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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Matrix. » Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:48 pm

bcm77 wrote:
Editor wrote:Ah, now that is interesting. Seeing I don't care to pay the high price for Doctor Who DVD's in North America, I only have picked a few selected stories I really liked, so I don't have those interviews. How exactly does he come off as a prick, as the interviews I've seen on Confidential does show he has a certain attitude regarding Doctor Who, but not to the point of him being 'prick'ish.

Anything in particular of note in how he is in those interviews? Is he comparing those to what he would have done or what?


Like some of the other new series writers he seems very dismissive of anything from the Classic era which to me comes across as arrogance,particularly as Moffatt & co haven't reached anywhere near the standard of the best Classic stories.
In some instances he's right,a show that runs for so long isn't always going to be great but to totally say "our way is best" and reject anything else just because the FX or acting wasn't that great is very disrespectful of the history of the show that's providing him with a hefty paycheque.


He shouldn't seem too dismissive- he's been a fan since a kid.
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Burn » Sun Sep 28, 2008 3:49 pm

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Yes, time for a big ol bump.

For those that might be interested, the second series of The Sarah Jane Adventures begins this Monday in the UK with the return of Brigadier Leithbridge-Stewart! :grin:
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby bcm77 » Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:12 am

Burn wrote:Yes, time for a big ol bump.

For those that might be interested, the second series of The Sarah Jane Adventures begins this Monday in the UK with the return of Brigadier Leithbridge-Stewart! :grin:


It will be very cool to see the Brigadier on screen again,he's one of the best supporting characters in Doctor Who history and it'll be nice to see him reunited with Sarah Jane.
A couple of other good things about series 2 of SJA,

The Sontarans are in one story :D
( As they were about the only thing I liked about series 4 of Doctor Who I'm very pleased about this. )

Maria's family move out in episode 1 which means we won't have to put up with her irritating Mum :D

Here's some pictures of my Classic Doctor Who figures,

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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Cheetron » Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:34 am

I wonder how long until it'll be on in the States. I really liked that show - well except for Maria's mom. And the tough black boy whose name I've forgotten thanks to a lack of reruns on Scifi.

Without BBC America's Doctor Who weekend airings, I would have forgotten all about everything Doctor Who. Sucks that it's so easily forgotten over here. But hey, at least it's still on the air. lol

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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Matrix. » Wed Oct 01, 2008 3:37 am

Burn wrote:Yes, time for a big ol bump.

For those that might be interested, the second series of The Sarah Jane Adventures begins this Monday in the UK with the return of Brigadier Leithbridge-Stewart! :grin:


Bollocks. Not in the actual Dr. Who series? A pity.

bcm77 wrote:

The Sontarans are in one story :D
( As they were about the only thing I liked about series 4 of Doctor Who I'm very pleased about this. )



Didn't like Planet of the Ood, or the Pyrovile episode? ;_:
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby bcm77 » Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:07 am

Matrix. wrote:
Burn wrote:Yes, time for a big ol bump.

For those that might be interested, the second series of The Sarah Jane Adventures begins this Monday in the UK with the return of Brigadier Leithbridge-Stewart! :grin:


Bollocks. Not in the actual Dr. Who series? A pity.

bcm77 wrote:

The Sontarans are in one story :D
( As they were about the only thing I liked about series 4 of Doctor Who I'm very pleased about this. )



Didn't like Planet of the Ood, or the Pyrovile episode? ;_:


Planet of the Ood was OK but Fires of Pompeii sucked.
After the Sontaran story I stopped watching until the final 3 episodes but from the clips I've seen of the ones I skipped and the info I read about them I didn't miss much and I may as well have not bothered with the last 3 as they were also pretty poor.
At this point I've pretty much lost any faith I had in the revived series and I won't be giving it another chance until RTD and David Tennant have gone.
Despite the majority of Who fans having their dicks out for his alleged talent I'm not convinced Steven Moffat will do any better than his predecessor and I think I'll be getting my Time Lord fix from Classic DVD's in the future.
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Mkall » Mon Oct 06, 2008 1:59 am

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Interesting article I found: Patrick Stewart may guest star on Dr Who?

The 68-year-old actor, famed for playing Captain Jean-Luc Picard, is expected to take part in the Time Lord’s adventures next year – and could become a regular character.

BBC bosses have offered Stewart a role as a rival Time Lord called the Meddling Monk.

