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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Rial Vestro » Sat Jun 20, 2009 11:43 pm

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ANd the yellow guy thing holds true for most successful american series's. Atleast where I live, RID was almost unheard of. it was a fox weekday cartoon. the last one the had i believe.


True, R.I.D. was the last Transformers series to air on Fox Kids allthough for some reason in my area either the cable or the station would allways cut out whenever it was on so it technically never even aired. All I saw of it on TV was the opening of Megatron in claw mode kidnapping the scientist dude and then nothing. It pissed me off to great ends that it would allways happen only durring Transformers.

I watched the series on YouTube a couple years ago.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Jun 21, 2009 12:45 am

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You think that's bad, you should here my story.

Many years ago, back when Beast Wars and Beast Machines were airing on Fox Kids, there was a big conflict that occured on my local TV stations. Originally, my local broadcast channels consisted of two Fox stations: one that was the regular Fox channel (Fow 13), and the other was like an independent channel that Fox owned (Fox 38). And between these two networks, it was 38 that the Fox Kids programming aired on. Around the late 90's/early 2000, however, a big change came about. The WB, airing on another channel, decided to move away from its current channel, 32, and took over channel 38. At the same time that Fox Kids was on, The WB was trying to cram in their own Kids WB! programming onto the same channel. This wasn't that bad at first, as Fox Kids remained on Saturday mornings with Kids WB airing on Sunday mornings. BUT, in the mid 2001, something terrible happened: The WB 38 completely dropped all its Fox Kids programming in favor of its Kids WB! shows. I was devastated! And this whole event happened TWO WEEKS before the premiere of Transformers: Robots in Disguise, as well as ONE WEEK before the premiere of the third season of Digimon, and right in the middle of an epic three-part episode of Power Rangers Time Force, as well interfering with several other Fox Kids shows!

I did not have cable at the time, nor was I capable of watching any of these shows. The only way I could watch any of them was to view them when my family would go on vacation. During its entire broadcast run, I had only gotten to see six episodes, and not in the correct order either (except for the first episode, which I saw first - luckily I was on vacation during its premiere, but that was a one-time fortune).

Fortunately, Fox Kids did come back almost seven months later, on the independent channel 32 that The WB was on before their (hostile) takeover of 38. Unfortunately, by that time, RiD ceased airing on Fox Kids completely.

It would not be till very late 2007 when I finally got to see the whole series on YouTube. To this day, I still loathe The WB for what they did to my favorite network as a child. But seeing as how it no longer exists, as it merged with UPN to form The CW and Kids WB! has been replaced with The CW4Kids, I haven't any positive nor negative feelings towards it. I simply don't care anymore as it has faded from existence.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Rial Vestro » Sun Jun 21, 2009 11:20 am

Around that time I was actully starting to like the WB MORE than Fox because Fox Kids had allready announced that they were dropping all their current shows and replaceing them with several other shows that I had absolutly no interest in. In other words, that horrible invention known as the Fox Box.

Fox has allways aired on 2 channels in my area but that has never interfered with Kids WB. Fox was allways on channel 2 and channel 9 while kids WB was on channel 5. The two Fox networks have allways been exactly the same except for showing the programs in different time slots which useually worked out well because there were some shows on Kids WB I liked to watch and would stick to that as my main network switching to a different Fox Kids depending on which one was showing the program I actully wanted to see at the same time Kids WB had nothing good on. If both fox had something I wanted to watch on at the same time it'd be OK because the one I would end up watching would just show the same program later in the day as the one I decided not to watch.

Kids network I had the most problem with was Disney and Nickelodeon which would change stations every couple of months. Nick was on channel 25 most of the time, that was the channel they'd allways switch back to but they'd be somewhere different every time they switched somewhere else. They were on 20 till I finally got digital cable which seems to have the same channels as satelight but the basic cable was weird.

There was allways at least 1 spanish station in my area too but durring that last channel change thing I ended up with 3 Spanish stations. There's other channels that would rearrange as well but given I never paid much attention to any of them I couldn't tell you what. I only paid attention to the Spanish stations because I stopped on one of them one day and this random thought popped into my head. "It must really suck for thoughs Spanish kids at my school if this is all they have to watch." Not that they couldn't speak English allthough I know at least one kid who's parrents didn't speak English because I heard teachers talking about getting a translator for parrent teacher meetings and that would mean his parrents would only be watching thoughs 3 stations or turn off the TV.

This was back when I still watched TV ALOT! Which I don't anymore. I use to watch TV every Sunday night and that was all, I don't even do that anymore sence I have DVR now. I watch TV whenever I'm bored and just see what I have recorded.

