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Like Prowl76 on Facebook · by **Prowl76** » Wed May 30, 2007 4:41 pm

Sorry..went off there...anyways...the state of wrestling right now is kinda pathetic..I think that is the bottom line of all of this.

News Credits: 1 · by **Venomous Prime** » Wed May 30, 2007 5:19 pm

I swear to god people, Vince is watching WCW tapes or something.

First using the Cruiserweight Title, US Title, and the big gold belt, then the New Breed(blatant rip off of the New Blood), and now a "night of Champions"? Can anyone say Clash of the Champions?

by **The Paragon of Virtue** » Wed May 30, 2007 5:34 pm

Phategod1 wrote:are you a philly boy Oh how I miss the boys of 93.

Nope. Minnesota. Just love baseball. And how can you not love a team with the likes of Nails Dykstra and Dutch Dalton? :grin:

Venomous Prime wrote:I swear to god people, Vince is watching WCW tapes or something.

First using the Cruiserweight Title, US Title, and the big gold belt, then the New Breed(blatant rip off of the New Blood), and now a "night of Champions"? Can anyone say Clash of the Champions?

If Vince were watching WCW tapes (old ones anyway), the CW title would mean something and the shows would have actual wrestling. If he was watching late-WCW, the show would make even less sense and suck so much more than they do now that it would defy words.

The rest I wouldn't really say are that much copying, as following formulas. New Breed was used as a playing point for the new ECW, and the Rotten Brothers in ECW were called the Bad Breed, plus, old vs. young is an archetype feud. The U.S. title is a common secondary title. And the Night of Champions isn't entirely a new concept either. Plus, the Clash didn't always have every belt defended.

News Credits: 11 · by **Robinson** » Wed May 30, 2007 5:34 pm

Venomous Prime wrote:I swear to god people, Vince is watching WCW tapes or something.

First using the Cruiserweight Title, US Title, and the big gold belt, then the New Breed(blatant rip off of the New Blood), and now a "night of Champions"? Can anyone say Clash of the Champions?

Well since he owns all of those properties he does have every right to them, and just about every storyline possible has been used before by various promotions stuff is bound to be recycled and its not like these are new concepts to be used. Especially the belts they've been in use for neary 5 years now in one form or another. Also WCW was itself a copy of WWF at the time so in reality who copied who. And David Arquette's never been a WWE champion so I'd say theres a little bit more prestige in holding a WWE belt.

by **The Paragon of Virtue** » Wed May 30, 2007 5:36 pm

Chris™ wrote:Well since he owns all of those properties he does have every right to them, and just about every storyline possible has been used before by various promotions stuff is bound to be recycled and its not like these are new concepts to be used.

Jim Cornette's belief is that you can recycle a gimmick or storyline every about seven years because it will be out of people's minds by then. Granted, not over ol' James E. follows this, but that's been one of the standards.

News Credits: 11 · by **Robinson** » Wed May 30, 2007 5:42 pm

The Paragon of Virtue wrote:
Chris™ wrote:Well since he owns all of those properties he does have every right to them, and just about every storyline possible has been used before by various promotions stuff is bound to be recycled and its not like these are new concepts to be used.

Jim Cornette's belief is that you can recycle a gimmick or storyline every about seven years because it will be out of people's minds by then. Granted, not over ol' James E. follows this, but that's been one of the standards.

I always hated him in wwe. That damn tennis racket. Sooner or later tna is going to use some of these same concepts and people will complain then too. And for those that say tna is better than wwe, as far back as I can remember wwe has never done a electric cage match with piped in electricity sounds and the wrestlers being so bad at selling the "electrocution"

News Credits: 2 · by **Phategod1** » Wed May 30, 2007 7:15 pm

The Paragon of Virtue wrote:
Phategod1 wrote:are you a philly boy Oh how I miss the boys of 93.

Nope. Minnesota. Just love baseball. And how can you not love a team with the likes of Nails Dykstra and Dutch Dalton?

Not to mention the Krukker, too bad Dutch lost his mind. Saw him on real sports a couple of months ago, He used to be my hero.