As a big fan of Doctor Who, Stewart wants to take the part if his filming commitments allow it.

But the Beeb is so keen to have him it will save his character for the 2010 series if necessary.

Stewart got to know David Tennant – who plays the Doctor – this summer as they have both been starring in Shakespeare’s Hamlet.

The mysterious Meddling Monk was last seen in Doctor Who in the 1960s.

An insider close to the Star Trek team said yesterday: “Patrick has been formally approached to star in Doctor Who and is very keen to do it.”

Source: http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/53 ... to-Tardis/

If true, I'd love to see Stewart in Dr Who.
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Darth Bombshell » Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:16 am

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And here I was hoping the stream of fanboy wankery would come to an end once RTD was taken away from the controls... :?
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Burn » Mon Oct 06, 2008 3:52 pm

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So basically they want to establish once and for all that the Monk is NOT The Master.

meh ... whatever. I like the idea of Stewart being involved, just give him a decent role.
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Matrix. » Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:06 pm

Very doubtful over that article's validity- the Daily Star is a rag.

bcm77 wrote:Planet of the Ood was OK but Fires of Pompeii sucked.


Wow. I just find it so strange that you'd like the Sontaran episode that much. If you don't mind me saying, I thought it was one of the poorer episodes of the series. Was a bit cringeworthy.


bcm77 wrote:After the Sontaran story I stopped watching until the final 3 episodes


Eh? You saw episodes you liked, and thus decided not to find out if the trend continued? And didn't you watch the Moffat episodes?
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Darth Bombshell » Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:43 pm

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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Burn » Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:57 pm

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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Darth Bombshell » Thu Oct 30, 2008 10:09 am

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On the plus side, at least we're getting a new version of the Key to Time box set.

http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Doctor ... e-SE/10782
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Cheetron » Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:38 pm

I just read it too. That totally sucks. I liked him as The Doctor.
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Burn » Thu Oct 30, 2008 3:33 pm

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Maybe it's my hatred for him, but I can't help but think RTD has been whispering "look, we were successful, let's make it hard for Moffett to be successful so they have no choice but to acknowledge us as being the best thing to happen to DW" into his ear.
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Darth Bombshell » Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:29 am

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Burn wrote:Maybe it's my hatred for him, but I can't help but think RTD has been whispering "look, we were successful, let's make it hard for Moffett to be successful so they have no choice but to acknowledge us as being the best thing to happen to DW" into his ear.


It's sad that I can read that and think it to be 100% true. RTD's got an ego that could block out the sun.
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Burn » Fri Oct 31, 2008 3:09 pm

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It's easy enough to think of RTD that way. But it's disappointing to think that Tennant would go along with it.
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby bcm77 » Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:15 pm

I was VERY pleased to hear the news of Tennant's departure as while I initially liked him I ended up hating his Doctor largely because he never did anything but the same "manic" routine week after week and it got boring by the end of his 1st series.

I don't totally blame Tennant as he could only go with what material and direction he was given and I reckon working for a twat like RTD would likely stifle anyone's talent but if he was as good an actor as some people would have us believe that he should have been able to inject that extra something into his performances which meant he didn't suck the life out of a scene anytime he was required to be anything other than "manic".

Now that series 5 won't be blighted by RTD,Tennant and that hideous Tate woman I'm much more likely to give the revived show a final chance despite having considerable doubts over Steven Moffatt's ability though even I have to admit he surely can't make the show sink any lower than the last series on RTD's watch.
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Darth Bombshell » Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:34 pm

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bcm77 wrote:Now that series 5 won't be blighted by RTD,Tennant and that hideous Tate woman I'm much more likely to give the revived show a final chance despite having considerable doubts over Steven Moffatt's ability


This is the guy that brought us "The Girl In The Fireplace", "Blink", "Silence in the Library" and "Forest of the Dead", three/four episodes generally considered by fans to be at the top of the quality ladder. Doubts about his ability are pretty much unwarranted on my part, especially considering that, coming after RTD, best known for "classics" like "Aliens of London", "World War Three", "Love and Monsters", and screwing up the legacy of the Daleks even worse than JNT tried to do, there's nowhere to go but up, really.
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby bcm77 » Thu Nov 06, 2008 5:55 pm

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bcm77 wrote:Now that series 5 won't be blighted by RTD,Tennant and that hideous Tate woman I'm much more likely to give the revived show a final chance despite having considerable doubts over Steven Moffatt's ability


This is the guy that brought us "The Girl In The Fireplace", "Blink", "Silence in the Library" and "Forest of the Dead", three/four episodes generally considered by fans to be at the top of the quality ladder. Doubts about his ability are pretty much unwarranted on my part, especially considering that, coming after RTD, best known for "classics" like "Aliens of London", "World War Three", "Love and Monsters", and screwing up the legacy of the Daleks even worse than JNT tried to do, there's nowhere to go but up, really.


