't exactly seen this movie myself, I've heard of it. Anybody here hear of "My name is Bruce"?

It's a movie starring Bruce Campbell (as himself) being taken to a rural village where everyone thinks he's Ash from Army of Darkness. They try to have Bruce Campbell fight demons, and it sounds like an awfully awesome/awesomely awful movie.

I saw it on sy fy or whatever the channel calls itself these days. It is one of those awfully awesome/awesomely awful movies that only Bruce Campbell can do.

And since we're talking about Bruce Campbell...

Bubba Ho-Tep.

Shadowman wrote:

Evil_the_Nub wrote:I liked Dragonball: Evolution, the characters and overall tone were pretty close to the anime. It did glance over a few things, but I didn't lose track of what was going on.

That's great, I thought I was the only one. Good to know there are more people who actually liked it. Shame it was such a flop, I would have liked to see them handle the Saiyans and Frieza.

I liked it as well. They could have either made it semi-realistic, or chose to go with the talking animal stuff and everything, and they did good with the realism aspect with what they had. Like Bulma, the dragonballs, Piccolo, Chi-Chi, and Grandpa Gohan. Master Roshi was probably the best as far as show-accuracy. I didn't feel a lot of things were necessary though, like the mafu-bah thing they used to trap piccolo, and the ki could've been a little bit cooler. And they didn't need to describe it as "Air-bending." But the final kamehameha was cool, I liked the slow-motion stuff, and the dragonballs looked cool.

Complaints: GOKU IS A SAIYAN!!!! NOT PICCOLO'S DECIPLE THING!
THE DRAGON IS NOT A FLYING LIZARD!!!

Seriously, the dragon bombed. It was much more epic in the show, and I didn't see any reasoning behind changing him from Shenron to Shenlong, and changing his appearance. Flying lizard thing isn't anymore realistic than the original, and it's magical anyways. There's no point. I would've loved to see him take to the skies, say "It shall be done", and play the original DBZ score. That could've been a scene to remember! It makes me angry...

If the people who did the matrix did it, it would've been amazing. Remember what Neo did with the street pole? Imagine Goku with the power-pole beating Frieza's minions in sweet slow-motion. And a fight on Earth, like the final Matrix fight, but times 10 the speed, action, and explosions.

YRQRM0 wrote:If the people who did the matrix did it, it would've been amazing. Remember what Neo did with the street pole? Imagine Goku with the power-pole beating Frieza's minions in sweet slow-motion. And a fight on Earth, like the final Matrix fight, but times 10 the speed, action, and explosions.

Remember the **** they tried passing as movies called the Matrix Reloaded and the Matrix Revolutions?

Yeah, I'd choose someone else to do a Dragon Ball movie then them.

YRQRM0 wrote:like the mafu-bah thing they used to trap piccolo

That was taken directly out of the series, including Roshi attempting and failing to use it.

YRQRM0 wrote:Complaints: GOKU IS A SAIYAN!!!! NOT PICCOLO'S DECIPLE THING!

They never said Goku was his disciple, though they DID say he was working with another Saiyan during his last rampage. Goku's backstory, being dropped onto the planet to act as a sleeper agent, is, again, taken directly from the series.

YRQRM0 wrote:THE DRAGON IS NOT A FLYING LIZARD!!!

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and I didn't see any reasoning behind changing him from Shenron to Shenlong, and changing his appearance. Flying lizard thing isn't anymore realistic than the original, and it's magical anyways.

Well, a Dragon, by definition, is a flying lizard. And yes, it was always a flying lizard. (It was also much larger, but that's an acceptable change) While we're at it, "Shenron' was a mistranslation, not only was it meant to be Shenlong, (Which translates to "Spirit Dragon") but the concept of a dragon named Shenlong isn't even original to DB.

Dragonball: Evolution was a really bad movie. Master Roshi was the only good character in it (it's funny, because he was the most distant in appearence from the anime/manga).
Goku going to school? Automatic FAIL. The giant monkey was a joke. I mean, it was supposed to be giant, but it was small in the movie.

Shadowman wrote:

YRQRM0 wrote:like the mafu-bah thing they used to trap piccolo

That was taken directly out of the series, including Roshi attempting and failing to use it.

YRQRM0 wrote:Complaints: GOKU IS A SAIYAN!!!! NOT PICCOLO'S DECIPLE THING!

They never said Goku was his disciple, though they DID say he was working with another Saiyan during his last rampage. Goku's backstory, being dropped onto the planet to act as a sleeper agent, is, again, taken directly from the series.

YRQRM0 wrote:THE DRAGON IS NOT A FLYING LIZARD!!!

[...]

and I didn't see any reasoning behind changing him from Shenron to Shenlong, and changing his appearance. Flying lizard thing isn't anymore realistic than the original, and it's magical anyways.

