The Energon Pub

[TurboMMaster]

Well this is the first series since Beast Wars not to feature a tank alt-mode.

And this is something, what should change as soon as possible.

[PrymeStriker]

I am still curious to see if we will see Predaking remember they did say a combiner would show on Prime who is a combiner PredaKing aka Predacons cant wait to see them again.

Predaking is not a gestalt in Prime. He's one guy.

[TurboMMaster]

Gesalt or not, I hope he show us something awesome.

[Rodimus2006]

See what I mean in G1 Predacons formed Predaking in Prime Predaking is 1 Being instead of combiner. While I like these new ideas such as the new Omega Lock makes Cybertrons look like a weak chicken in comparison. I just wished they paid somwhat Homeage to the Oldschool I grew up with.

I would rather see the Predocons their leader Razorclaw or Razor I foget which they had a feud of sorts with Springer in G1. So I hope they havent changed to much from G1 such as my beloved Dinobots and Grimlock better say "ME GRIMLOCK KICK BUTT" but I have a gut feeling this Grimlock will be diffrent from Animated version or his G1 version everything in Prime is diffrent. This isnt a bad thing this is an awesome thing being a G1 where my 30th anniversary will be on 2014 also TF 4s release date I wanna see more of Prime. I love all this new stuff it uses the same names from the old but they are nothing like the old. I love this it makes Prime its own deal.

[RAcast]

See what I mean in G1 Predacons formed Predaking in Prime Predaking is 1 Being instead of combiner. While I like these new ideas such as the new Omega Lock makes Cybertrons look like a weak chicken in comparison. I just wished they paid somwhat Homeage to the Oldschool I grew up with.

This is where I point out that the Prime Predacons homage the G1 Terrorcons/Horrorcons (in that...well a few of them actively homage them, like Twinstrike) more than anything. Obviously, even though they're blatantly Terrorcons, the name was given to the Dark Energon zombies, so they become Predacons by default. Not to mention that there's precedent for naming beast alt-mode "Decepticons", Predacons.

[TurboMMaster]

So I hope they havent changed to much from G1 such as my beloved Dinobots and Grimlock better say "ME GRIMLOCK KICK BUTT" but I have a gut feeling this Grimlock will be diffrent from Animated version or his G1 version everything in Prime is diffrent. This isnt a bad thing this is an awesome thing being a G1 where my 30th anniversary will be on 2014 also TF 4s release date I wanna see more of Prime. I love all this new stuff it uses the same names from the old but they are nothing like the old. I love this it makes Prime its own deal.

Actually, I always like how many characters in Prime are portraited in completly new way. For me, any time new universe is created, they should create at least a few characters from the beggining. In Prime few character are completly different than they previous counterparts and this make show far more interesting than for example Animate.

[Hypershock]

I was waiting for somebody to quote this

Well why didn't you quote it. The you wouldn't have had to wait.

.......because i was waiting for it? I really didn't wanna do it myself, but when i saw that post on tfw, i thought that it was only a matter of time that it was widely used to defend Dreadwing's death......

[njb902]

how on earth does megatron's fusion cannon fit in his arm?

[Sabrblade]

how on earth does megatron's fusion cannon fit in his arm?

He doesn't have it (except in altmode for some reason). He shot Dreadwing with Dreadwing's own weapon.

[RAcast]

how on earth does megatron's fusion cannon fit in his arm?

He doesn't have it (except in altmode for some reason). He shot Dreadwing with Dreadwing's own weapon.

I was having this discussion with my friend the other day, haha. The new arm doesn't show up in his altmode either. >.>;

[njb902]

how on earth does megatron's fusion cannon fit in his arm?

He doesn't have it (except in altmode for some reason). He shot Dreadwing with Dreadwing's own weapon.

If he has it in altmode then he must have it. I guess I must have missed seeing him with Dreadwing's cannon.

[Shadowman]

how on earth does megatron's fusion cannon fit in his arm?

Probably the same way Arcee can transform at all, and she's at least twice the size of her own alt-mode.

[King Kuuga]

I finally watched the latest episode. HOLY SH*T. I love season finales for this reason, I just wish they weren't so....final. So much happened in this 22 minutes! Dreadwing abandoned the 'cons, gave the Autobots the forge of Solus Prime, attacked Starscream and died. 'Screamer got his T-Cog back, was rewarded the rank of Lieutenant (I really think Soundwave should be the second in command, of all the characters. He's by far the most loyal and pretty competent to boot), the 'cons set course for Cybertron with their four keys. Optimus upgrades the Ground Bridge into a Space Bridge, fixes his Star Saber, and everybody packs all the relics they've gathered. EPIC battle ensues. I think Arcee in Apex Armor is the most ridiculously awesome thing I've ever seen. The way they put all the relics to use, I think we've all been waiting for this ALL SEASON LONG. So the Autobots snag all the keys, start to activate the Omega Lock, and then BAM. Megatron appears with the three kids in tow. Which....well, I know "no life is worth sacrificing" and all (unless you're a vehicon, then pfft whatever), but 3 humans for the sake of an entire civilization. Come on now.
Also, David Willis had this to say: http://www.shortpacked.com/2012/comic/b ... ng/ransom/

*sigh* So the Decepticon cast is down to Megatron, Starscream, Soundwave, and Knock Out now. And a bunch of Vehicons, Jet Vehicons, and Insecticons. Sure, next season introduces the Predacons, but I really wish we had more named characters. And I hope we get an Insecticon toy over here.

[PrymeStriker]

how on earth does megatron's fusion cannon fit in his arm?

Probably the same way Arcee can transform at all, and she's at least twice the size of her own alt-mode.