When I was in school I watched so much TV I could tell the time by what show I was watching. Not possible sence the hostile take over of reality shows that nearly ended all my TV watching. Actual good shows are slowly starting to creep their way back on TV though so that's good... unless they all get canceled.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Name_Violation » Sun Jun 21, 2009 4:02 pm

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out here RID was a 2:30 in the afternoon broadcast. the last afternoon cartoon fox did. then they just had weekend fox kids. Now saturday morning is just infomercials. wb took over being the sole saturday morning brodcast station, unless you like hanna montana
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Rial Vestro » Sun Jun 21, 2009 10:53 pm

Name_Violation wrote:out here RID was a 2:30 in the afternoon broadcast. the last afternoon cartoon fox did. then they just had weekend fox kids. Now saturday morning is just infomercials. wb took over being the sole saturday morning brodcast station, unless you like hanna montana


Normally when I think of Saturday morning kid stations I think "Saturday Morning CARTOONS!" so Hanna Montana doesn't count even if some kid does watch that series on Saturday mornings.

I haven't watched fox at all sence the Fox Box started up. I know it changed it's name again and kept the same shows as the Fox Box but I don't watch it anymore.

I really don't watch Kids WB anymore either sence it's now restricted to Saturday mornings insted of being on all week. Use to show the reruns from Saturday durring the week so if you missed a new episode you could just catch it again durring the week but nope, not anymore.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Name_Violation » Sun Jun 21, 2009 11:23 pm

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Name_Violation wrote:out here RID was a 2:30 in the afternoon broadcast. the last afternoon cartoon fox did. then they just had weekend fox kids. Now saturday morning is just infomercials. wb took over being the sole saturday morning brodcast station, unless you like hanna montana


Normally when I think of Saturday morning kid stations I think "Saturday Morning CARTOONS!" so Hanna Montana doesn't count even if some kid does watch that series on Saturday mornings.

I haven't watched fox at all sence the Fox Box started up. I know it changed it's name again and kept the same shows as the Fox Box but I don't watch it anymore.

I really don't watch Kids WB anymore either sence it's now restricted to Saturday mornings insted of being on all week. Use to show the reruns from Saturday durring the week so if you missed a new episode you could just catch it again durring the week but nope, not anymore.


there is no fox box any more. fox is infomercials all saturday morn, so is cbs. everything but the CW is, but thats all Chaotik/yu-gi-oh crap, not worth watching.

Animated didn't even get a 2nd run for this season, as soon as season was over it got replaced.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Shadowman » Sun Jun 21, 2009 11:29 pm

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Rial Vestro wrote:Normally when I think of Saturday morning kid stations I think "Saturday Morning CARTOONS!" so Hanna Montana doesn't count even if some kid does watch that series on Saturday mornings.


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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:57 am

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Fox Kids was replaced by the Fox Box (composed of shows owned by 4Kids), which changed its name to 4Kids TV, which is now no longer in existence.

When The WB and UPN merged into The CW, Kids WB! was still showing on The CW, until it (like Fox Kids) met its demise and was replaced by The CW4Kids.

For a while, both 4Kids TV and The CW4Kids ran side-by-side with the former airing on Fox and the latter airing on The CW. Shows on 4Kids TV consisted of new episodes of newer 4Kids shows, while The CW4Kids ran reruns of older 4Kids shows, as well as new episodes of The Batman (the last surviving Kids WB! show on the channel).

Eventually, 4Kids TV came to its end, but instead of disappearing altogether, it simply moved into The CW4Kids. With the CW4Kids being to only of the two left, it continued showing various 4Kids shows, as well as a few others like The Spectacular Spider-Man (which moved to Disney XD) and currently Kamen Rider Dragon Knight (the only show I watch on the program block).

As for what became of Fox Kids, all of Fox Kids' programming moved to ABC Family (which had changed from the Fox Family channel around the same time Fox Kids was in its final days) and was gathered in its own 2-hour program block everyday, showing four different shows each day (except for Sunday mornings, which took those two hours to show four Power Rangers episodes from past seasons in a block called "Best of Power Rangers"). Also, new episdes of Power Rangers would air on ABC Kids (formerly Disney's 1 Saturday Morning), and continues to do so to this day. But one show did not go onto ABC Family and instead went to UPN: Digimon season four (Frontier's English dub). But once that show ran all the way through to its finale, it finally joined its fellow former-Fox Kids shows on ABC Family, which had by this time developed its own programming block on that channel called Jetix (Jetix didn't start up right away when the shows came to ABC Family). Jetix begn playing on ABC Family for a while, and eventually added a part of it to the Toon Disney channel. Over time, the Toon Disney Jetix block grew bigger than the ABC Family Jetix block (by this time "Best of Power Rangers" had been changed to "Power Ranger Generations"), and it was finally decided that all Jetix shows would be permanently moved to Toon Disney, where they resided from then on, taking up the Primetime and late-night/early-morning timeslots. Eventually, a new show aired on Jetix that had a connection to an old Fox Kids show. This new show was Digimon Dat Squad (the Digimon Savers English dub). Sometime after this show reached its finale, Toon Disney was completely revamped as Disney XD, consisting solely of showes targeted at late-grade school students to older children (gone were all the preschool/kindergarten/early-grade school targeted shows). With this new change came some new live-action shows, some other old cartoons from the 90's (some even came from Kids WB!) and all shows that were par of Jetix were integrated in to the channel itself, being shown sparsly during the day, and all the main shows starting sometime after midnight and ending before the dawn (except for Power rangers, which was removed form the channel, now all curent new episodes air only on ABC Kids). This is how it is today for all the surviving Fox Kids shows.