Well, a Dragon, by definition, is a flying lizard. And yes, it was always a flying lizard. (It was also much larger, but that's an acceptable change) While we're at it, "Shenron' was a mistranslation, not only was it meant to be Shenlong, (Which translates to "Spirit Dragon") but the concept of a dragon named Shenlong isn't even original to DB.

Well, I stand corrected..I didn't know the mafu-bah whatever was from the series....I don't really remember Dragonball that much to be honest. As for Shenron though, it's not exactly the complaint of a flying lizard....it's just that's not how he looked in the show. Like I said, no reason for changing his appearance. There's no need to put sense into him being like "real" dragons, because then you're excepting that it's possible for a dragon to come out of 7 magical orbs. If that's not real, then the dragon doesn't have to be real. I don't know, I was just extremely disappointed at him, it could have been so cool.
As for Goku's backstory, he was dropped on Earth to destroy it, but not to turn into the oozaru on his 18th birthday or anything like that. Also, Piccolo shouldn't know about it either if he was of Sayain roots, unless I'm forgetting something. I'm pretty sure Piccolo never met the oozaru at all...never terrorized Earth with him or anything.

original sin wrote:

YRQRM0 wrote:If the people who did the matrix did it, it would've been amazing. Remember what Neo did with the street pole? Imagine Goku with the power-pole beating Frieza's minions in sweet slow-motion. And a fight on Earth, like the final Matrix fight, but times 10 the speed, action, and explosions.

Remember the **** they tried passing as movies called the Matrix Reloaded and the Matrix Revolutions?

Yeah, I'd choose someone else to do a Dragon Ball movie then them.

I'm talking only for the action sequences/coreography, the story would already be established and everything. I think the Matrix action sequences are some of the best ever, to apply the same style to DBZ seems perfect to me. Again, not the story, editing, music, or whatever else you might not like.

YRQRM0 wrote:As for Shenron though, it's not exactly the complaint of a flying lizard....it's just that's not how he looked in the show. Like I said, no reason for changing his appearance.

The only real difference was that he was smaller. Otherwise he was still really similar to how he looked on the show. He was the typical depiction of a Chinese-styled Dragon, long and snake-like.

YRQRM0 wrote:As for Goku's backstory, he was dropped on Earth to destroy it, but not to turn into the oozaru on his 18th birthday or anything like that. Also, Piccolo shouldn't know about it either if he was of Sayain roots, unless I'm forgetting something. I'm pretty sure Piccolo never met the oozaru at all...never terrorized Earth with him or anything.

It stands to reason that if Piccolo was at one point teamed up with a Saiyan, then he either works for Frieza (Remember, alternate continuity) or was allied with the Saiyans. It would make sense that they sent another Saiyan who would be ready to become an Oozaru shortly after Piccolo's release. (In the movie continuity, Saiyans apparently only turn at the eclipse)

YRQRM0 wrote:

original sin wrote:

YRQRM0 wrote:If the people who did the matrix did it, it would've been amazing. Remember what Neo did with the street pole? Imagine Goku with the power-pole beating Frieza's minions in sweet slow-motion. And a fight on Earth, like the final Matrix fight, but times 10 the speed, action, and explosions.

Remember the **** they tried passing as movies called the Matrix Reloaded and the Matrix Revolutions?

Yeah, I'd choose someone else to do a Dragon Ball movie then them.

I'm talking only for the action sequences/coreography, the story would already be established and everything. I think the Matrix action sequences are some of the best ever, to apply the same style to DBZ seems perfect to me. Again, not the story, editing, music, or whatever else you might not like.

Luc Besson would be so much better for DB. He can tell a good story and have kick ass action scenes. Luc Besson is superior then the Wachowski brothers in every way possible.

I'm surprised no one mentioned the Toxic Avenger movies. Talk about bad (In a good way) movies.

YRQRM0 wrote:

original sin wrote:

YRQRM0 wrote:If the people who did the matrix did it, it would've been amazing. Remember what Neo did with the street pole? Imagine Goku with the power-pole beating Frieza's minions in sweet slow-motion. And a fight on Earth, like the final Matrix fight, but times 10 the speed, action, and explosions.

Remember the **** they tried passing as movies called the Matrix Reloaded and the Matrix Revolutions?

Yeah, I'd choose someone else to do a Dragon Ball movie then them.

I'm talking only for the action sequences/coreography, the story would already be established and everything. I think the Matrix action sequences are some of the best ever, to apply the same style to DBZ seems perfect to me. Again, not the story, editing, music, or whatever else you might not like.

The first Matrix had good action that would be great in a DBZ movie, the sequels had lousy action. It went from fast punches and smashing walls to flips, wrist grabs, and an overuse of slow-mo.