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ZeroWolf wrote:To be fair, kids will make that war be far more interesting then whatever fiction is used to justify the toy being in the line. Toys first remember.

Absolutely. I did much the same with my BW toys back in the day. I used to hold out hope that my favourite toys would debut in the show... Waiting each new episode for the cast to double, triple. Not really knowing the logistical realities behind the limited cast, during my formative years.

As for the other point, a TF line HasTak would never make... one without a Megatron or Prime

Ah there wasn't a prime or Megatron in the power core Combiners line and I think Universe 2.0 didn't have a prime or megs in either As Hasbro thought they'd covered those two in Classics.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Interesting pitch, aside from the overuse of Megatron & Prime*

Optimus and Megs in each chapter is unavoidable because those two are line sellers. But at least, they would be COMPLETELY different from each other. Also, it would be interesting to see the leaders fight among themselves to see who is the "true" leader... Especially for the Optimusses.
Oh, and to make things more interesting, even if the toys are not part of the line, the Movieverse could be in as well. Now let's see how the toon Optimusses would react toward the he pure savage BRUTALITY of Movie Optimus.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Interesting pitch, aside from the overuse of Megatron & Prime*

Optimus and Megs in each chapter is unavoidable because those two are line sellers. But at least, they would be COMPLETELY different from each other. Also, it would be interesting to see the leaders fight among themselves to see who is the "true" leader... Especially for the Optimusses.

As I said, the asterisk for that being it isn't something "HasTak would NEVER make" ala the topic of thread.

I'm sure there are some fans, somewhere, that would love an entire line of a Prime or Megs figure. With various redecos, given the names of "Starscream", "Bumblebee" etc

Yeah, an entire line without the Big Four, meaning Optimus Prime, Megatron, Bumblebee, and Starscream is something HasTak will never make.

Well we are waiting out the clock for bee to appear in War for Cybertron.

ZeroWolf wrote:Well we are waiting out the clock for bee to appear in War for Cybertron.

Cynically, I do think the reason he hasn't popped up yet is because:

(A) They didn't want to make this, for SIEGE:



(B) Trying to flog this Thing:




Without there being a lower price point alternative, via Earthrise.

Yeah, that's a good point. Since I'm a bit bored, I'm just gonna post a laundry list of my TF requests:
Deluxe TR Hosehead from Hardhead
Deluxe Loudmouth from Blurr
Deluxe Nightbeat from Getaway
Deluxe Fangry
Deluxe Horri-Bull
Deluxe Squeezeplay
Leader Deszaras/Prime Predaking/TM2 Megatron/RiD ‘01 Gigatron
Leader Evolution Saber/Star Saber
Crane Armor RiD Grimlock
CW Ultra Bee
Warrior Springload, Groundpounder, Underbite, Clampdown, Saberhorn, Glowstrike, Clawtrap, Overload, show-accurate Steeljaw, Vertebreak, Kickback, Filch, Crazybolt.
Leader Class Tigerhawk
All the remaining Targetmasters
Deluxe Prime blue Smokescreen
Deluxe Prime Arcee
Deluxe Prime Knock Out
Deluxe Prime Soundwave
The entire BW show cast
CHUG Fuzors, like Torca and Sky Shadow
The Omnibots
Road Rage
Retries of Airachnid and Thunderblast
Deluxe Turbomasters and Predators
Voyager Countdown, Thunderclash, and Skyquake
Animated S4 Powermaster Sentinel
Animated S4 Powermaster Optimus
Animated S4 Blackarachnia
Animated S4 Marauder Megatron
Cyberverse Deluxe Windblade, Cheetor, Soundwave, Shadowstriker, Perceptor, Dead End, Whirl, Wildwheel, Chromia, Lockdown, Alphastrike, Starscream, Wheeljack, Bludgeon
Titan-Class Necrotitan, Navitas, Chela, Caminus, Iaconus, Croaton, SOTW Tidal Wave
Proper IDW Nautica, Chromedome, Megs, the DJD, and Rodimus
Warrior Class Rescue Bots cast
And that's all I can think of for now!

ZeroWolf wrote:Well we are waiting out the clock for bee to appear in War for Cybertron.

I should have said "any of" the Big Four.

But yeah, no UFO Bee in Siege was disappointing.
But I'm sure a deluxe Bee is inevitable for the last chapter of the current trilogy. Ironically as a retool/repaint of ER Cliffjumper.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:As for the other point, a TF line HasTak would never make... one without a Megatron or Prime

Hot take, but I don't think part three of WFC will have a new Megatron. Maybe a Walmart redco of ER Megs or something (Walmart does seem to love their Megs redcos), but not a new one in the main line. I think his place will be taken by a new Galvatron.

Rodimus and Galvatron Should be the leaders of a "Future" based chapter of any G1 based Transformers story. That's who they are, after all. The faction leaders of Tomorrow.
Whether that actually happens or not...

You know, I think Bumblebee should take the Matrix, for all the love he gets.
Introducing... Insectus Prime!
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/7f/23/66 ... 14fc20.jpg
Screw Hot Rod, I want 'Bee, Springer, Star Saber or Jetfire to take the matrix!

