The Energon Pub

[John Talbain]

Prog Doom Metal FTW

[John Talbain]

Oh yeah and

More influences on me are

Testament
Yngwie J. Malmsteen
Michael Angelo Batio
Carcass
Iron Maiden
Judas Priest
Krokus
Vanessa Carlton
Fiona Apple
Joss Stone
The younger Britney Spears era
Motorhead
Venom
Girlschool
Saxon (denim and leather)
Blitzkrieg
The Misfits
The Clash
Def Leppard's Pyromania
Slayer (only some of their faster CD's)
Racer X (Street Lethal)
AC/DC
The Old Metallica, before Load
Alice Cooper
Skid Row
Vixen
W.A.S.P.
In Flames ( Clay Man )

[prowl123]

Avenged Sevenfold and Slipknot are what brought my band together.

[Sinnertwin]

Ive always found the connection between music and the human psyche fascinating.

[Burn]

Ive always found the connection between music and the human psyche fascinating.

To me it's always been obvious. Examples are early outings from an Australian group called The Whitlams. Their first hit song was depressing. Yet a few albums later after much success the songs were more upbeat and happy.

Linkin Park is another example, their early stuff was clearly disgruntled. Now they're just grown up Beibers.

[John Talbain]

I got into David Bowie today.

I was in the car listening to his song from 1982's movie Cat People and the Breakfast Club.

It's about the only song i like from him.

Don't you, forget about me.

[Burn]

Seriously, I don't know if you're a new breed of spambot or just weird.

You "got into" David Bowie but you only like one song? Last I checked if you were "into" something you really liked them.

[Sinnertwin]

Ive always found the connection between music and the human psyche fascinating.

To me it's always been obvious. Examples are early outings from an Australian group called The Whitlams. Their first hit song was depressing. Yet a few albums later after much success the songs were more upbeat and happy.

Linkin Park is another example, their early stuff was clearly disgruntled. Now they're just grown up Beibers.

Love No Aphrodisiac. Hard to believe it was 15 years ago

On the subject of musical change. How much of that do you think is personal development, attempting a demographic crossover, direction from the music company etc? Then There are bands that have been doing the same thing for a long time with continued success.

[Burn]

Direction from music company - Manufactured pop aimed at the teenage female demographic (e.g. OneDirection and Bieber).

Demographic crossover - Best example would be Madonna. She's tried to change with the times to remain "fresh". What she fails to realise though is she's a wrinkly old woman trying to hold on to her glory days and not be surpassed by the likes of Lady Gaga.

Speaking of ... Gaga is a mystery. Some would say she's manufactured, I just think she's a marketing genius.

Personal development - I think there's a lot out there. Take Bon Jovi for example, their early stuff was bright, energetic, new stuff, while it's very much Bon Jovi, you can feel it's older, wiser, and a little more grown up.

Ones that have stayed the same - Best example, AC/DC. Never changed, never will. Still big.

[First-Aid]

Gaga is a marketing genius, but damned if she just didn't steal Madonna's schtick and update it. I half expect her to make a picture book of nudes and call it "Intercourse". I truly wish she'd just go away. Manufactured music is the normal anymore, which is sad. Gone are the days of true musicians who write their own stuff, perform it themselves, and have the talent and knowledge to excel at both. I don't know if you will ever see anyone win the triumvirate of music awards: a Grammy, Tony, and an Oscar. I believe there are only two or three artists who have ever done that; I know Elton John and Phil Collins did it, and I'm pretty sure Billy Joel did it as well but not 100% positive. You just don't see people with that talent anymore. Wait, let me correct that: you SEE people with that talent, they just do not fit in with what the music marketing people believe would be successful anymore. "American Idol" and those other shows make my point. Reality show, my ass. If it was a reality show, why do they need writers and how are the cameras ALWAYS exactly where they need to be? I've been to a couple AI tryouts and they turn people away that are WAY more talented than the ones they pick, but either aren't attractive enough or just don't fit into the "pop music" mold. It's truly sad. I believe that the Rolling Stones would not have ever made it in today's music world.

[First-Aid]

Gaga is a marketing genius, but damned if she just didn't steal Madonna's schtick and update it. I half expect her to make a picture book of nudes and call it "Intercourse". I truly wish she'd just go away. Manufactured music is the normal anymore, which is sad. Gone are the days of true musicians who write their own stuff, perform it themselves, and have the talent and knowledge to excel at both. I don't know if you will ever see anyone win the triumvirate of music awards: a Grammy, Tony, and an Oscar. I believe there are only two or three artists who have ever done that; I know Elton John and Phil Collins did it, and I'm pretty sure Billy Joel did it as well but not 100% positive. You just don't see people with that talent anymore. Wait, let me correct that: you SEE people with that talent, they just do not fit in with what the music marketing people believe would be successful anymore. "American Idol" and those other shows make my point. Reality show, my ass. If it was a reality show, why do they need writers and how are the cameras ALWAYS exactly where they need to be? I've been to a couple AI tryouts and they turn people away that are WAY more talented than the ones they pick, but either aren't attractive enough or just don't fit into the "pop music" mold. It's truly sad. I believe that the Rolling Stones would not have ever made it in today's music world.

[Burn]

You're clearly not looking in the right places. There are plenty of artists out there who write and perform their own stuff (on real instruments and don't need computer enhancements).

Hell, Australia has an entire digital radio station dedicated to unsigned artists. (Yes, some of them need their computer enhancements unfortunately)

[John Talbain]

Yeah i guess I'm kinda weird.

Like Alice Cooper and

Fiona Apple.

[John Talbain]

Oh yeah and Pat Benatar still owns the rolling stones.

I'm no spam bot but I love, " You're love is like a tidal wave "

[Burn]

Please learn to use the "edit" button instead of just adding consecutive posts barely 2 minutes apart.

[BeastProwl]

Me and my cousin were just having a conversation about this. In the end, it boiled down to "were the hell did dubstep come from, and why is it so popular?' Its just random, fluctuating sounds. Why do people like so much?

[Burn]

Dance clubs. The bass in infectious.

When I go to the gym I have to turn my iPod up most times to drown out some of the rap/heavy bass dance stuff the muscle heads have playing through the system.

[BeastProwl]

I guess after a day of pumping iron, you need a back wub.

terrible I know.

[John Talbain]

I have a whole album of 12 songs written in theory.

I just need to record it at guitar center.

[Sinnertwin]

DP

[Sinnertwin]

I have a whole album of 12 songs written in theory.
I just need to record it at guitar center.

In theory or On theory?

[John Talbain]

Well, I'm writing it on my mind.

I plan on calling my 12 song album,

"Muhammed Illusion"

[Burn]

So I skipped the jazz band practice last night. Used the excuse that I was tired.

I was called a wimp.

Whatever.

[Sinnertwin]

Don't do it to yourself any longer, B.

[First-Aid]

Seriously? Asswipes. TIme to find a group that you can have FUN with.