News Credits: 1 · by **Gears** » Wed May 30, 2007 8:27 pm

Why don't they just change Smackdown to "WCW Friday Nitro?" That way we'd have WWE on Mondays, ECW on Tuesdays, and WCW on Fridays.

by **Mighty Scorponok** » Wed May 30, 2007 8:55 pm

And Bring Nitro Girls back :grin:

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Wed May 30, 2007 9:24 pm

Mighty Scorponok wrote:And Bring Nitro Girls back

They're called "Extreme Expose" now.

News Credits: 11 · by **Robinson** » Wed May 30, 2007 9:35 pm

Burn wrote:
Mighty Scorponok wrote:And Bring Nitro Girls back

They're called "Extreme Expose" now.

Actually its the women's division

News Credits: 1 · by **Venomous Prime** » Wed May 30, 2007 9:59 pm

Chris™ wrote:
Burn wrote:
Mighty Scorponok wrote:And Bring Nitro Girls back

They're called "Extreme Expose" now.

Actually its the women's division

The Nitro Girls Danced, and actually danced not whatever the hell the Extreme Expose are doing

News Credits: 2 · by **Phategod1** » Wed May 30, 2007 10:06 pm

Venomous Prime wrote:
Chris™ wrote:
Burn wrote:
Mighty Scorponok wrote:And Bring Nitro Girls back

They're called "Extreme Expose" now.

Actually its the women's division

The Nitro Girls Danced, and actually danced not whatever the hell the Extreme Expose are doing

I'd rather watch EE do what ever they as opposed to watch the lame ass Womens division. Or did you forget about Wrestlemania

Like steve2275 on Facebook · by **steve2275** » Wed May 30, 2007 10:20 pm

Mighty Scorponok wrote:And Bring Nitro Girls back

including hbk's wife

News Credits: 1 · by **Heavy B** » Thu May 31, 2007 6:01 am

Gears wrote:Why don't they just change Smackdown to "WCW Friday Nitro?" That way we'd have WWE on Mondays, ECW on Tuesdays, and WCW on Fridays.

becuase wcw purist(s) would bitch. and as far as i know vince can only take so much bitchin. OR it'll happen september as is the tradition for smackdown to change every september...

by **Mighty Scorponok** » Thu May 31, 2007 6:50 am

Extreme Expose differs from WCW Nitro Girls in the fact that Nitro Girls could actually dance, while Extreme expose just dress skanky, and suck at dancing. They look like a bunch of money hungry w#@@!s.

News Credits: 1 · by **Venomous Prime** » Thu May 31, 2007 10:45 am

Heavy B wrote:
Gears wrote:Why don't they just change Smackdown to "WCW Friday Nitro?" That way we'd have WWE on Mondays, ECW on Tuesdays, and WCW on Fridays.

becuase wcw purist(s) would bitch. and as far as i know vince can only take so much bitchin. OR it'll happen september as is the tradition for smackdown to change every september...

If it gets changed to WCW Friday Nitro I will do more then bitch.

WCW was my childhood, I'm not going to let Vince McMahon rape another part of my childhood like he is doing with ECW

News Credits: 11 · by **Robinson** » Thu May 31, 2007 10:52 am

Venomous Prime wrote:
Heavy B wrote:
Gears wrote:Why don't they just change Smackdown to "WCW Friday Nitro?" That way we'd have WWE on Mondays, ECW on Tuesdays, and WCW on Fridays.

becuase wcw purist(s) would bitch. and as far as i know vince can only take so much bitchin. OR it'll happen september as is the tradition for smackdown to change every september...

If it gets changed to WCW Friday Nitro I will do more then bitch.

WCW was my childhood, I'm not going to let Vince McMahon rape another part of my childhood like he is doing with ECW

From what I remember wcw was kinda poopy up until they started the original nwo and made it a little more "real". Granted I didnt watch it in the very early 90's, only from late 94 early 95 and then on until the end of it when it got poopy again.