Tigerhawk7109 wrote:You know, I think Bumblebee should take the Matrix, for all the love he gets.
Introducing... Insectus Prime!

Screw Hot Rod, I want 'Bee, Springer, Star Saber or Jetfire to take the matrix!

Do WANT!

I wonder how's his altmode?

Looks like it would be an off roader maybe. Also you don't need the matrix to be the leader in Japanese continuity. Fortress Maximus, God Ginrai, Star Saber and Dai-Atlas all were supreme leaders of the Autobots without the matrix.

You know what I still want and Flame Toys sort of gave but its not the same? Autobot Megatron, I know Combiner Wars Megs was supposed to be a nod to it, but I want a better transforming figure. Heck if Hasbro wanted to be really lazy. Just redeco Siege Megatron. Just add some tooling to the fusion cannon so that it opens up to reveal med kits and there you go, a passable attempt at Lost Light Megatron (presumably before he gave himself over to the Cybertronian council so they could execute him. Or at least one of the versions of him)

3P made a young "pit fighting" miner Megatron. It's awesome but I want HASTAK to make an official version. As you say, a Select heavy retool/repaint of the Earthrise figure may do the trick.

-Kanrabat- wrote:3P made a young "pit fighting" miner Megatron. It's awesome but I want HASTAK to make an official version. As you say, a Select heavy retool/repaint of the Earthrise figure may do the trick.

Latebrus-K already did a custom of Miner Megatron. You can see it here: a-tale-of-two-megatrons-t114201.php
And yeah, I really want a proper Autobot Megs. That could also work from the extremely versatile Siege tooling.

@Tigerhawk: Hosehead from Hardhead? What sense does that make? Wouldn't you rather have the 1988 Headmasters done properly?

-Kanrabat- wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Well we are waiting out the clock for bee to appear in War for Cybertron.

I should have said "any of" the Big Four.

But yeah, no UFO Bee in Siege was disappointing.

Also completely unsurprising because of the shackles of the cartoon robot modes.

-Kanrabat- wrote:But I'm sure a deluxe Bee is inevitable for the last chapter of the current trilogy. Ironically as a retool/repaint of ER Cliffjumper.

Wrong! Hasbro has said CJ won't be redecoed/retooled into Bumblebee.

Now now, Bee could have been a shell former via a legend sized Bee action master that crouches down and the hover car alt mode shell placed on top. Genius of that take would be that he could also stand atop the shell and ride it like a hover board, like people were doing with Siege Starscream in detaching him from the kibble

We all know the one they'll REALLY never make though: A TF nobody complains about #cheapshot

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:We all know the one they'll REALLY never make though: A TF nobody complains about #cheapshot

So...Masterpiece Beast Wars Injector?

Skritz wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:We all know the one they'll REALLY never make though: A TF nobody complains about #cheapshot

So...Masterpiece Beast Wars Injector?

I'm not into Beast Wars MP at all.
But for a MP Injector? Seriously, I'd genuinely preorder that! He's my favorite Beast Wars figure.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Skritz wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:We all know the one they'll REALLY never make though: A TF nobody complains about #cheapshot

So...Masterpiece Beast Wars Injector?

I'm not into Beast Wars MP at all.
But for a MP Injector? Seriously, I'd genuinely preorder that! He's my favorite Beast Wars figure.

Damn it Kanrabat, I was trying to make a joke about 'a figure nobody would ever want' and you HAD to be a **** hipster!

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:But I'm sure a deluxe Bee is inevitable for the last chapter of the current trilogy. Ironically as a retool/repaint of ER Cliffjumper.

Wrong! Hasbro has said CJ won't be redecoed/retooled into Bumblebee.

IIRC, Hasbro never said that Bumblebee wouldn't be made from that mold, they just said it was designed with Cliffjumper first in mind. They might have said that Bee "isn't upcoming" or something like that, but that doesn't necessarily mean it won't happen, particularly in the next line. Or maybe I'm just misremembering.

Something else we're not going to get: The generic TF of whom two are seen on TR Repugnus' box, the one that looks sorta like a mashup of TR Quake and Full-Tilt (However, I will be trying to develop a papercraft kit based on that one, because it's a cool design that I think would make a good troop-builder for people).

Oh, and here's a pipe-dream I was reminded of by another thread: Armada Tidal Wave redecoed in blue and white, with his gun turrets and the three circles on his head crest painted gold. Because his robot mode looks like a jacketed naval officer (the turrets, which end up on his chest, are the jacket buttons).

Skritz wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Skritz wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:We all know the one they'll REALLY never make though: A TF nobody complains about #cheapshot

So...Masterpiece Beast Wars Injector?

I'm not into Beast Wars MP at all.
But for a MP Injector? Seriously, I'd genuinely preorder that! He's my favorite Beast Wars figure.

Damn it Kanrabat, I was trying to make a joke about 'a figure nobody would ever want' and you HAD to be a **** hipster!

Injector is the ugliest Transformers ever... And I LOVE it! There's a charm to it that others don't have.
I wasn't around in TF collecting when Injector was that infamous shelf-warmer. So I never grew to hate the guy.

Also, a wasp-pirhana, that's one nasty and deadly combo right here! How come this can't be cool?

One thing for sure though. HASTAK will never make at least a Generations update of BW Injector.