As for Kids WB!'s fate, when it got replaced by The CW4Kids, some of its programming remained on The CW4Kids, until it all got taken off, ending with The Batman. After that, most/all of its shows from varying points of the past were moved to/started up again on Cartoon Network, Boomerang, and Toon Disney, and even more came back when Disney XD was born. Currently, all shows that were previously part ofKids WB! that are still airing on TV (whether in new episodes or reruns) are playing on Cartoon Network, Boomerang, and Disney XD.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Name_Violation » Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:14 pm

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howerver kids wb does still exist on demand. the even have thundercats an ghostbusters episodes.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Rial Vestro » Mon Jun 22, 2009 4:55 pm

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Name_Violation wrote:out here RID was a 2:30 in the afternoon broadcast. the last afternoon cartoon fox did. then they just had weekend fox kids. Now saturday morning is just infomercials. wb took over being the sole saturday morning brodcast station, unless you like hanna montana


Normally when I think of Saturday morning kid stations I think "Saturday Morning CARTOONS!" so Hanna Montana doesn't count even if some kid does watch that series on Saturday mornings.

I haven't watched fox at all sence the Fox Box started up. I know it changed it's name again and kept the same shows as the Fox Box but I don't watch it anymore.

I really don't watch Kids WB anymore either sence it's now restricted to Saturday mornings insted of being on all week. Use to show the reruns from Saturday durring the week so if you missed a new episode you could just catch it again durring the week but nope, not anymore.


there is no fox box any more. fox is infomercials all saturday morn, so is cbs. everything but the CW is, but thats all Chaotik/yu-gi-oh crap, not worth watching.

Animated didn't even get a 2nd run for this season, as soon as season was over it got replaced.


Actully they are still showing reruns of Animated on the Cartoon Network at it's normal time. Only the Saturday showing was replaced sence there's no new episodes and that was when all the new episodes would premier.

BTW Chaotic was one of the only shows from Fox Box I actully liked. I just found out recently they have new episodes with a different animation styal.

Before it looked like South Park styal animation ecept that their legs actully move indipendantly. Now it looks like every other anime show.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

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Postby Praxus Prime » Tue Mar 16, 2010 1:51 pm

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At first, I HATED Animated. Season 1 characters were lousy (I think so anyway), but after watching later episodes, and parts of the movie, It kinda grew on me. :BOT:
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Mar 16, 2010 6:51 pm

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:shock: Woah! Old topic. Was not expecting this one to be revived. But I guess it's only logical since animated is starting up again with it's new Japanese run and the upcoming AllSpark Almanac 2.

Praxus Prime wrote:At first, I HATED Animated. Season 1 characters were lousy (I think so anyway), but after watching later episodes, and parts of the movie, It kinda grew on me. :BOT:
Movie? Are you referring to either "Transform and Roll Out" or "Transwarped"? Both of which are actually three-part episodes each aired as a TV special.

Though, when "Transwarped" aired in Canada, it did not air all three episodes at once as a TV special, but instead aired each of them one weekend at a time.
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Postby vegetacron » Sat Mar 20, 2010 9:43 pm

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I've tried, but i still can't get into this series. I have to say, i really enjoyed Armada over this version. /prays for better TF cartoons
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:50 am

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vegetacron wrote:I've tried, but i still can't get into this series. I have to say, i really enjoyed Armada over this version. /prays for better TF cartoons
Well, how far have you gotten into the series? Admittedly, the human villian episodes aren't that good (with the exceptions of Meltdown and some of the Headmaster episodes), but the episodes involving the Decepticons are brutal. Particularly the one that introduces Blitzwing and Lugnut. And each season finale is just epic!
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

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The official Transformers Animated Story Bible has been uncovered and posted online for all to see, courtesy of Allspark.com!
Thanks to The Allspark’s Powered Convoy, we have a special treat for Transformers fans – an early story bible for the ‘Transformers Animated’ cartoon, dating to March 2006!

You can download the PDF here, and get a look at the early development of this fan-favorite cartoon, as written by story editor Marty Isenberg!

The bible lays out the intended premise of the show, what will set it apart from previous Transformers cartoon, and the powers and personalities of its cast. Ratchet was once Red Alert, Bumblebee was once Hotshot, and more!

Also included is swathes of development art, given us a peek at early concepts for the visual style, before it gained its famous Derrick J. Wyatt look!
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Sabrblade wrote:The official Transformers Animated Story Bible has been uncovered and posted online for all to see, courtesy of Allpark.com!
Thanks to The Allspark’s Powered Convoy, we have a special treat for Transformers fans – an early story bible for the ‘Transformers Animated’ cartoon, dating to March 2006!

You can download the PDF here, and get a look at the early development of this fan-favorite cartoon, as written by story editor Marty Isenberg!

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Also included is swathes of development art, given us a peek at early concepts for the visual style, before it gained its famous Derrick J. Wyatt look!
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