To date the only Moffatt story I've enjoyed was "The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances" from series 1.

I thought "The Girl Tn The Fireplace" was dull,"Blink" one of the worst episodes in the show's history and whilst I can't comment on the whole of his series 4 story due to having only seen clips I don't expect it will be any different to most of the other garbage that was in series 4 so I really can't be bothered to go back & watch it.

Judging by the interviews I've seen on various DVD extras Moffatt also seems to be a very arrogant individual which doesn't endear him to me either.

Maybe if he can restore Davros,the Daleks and The Master to being credible characters again and drop all the dubious agendas that RTD has in his vision of Who and it's spinoffs I might be convinced but based on his work on the show so far I have to remain sceptical.
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Blast Cannon » Thu Nov 06, 2008 6:11 pm

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bcm77 wrote:Now that series 5 won't be blighted by RTD,Tennant and that hideous Tate woman I'm much more likely to give the revived show a final chance despite having considerable doubts over Steven Moffatt's ability


This is the guy that brought us "The Girl In The Fireplace", "Blink", "Silence in the Library" and "Forest of the Dead", three/four episodes generally considered by fans to be at the top of the quality ladder. Doubts about his ability are pretty much unwarranted on my part, especially considering that, coming after RTD, best known for "classics" like "Aliens of London", "World War Three", "Love and Monsters", and screwing up the legacy of the Daleks even worse than JNT tried to do, there's nowhere to go but up, really.


To date the only Moffatt story I've enjoyed was "The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances" from series 1.

I thought "The Girl Tn The Fireplace" was dull,"Blink" one of the worst episodes in the show's history and whilst I can't comment on the whole of his series 4 story due to having only seen clips I don't expect it will be any different to most of the other garbage that was in series 4 so I really can't be bothered to go back & watch it.

Judging by the interviews I've seen on various DVD extras Moffatt also seems to be a very arrogant individual which doesn't endear him to me either.

Maybe if he can restore Davros,the Daleks and The Master to being credible characters again and drop all the dubious agendas that RTD has in his vision of Who and it's spinoffs I might be convinced but based on his work on the show so far I have to remain sceptical.


There's always one isn't there... :-P

I think both RTD and Moffat are to be thoroughly commended for three entertaining and wonderful series of Dr Who. I'm sick of hearing purists banging on about ruining legacies and whatnot. Get a grip. It's a science fiction show with a premise involving an alien in a time travelling police box, and you're complaining about legitimate legacies and 'as if' conclusions? Christ.
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Exdominus » Thu Nov 06, 2008 8:39 pm

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Oh don't get me started on revamping a series and then scrwewing up totally Look at star trek and berman and braga's attempt to revitalize the show with enterprise WHCIH TOTAL SUCKED
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby bcm77 » Fri Nov 07, 2008 2:55 am

Blast Cannon,
As I had never seen an episode of the Classic series prior to the show's revival I can hardly be considered a purist as you suggest.
Bottom line is I didn't find the last 2 series as entertaining as the first two.
Just because I don't share your views is no reason for you to try and ridicule me in some way so if you can't handle that not everyone feels the same way about the show as you do then I think it's you that needs to get a grip :MAD:
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Lorekeeper » Fri Nov 07, 2008 5:35 am

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Doctor Who's strength has always been that it can survive a total change in cast and/or direction. So long as 43 spin-offs don't kill it and funding doesn't dry up, the show should survive. So what if we think a few episodes suck? (Strange how some people seem to love those same exact episodes... hmmm. Can they suck so much, then?) DW's survival is more important than our perception of its success.
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Burn » Fri Nov 07, 2008 6:39 am

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And it did survive for 30 odd years before finally being cancelled ... only to be revived a few years later and has become one of the BBC's biggest shows.

But of course some people aren't going to enjoy it, that's to be expected. Their opinion certaintly is going to change mine.

I LIKED LOVE AND MONSTERS!

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