Same goes for Bulkhead, most noticeable because of the six-or-seven-foot wheels.



Or...just about any character.

(I really think Soundwave should be the second in command, of all the characters. He's by far the most loyal and pretty competent to boot)

But he's already Surveillance Officer & Communications Officer. Does he need a third post?

*sigh* So the Decepticon cast is down to Megatron, Starscream, Soundwave, and Knock Out now. And a bunch of Vehicons, Jet Vehicons, and Insecticons.

Don't forget Laserbeak!

[Sabrblade]

how on earth does megatron's fusion cannon fit in his arm?

He doesn't have it (except in altmode for some reason). He shot Dreadwing with Dreadwing's own weapon.

If he has it in altmode then he must have it.

It's becuase the animators didn't bother to alter Megatron's altmode CG model to remove the cannon and/or incorporate the new arm.

[King Kuuga]

(I really think Soundwave should be the second in command, of all the characters. He's by far the most loyal and pretty competent to boot)

But he's already Surveillance Officer & Communications Officer. Does he need a third post?

They should use Starscream's cloning machine on him. Then Megatron would have all the loyal servents he could ask for.

*sigh* So the Decepticon cast is down to Megatron, Starscream, Soundwave, and Knock Out now. And a bunch of Vehicons, Jet Vehicons, and Insecticons.

Don't forget Laserbeak!

An invaluable member of the Decepticons, for sure. I look forward to Beast Hunters to see if Ravage actually appears in the show, or if he's doomed to be yet another toy-only character.

[PrymeStriker]

(I really think Soundwave should be the second in command, of all the characters. He's by far the most loyal and pretty competent to boot)

But he's already Surveillance Officer & Communications Officer. Does he need a third post?

They should use Starscream's cloning machine on him. Then Megatron would have all the loyal servents he could ask for.

He'd need raw protoforms in order to complete the cloning process. I don't think Megatron or Starscream has spare protoforms lying around.

[RAcast]

(I really think Soundwave should be the second in command, of all the characters. He's by far the most loyal and pretty competent to boot)

But he's already Surveillance Officer & Communications Officer. Does he need a third post?

They should use Starscream's cloning machine on him. Then Megatron would have all the loyal servents he could ask for.

He'd need raw protoforms in order to complete the cloning process. I don't think Megatron or Starscream has spare protoforms lying around.

That reminds me, where do the hundreds of cannon fodder Vehicons come from? o_o;

[PrymeStriker]

(I really think Soundwave should be the second in command, of all the characters. He's by far the most loyal and pretty competent to boot)

But he's already Surveillance Officer & Communications Officer. Does he need a third post?

They should use Starscream's cloning machine on him. Then Megatron would have all the loyal servents he could ask for.

He'd need raw protoforms in order to complete the cloning process. I don't think Megatron or Starscream has spare protoforms lying around.

That reminds me, where do the hundreds of cannon fodder Vehicons come from? o_o;

Perhaps they're all individuals on the inside and they're wearing a "uniform?"

[RAcast]

(I really think Soundwave should be the second in command, of all the characters. He's by far the most loyal and pretty competent to boot)

But he's already Surveillance Officer & Communications Officer. Does he need a third post?

They should use Starscream's cloning machine on him. Then Megatron would have all the loyal servents he could ask for.

He'd need raw protoforms in order to complete the cloning process. I don't think Megatron or Starscream has spare protoforms lying around.

That reminds me, where do the hundreds of cannon fodder Vehicons come from? o_o;

Perhaps they're all individuals on the inside and they're wearing a "uniform?"

But are all the Steves made from protoforms...or mass produced some other way? I mean, if they are made from protoforms, why not just pull a Starscream and infinitely clone...Megatron, for instance. I mean, he'd have to pull a G1 and nerf his clones, of course.
But that hasn't happened, which suggests to me that the Vehicons AREN'T made from protoforms, and they're created some other way. And that brings me to this:

In Beast Machines, for example, Megatron has HUGE factories dedicated to churning out Vehicon after Vehicon. I suspect the Nemesis must house a scaled down version of such a facility, though I can't help but feel there are better uses of the spare Energon reserves than cannon fodder...

[PrymeStriker]

I suspect the Nemesis must house a scaled down version of such a facility, though I can't help but feel there are better uses of the spare Energon reserves than cannon fodder...

How about instead of Steve, we've got Joe, Mark, Lloyd, Wilson, Paul, Carl...



...Kyle, Tyrone, Tim, and then Steve!

[TurboMMaster]

If Vehicons are simply manufactured drones, they are extremly well made.

[RAcast]

If Vehicons are simply manufactured drones, they are extremly well made.

The weird thing is, some of them seem to display personality. They're a mystery wrapped in an enigma!

[PrymeStriker]

They all have personality. They just don't all have dialogue.

[Hypershock]

how on earth does megatron's fusion cannon fit in his arm?

Probably the same way Arcee can transform at all, and she's at least twice the size of her own alt-mode.

Same goes for Bulkhead, most noticeable because of the six-or-seven-foot wheels.



Or...just about any character.

(I really think Soundwave should be the second in command, of all the characters. He's by far the most loyal and pretty competent to boot)

But he's already Surveillance Officer & Communications Officer. Does he need a third post?

*sigh* So the Decepticon cast is down to Megatron, Starscream, Soundwave, and Knock Out now. And a bunch of Vehicons, Jet Vehicons, and Insecticons.

Don't forget Laserbeak!

Yea, there are many size-related grievances, so many that we kinda take them for granted. My favorite happened in the beginning five-parter, when Bulkhead ran inexplicably fast for his size