News Credits: 2 · by **Phategod1** » Thu May 31, 2007 3:45 pm

Chris™ wrote:
Venomous Prime wrote:
Heavy B wrote:
Gears wrote:Why don't they just change Smackdown to "WCW Friday Nitro?" That way we'd have WWE on Mondays, ECW on Tuesdays, and WCW on Fridays.

becuase wcw purist(s) would bitch. and as far as i know vince can only take so much bitchin. OR it'll happen september as is the tradition for smackdown to change every september...

If it gets changed to WCW Friday Nitro I will do more then bitch.

WCW was my childhood, I'm not going to let Vince McMahon rape another part of my childhood like he is doing with ECW

From what I remember wcw was kinda poopy up until they started the original nwo and made it a little more "real". Granted I didnt watch it in the very early 90's, only from late 94 early 95 and then on until the end of it when it got poopy again.

I dont think WCW was ever poopy (till Russo got there) WCW was like the only wreslting company where every wrestlers name didn't start with the word "the". In other words everyone was not a cartoon character. WCW was more substance over style I'm not saying That WCW/NWA didn't have characters But the show had alot more integrity then WWE does now. I'd sell a million souls to get back Bischoff's WCW.

News Credits: 11 · by **Robinson** » Thu May 31, 2007 4:02 pm

Phategod1 wrote:
Chris™ wrote:
Venomous Prime wrote:
Heavy B wrote:
Gears wrote:Why don't they just change Smackdown to "WCW Friday Nitro?" That way we'd have WWE on Mondays, ECW on Tuesdays, and WCW on Fridays.

becuase wcw purist(s) would bitch. and as far as i know vince can only take so much bitchin. OR it'll happen september as is the tradition for smackdown to change every september...

If it gets changed to WCW Friday Nitro I will do more then bitch.

WCW was my childhood, I'm not going to let Vince McMahon rape another part of my childhood like he is doing with ECW

From what I remember wcw was kinda poopy up until they started the original nwo and made it a little more "real". Granted I didnt watch it in the very early 90's, only from late 94 early 95 and then on until the end of it when it got poopy again.

I dont think WCW was ever poopy (till Russo got there) WCW was like the only wreslting company where every wrestlers name didn't start with the word "the". In other words everyone was not a cartoon character. WCW was more substance over style I'm not saying That WCW/NWA didn't have characters But the show had alot more integrity then WWE does now. I'd sell a million souls to get back Bischoff's WCW.

Glacier, or how about that stormtrooper wearing tugboat :shock:

by **Mighty Scorponok** » Thu May 31, 2007 4:02 pm

Yupp, agree with Phategod on that one....

News Credits: 2 · by **Phategod1** » Thu May 31, 2007 7:07 pm

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Glacier, or how about that stormtrooper wearing tugboat :shock:

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I remember Glacier the Sub Zero rip-off but the other guy are you talking about Vader because he was sawesome I'd never seen a 300+ lbs man do a moonsault before that.

News Credits: 1 · by **Venomous Prime** » Thu May 31, 2007 7:20 pm

Phategod1 wrote:
Chris wrote:
Glacier, or how about that stormtrooper wearing tugboat

I remember Glacier the Sub Zero rip-off but the other guy are you talking about Vader because he was sawesome I'd never seen a 300+ lbs man do a moonsault before that.

Hugh Morrus did it better

No Laughing Matter FTW!!

News Credits: 11 · by **Robinson** » Thu May 31, 2007 7:26 pm

Phategod1 wrote:I remember Glacier the Sub Zero rip-off but the other guy are you talking about Vader because he was sawesome I'd never seen a 300+ lbs man do a moonsault before that.

No, not vader. His name is The Shockmaster. I couldnt remember it earlier.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvgHCtjXbAI

by **The Paragon of Virtue** » Thu May 31, 2007 7:39 pm

Phategod1 wrote:the other guy are you talking about Vader because he was sawesome I'd never seen a 300+ lbs man do a moonsault before that.

Vader is the greatest big man in the history of wrestling. Too bad Hogan's ego had to kill his WCW career. Why build up Vader is a viable threat when Hogan can just make Vader and everyone who has ever lost to him look like nothing by getting up immediately after a Vader High-Angle Powerbomb? :roll: